i have sent this to MSNBC, hopefully it will be covered...people in government should be prosecuted and put in jail for this...this is treason.

Hi, I just wanted you to know I am here, I'm reading, I'm watching, and I am horrified. S&F. Good work.

Originally posted by nunya13

Originally posted by OmegaPoint

... love for one's country which is not part of one's love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship."
~ Erich Fromm, American psychologist

What a beautiful quote and I do think there are a lot of people with this warped view of patriotism. These are the same people who think that sacrificing rights for safety is okay. That killing and torturing for safety is acceptable.

Where's the humanity?

I bet some of the would reply, "To hell with humanity! I want to be safe!"

That's just my assumption though.

I love my country but I'm not willing to sacrifice my integrity/morality/humanity or hers for some twisted sense of security and feeling of being the most powerful nation in the world.

I'd rather we be the weakest if it meant we at least had our integrity and strong sense of moral values to be proud of.

[edit on 26-8-2009 by nunya13]

I'm glad that there are others who understand that Patriotism, itself, is a trap to abandon humanity. I can be proud of my country, but that doesn't mean beating up someone who claims the US was helping the coup in Honduras to oust an actual reformer.

People that can start a war for resources in Iraq -- and harm those people, could do such a thing here. The only difference is opportunity, and a flimsy veil of rationalization.

What you would do to the least, you would do to anyone. Iraqis are not 2/3rds of a person.

I remember, along the trail of rationalizations, that we were fighting for Iraqi liberty, or Democracy. It quickly became spiteful, as people here felt like this notion was rejected by all the civil wars there. Then the "easy task" was in hind sight -- obviously, these people cannot be at peace, they've been at each other's throats for centuries.

I was actually for the war at first -- not that I believed the excuses. But I realized that the Iraqis could do better, and believed some of the hype. But "success" was never intended for Democracy there -- the people perpetrating the war didn't believe in Democracy here. They betrayed that nation's people repeatedly -- and then betrayed them again. Likely, a civil war was the goal, as this put pressure on the government to accept the Oil deals that were being offered.

I just started reading this and thought that this is pretty damning information that needs to get out. So I decided I would DIGG this.

I can't. Why is there no link to DIGG? Or is my computer being a biotch again? That happens regularly so I wouldn't be surprised.

Now I will go watch the videos and see what the real story is. Can't get it from reading just two posts.

One more piece of info from the PDF file. Here she confirms what we all already knew to be true regarding getting dirt on everyone...officially called the 'hooking period'.

I was trained as a language specialist by my agent for -- to find personal
information, and one of the things that we was taught in the FBI -- everyone was taught in the counterintelligence -- that the target U.S. persons, whether they are in Congress or executive branch or whatever, first go by foreign entities to what they refer to as hooking period, and it was very common; it's a very common way of trying to find vulnerability, and that is sexual, financial, any other kinds of greeds, and it was -- it was done a lot, was being done a lot, and in some cases certain people from Pentagon would send a list of individuals with access to sensitive data, whether weapons technology or nuclear technology, and this information would include all their sexual preference, how much they owed on their homes, if they have gambling issues, and the State Department, high level State Department person would provide it to these foreign operatives, and those foreign operatives then would go and hook those Pentagon people, whether they were at RAND or some other Air Force base.

And then the hooking period would take some times. Sometimes it takes months, sometimes one year. ...

Everyone does it to everyone. I think there is not one person in power anywhere in the world that can't be had for the right price.

This is sickening. How can there be hope? We need some guys in 'white hats'. Hmmm, probably never were any guys in white hats.

I just don't know what more can be done concerning 9/11 truth. I have marched in Dallas, passed out informative DVD's, promoted and voiced my opinion and the facts that are indeniable over and over.

Any further and I could charged with some obscure Federal crime and be arrested.

Someone Please tell me...WHAT MORE CAN WE DO?

The evidence is overwhelming just like the links to the branch-davidian and Oklahoma City bombing were 10 almost 20 years ago. The goal was to polarize the event in the minds of the majority and it has been successful.

I am at a loss.

I've watched the first video. Starred and flagged this thread. Most of my family and friends are too busy with 'real life' to watch, and they don't want to know, anyway. If Turkey can get their hooks into our FBI and congressmen, there is no doubt that, as someone else stated, countries like Russia and China can do even more. Thanks for getting this out to us! When I tried to go into her blog, my computer hung up, and I had to reboot. Maybe there were too many in there at once, or maybe all this attention is alarming the corruptocrats and they are counter-attacking.

Originally posted by harrytuttle
Now, she finally speaks out. (And guess what happens the day her testimony is released? Ted Kennedy dies unexpectedly. Go figure.)

Could you be any more paranoid?

Videos two and three are not working any longer,hope somebody downloaded them they may be gone. I'd like to see them doing what I can to get this video out.

Edit Nevermind, refreshed the page and they work now. Star and flag for the op.

[edit on 8/26/09 by nickoli]

Well, I'm a firm believer in the whole "government sponsored" 9-11 theories. Not to be mean, but anybody who has read the abundant amounts of information pertaining to the massive cover ups and still thinks the government had nothing to do with 9-11 has got to be a "simpleton".
The problem I see for those of us who KNOW the government did it is that I honestly don't think we can expect any recourse by taking "legal" means.....Let's face it........congress is crooked as hell, the executive branch is full of crap, and the judicial branch is on the payroll !! You will not get any justice by attempting to use the conventional means as most know it. The proof has presented itself time and time again..........they will consistently stone-wall investigations, lie, kill, etc. Too many "higher ups" have too much at stake in this.
Now theoretically speaking mind you, the best results would actually come from having some type of organizational resistance to the corrupt authorities. Perhaps doing exactly what OUR government does.........train some special ops type individuals who would be willing to "strike" at those corrupt individuals who have circumvented the laws of this country. People tend to change their tunes when they know there is accountability, ya know. Just a hypothetical though. I wouldn't condone this type of thing.......theoretically. Peace.

According to her blog, she is also a Ron Paul fan.

If I knew how to put this on sites I would. I have no idea how to do this. I would love to show this to many people I know who tell me I am making all this up. Although I bet a couple of them will never see what is really going on and just continue to ignore what they never look into and only criticize those who do.
S&F

Missing Bi-Sexual Congresswomen.

She said she lived close to where they are in the vid. It is in Ohio as where the case is and they have the discussion in the beginning of the vid about this.

The only one in Ohio or Indiana that is a Congresswoman and still in office is (Sorry, I removed this as we could not prove it)

Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think so.

[edit on 26-8-2009 by j2000]