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Senator Ted Kennedy has died of Brain cancer at age 77

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posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Rephaim
For a forum that the users proclaim knowledge unsurpassed anywhere on the net...


Speaking of "proclaiming knowledge", did you steal this from CraigsList? Wouldn't it be funny if plagiarism was on the list that you copied from another site?


:shk:

So... do you have an original thought about him?

[edit on 26-8-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]


HAHAHAHAHA PWND/BUSTED

sorry for this post, but it shows the true low that some will step to look right, even when evidence is contradictory to your beliefs...




posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 03:55 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Speaking of "proclaiming knowledge", did you steal this from CraigsList? Wouldn't it be funny if plagiarism was on the list that you copied from another site?


But is that list of "accomplishments" true? That's the real question.

From what I know about Teddy, they pretty much are right on target.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:08 PM
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A Great Senator, a respected leader of his party, he will be missed. He was willing at times to reach across the aisle to get legislation passed and just as willing to stand up for his beliefs. America is slightly lessened by his passing.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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reply to post by Doc Velocity
 

It's not intent.

He didn't intend to kill her. It would only be murder if he had purposely driven the car off the bridge to kill her. He didn't.

He was drunk, and yes, he left her, for which he is wrong, but don't place something on him of which justice speaks of.

It states that for one to commit murder, you must have intent to kill the person.

He was wrong for leaving, but he didn't murder her.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic

Originally posted by Rephaim
For a forum that the users proclaim knowledge unsurpassed anywhere on the net...


Speaking of "proclaiming knowledge", did you steal this from CraigsList? Wouldn't it be funny if plagiarism was on the list that you copied from another site?


:shk:

So... do you have an original thought about him?


Plagiarism? That's a stretch isn't it? He never proclaimed this was his original work... a forum post.. Knowledge is the passing of thoughts, ideas and knowings of all things between one another.

You can't plagiarize knowledge.

What did you want him to say? Source Craigslist.. ? Would you feel better then?

For all you know, he could be the craigslist poster, but that's far beside the point.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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My religion forbids me from passing judgement on a person. That is God's right and I will not attempt to usurp it. Like many of the politicians today, I didn't want him dead. I just wanted him to GO AWAY. Brain cancer is a terrible way to go and is not any type of demise one should wish on a person.

That being said, this drunken slug of a man was responsible for a great many factors that have utterly destroyed this country. He should have gone to jail for what he did to Mary Jo...manslaughter, at the very least. I am glad his seat was vacated.

Only 543 more bloodsucking leeches to go! (excluding Ron Paul)



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by jerico65
But is that list of "accomplishments" true?


I have no idea. And it really doesn't matter to me. But I don't consider the Craigslist personals a credible source of information.




That's the real question.


MY real question was did the poster have an original thought on the subject of Ted Kennedy.


Originally posted by SyphonX
Plagiarism? That's a stretch isn't it? He never proclaimed this was his original work...


It's typed without a source and without external tags. Maybe ATS has relaxed their rules on this since I was here last, but it LOOKS like he was trying to pass it off as his own thoughts.

Posting Work Written by Others **ALL MEMBERS READ**

It's no big deal, I just have a thing for people "cheating".



1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended.. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat...


Source

It's as simple as that.


[edit on 26-8-2009 by Benevolent Heretic]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Was this thread made to honor the passing of one of our nations most loyal public service workers, or as an outlet to start another hate spewing tirade from republicans?

I deeply resent it.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:27 PM
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AP Timeline:
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I thought it was an interesting read on Kennedy's life. Keep in mind that the finer details are missing.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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And here we go!

I love how Ron Paul is the one politician many of you love on here, and then state that every other politician is bad.

Don't you think Ron's made a lot of mistakes?

No one on here ever talks about Ron Paul's racism! - Ron Paul: Newsletter

Or how about this: Ron Paul: Racism

[edit on 26/8/09 by Mak Manto]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by Mak Manto
It's not intent....[American Justice] states that for one to commit murder, you must have intent to kill the person.


No, that's not quite true. Let's say that you rob a convenience store at gunpoint, and an elderly customer nearby suffers a fatal heart attack from the excitement of the robbery. You're apprehended by police a short time later.

You just committed murder, regardless of your intent.

Or let's say that you and your buddy arm yourselves and go burglarize a house; but, in perpetrating the crime, the homeowner steps out with a shotgun and blows away your buddy. You surrender yourself to police shortly thereafter.

You just committed murder, regardless of your intent.

Those are just a couple of real-life examples of how the Law addresses inadvertent death during the commission of a crime. "Intent" has nothing to do with either of these cases, except that you knew you were doing wrong and somebody died because of it.

Does not matter that you didn't intend for anyone to die. It's still called murder, and it's even been called capital murder in a few similar cases.

In Senator Ted Kennedy's case, he demonstrated (in postponing for 10 hours bringing police to the scene) that he knew he was doing wrong, and Mary Jo Kopechne died because of his actions.

If this was any other John Q. Public, the guy would be swiftly tried and probably convicted for murder, and he'd do time in a penitentiary.

In Kennedy's case, however, he spent his 10 hours making phone calls to everyone except the police. I'm guessing he made at least one call to his acquaintances in the Justice Department, who pushed a few buttons and got Kennedy off the hook.

So, officially, Kennedy was never charged with murder nor even wrongful death — But any honest observer knows that's what should have happened in a just world.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 8/26/2009 by Doc Velocity]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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I must admit that I'm quite sad at the moment. Not just at that the passing of Senator Kennedy, but sad at the overwhelming vitriol that has been laid forth as an opinion of a fellow human.

It says an awful lot about what we have become as a society. We are all welcome to our opinions and religious and political beliefs, but there are times when some respect is due, if only through silence until others have had a chance to grieve if that is their want. But then again, the anonymous nature of posting on boards like ATS probably gives license to voice statements that we would hardly ever utter out loud.

I know my mother taught me that if you don't have something positive to say...keep quiet. I wonder what the rest of our obituaries will sound like.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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I met the man once, large statured in both size and life...R.I.P. Mr Senator, as I am from Massachusetts, and R.I.P. Teddy, the man, the father, the husband, the human being. Put aside mindless cheap shots for a while and say a prayer for him.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Busted, nope. Everything in that list is true. Notice you have to kill the messenger rather than argue the message itself. Typical of Left wing politics.
Let's face it, the man was scum!

This forum has had very interesting stories. Especially about life after death!
The common theme usually is how we all have a life review and that we experience the wrongs felt by us perpetrated on others. Do you things he will feel all the deaths caused by abortion? The Death of that young girl who drowned? The death of all those Vietnam Serviceman?

Just saying.....



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by jsobecky
 


Was this thread made to honor the passing of one of our nations most loyal public service workers, or as an outlet to start another hate spewing tirade from republicans?

I deeply resent it.


I'm not quite sure what, or who, you resent, but my intentions for starting this thread have been plainy and clearly stated.

You'll just have to examine the entire thread, if you're interested in my intentions.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 05:48 PM
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The fact is that when a person dies they are judged on what they did in life. This applies to everyone and will hold true for me as much as for you. If you lived a good life and treated your fellow humans well, you will be remebered fondly by those who know you. If you had any misdeeds, these will be noted by those who know you as well. This is your real life review. To allow someone to be remembered only for the good they did and not recognize the bad is to be ignorant to his life as a whole.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I have no idea. And it really doesn't matter to me. But I don't consider the Craigslist personals a credible source of information.


How about this? Is this a better source?

www.nndb.com...



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:06 PM
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Hang on. I just thought of something.

Obama visits Hawaii, his grandmother dies.

Obama visits Martha's Vineyard, Teddy dies.

Hmmmmm.....I'm seeing a pattern here. I wonder if they checked Teddy for pillow marks?



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:09 PM
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I've been coming to ATS for more than 5 years now, and in the past 6-9 months the level of hatred, immaturity, vitriol, and so on has become ridiculous. None of us knew Ted Kennedy personally. Who are any of you to presume to know what's in a man's heart? The arrogance is appaulling. All of people here delighting over the thought of him burning in hell, and all the murderer, evil man comments. You don't know a thing about this person. You don't know if he spent his life agonizing over that car accident. You don't know if he sought redemption, or sought forgiveness. And from what I do know about the Kennedy's, they were the ones advocating for the people. They were the ones warning us of secret societies. They were the ones trying to prevent our soldiers from being killed in phony wars. What gives any of you the right to make judgments against him, or any of us for that matter? I am disgusted by the partisan rhetoric that we are having to listen to day in and day out since the Republican Party imploded. And I voted for Ron Paul btw. So this isn't about me protecting my "messiah" or being a brownshirt. This man isn't even dead a day and all I see here, Drudge, and just about any site with comments sections is one sophmoric comment after another. I'm not even going to ask if any of you have any decency because it's obvious that none of you do.
As an Idependent, I look at the back and forth on all the different politcal discussions and all I see is a load of Republicans that cannot stand the fact that they lost. I see no more debates, just a bunch of broken record labeling and name calling parroted from some disc jockey they heard on the way to work. I see people that take time out of their day to intentionally inflict harm on a dead persons loved ones who are in mourning. You have become no better than the Westboro Church people. The only ones tearing our country apart seem to be The Republicans, they are the sore losers, terrified now that THEY are the minorities. Trying to use every single event to rant on their phony outrage. Calling everyone who's not Republican a socialist, fascist, communist, etc. And doing everything they can to make everyone as miserable as them.
I have never been in favor of rounding up Americans because of political beliefs. But as I see more and more of these fake patriots going on about watering trees with blood and advocating Civil War, I'm beginning to feel like these people really are hoping they get the chance to run down the streets with their assault rifles shooting all their non-conservative neighbors. Then stand over the bodies while they pat themselves on the back for sending another one to the fires of hell because they were evil socialists, communists *Insert label de jour*. When these people are threatening civil war for Health Care, or Socialism, or Bank Bailouts, or because KISS is doing another tour (YEA!) they are basically threatening to harm or kill American Citizens if they don't get their way. They are by definition Terrorists and should be treated as such.
As far as Ted Kennedy dying. I know more about his brothers than him. I know he had personal failures in life, like me. I know he had professional failures, like me. He loved his country, like me. He and his family try to make the world a better place, like me. And I hope that he finds redemption, like me. And all of you.

My God, where have my Countrymen gone?



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:19 PM
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I think people are pissed off at Teddy is because of the crap he's pulled and gotten away with in his lifetime. The man was made of Teflon.

Making mistakes in life is just part of the deal. You make a mistake, you pay for it, you drive on. Simple.

Teddy made mistakes, had someone cover them up, then kept right on making more.

He did keep things interesting, tho!



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