Massachusetts Senate pass bill 2028: Quarantine or $1000 a day fine for refusing the vaccine , page 13


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reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 12:42 AM by DieterDengler
Originally posted by spikey
reply to post by marg6043


It's classic diversionary tactics.

This is NOT a conspiracy, this IS reality now.

People have been talking of this kind of scenario for a long time, and the modus operandi so far, hasn't missed a step with the consensus.

Don't the students get involved with exposing and protesting shady government practices anymore? They have the right to protest in Mass i assume? Or has that been taken away too?


The students stopped protesting because the new face of the New World Order is black. They have been trained from birth to not protest against a black person because that would make them appear to be racist to other people their age.

I would go one step further and surmise that this is the real reason that BO was given the Presidency... To eliminate the protests from the left.

The mainstream and the right they never had to worry about, the current thing they never expected, it was the radical left they needed to silence.

The left, and students, who are primarily left, were on the edge of a revolution before the last election. If any white person were given the Presidency we would already have had a revolution, but by taking the same NWO and putting a black face on it - the youth wouldn't dare to even protest because they wouldn't want to be called a racist. A very clever move.


reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 12:59 AM by TruthParadox
reply to post by warrenb


Maybe (just maybe) this is to limit an otherwise rampant pandemic?
If you're walking around with swine flu (or anything else for that matter), you're not just hurting yourself.
You're potentially hurting anyone you come in contact with.
And that, believe it or not, SHOULD be illegal.

Sure, it could also be a perfectly orchestrated government conspiracy, in which the sheer amount of people who would have to know and yet say nothing would require nothing less.
Or, it could simply be a bill which could potentially save millions of lives.

Simply stating that it ABSOLUTELY IS the first, without evidence of such, is (in my opinion at least) narrow minded.


reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 01:09 AM by amazing
reply to post by TruthParadox


There is no proof that this swine flu is any more a pandemic then regular flu. about as many will get it and about as many will die. The regular flu isn't a forced vaccination though...why this one.


reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 01:15 AM by DieterDengler
Originally posted by TruthParadox
reply to post by warrenb


Maybe (just maybe) this is to limit an otherwise rampant pandemic?
If you're walking around with swine flu (or anything else for that matter), you're not just hurting yourself.
You're potentially hurting anyone you come in contact with.
And that, believe it or not, SHOULD be illegal.

Sure, it could also be a perfectly orchestrated government conspiracy, in which the sheer amount of people who would have to know and yet say nothing would require nothing less.
Or, it could simply be a bill which could potentially save millions of lives.

Simply stating that it ABSOLUTELY IS the first, without evidence of such, is (in my opinion at least) narrow minded.


How could a pandemic get here if they really did not want it? They could easily stop all border entries and extraterritorial aircraft. Ships could be quarantined etc.

I simply do not believe that David Rockefeller and friends care so much for me that they will move Heaven and Earth to make sure I get a flu shot.


reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 01:49 AM by JipStix
reply to post by TruthParadox


Even if there is a risk of it becoming a pandemic... tell me again why I would allow someone to inject me with a vaccine containing Thimerosal (Mercury) and Squalene?

I'll take my chances not getting vaccinated, it's far less dangerous than what's in the vaccine. Maybe I'll get swine flu, but the chance that it will be fatal is so low that it doesn't concern me.

Edit: Also, do you realize that by the time they have fully developed the vaccine and deployed it the virus will have likely slightly mutated, therefore rendering the vaccine utterly useless. This happens every time they try to make a flu vaccine, as in 1918 and 1976. The vaccine ends up doing basically nothing in preventing the virus and the vaccine ITSELF ends up killing more people than the flu does.

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reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 02:48 AM by TruthParadox
reply to post by JipStix


You may be right.
I'm just tired of people completely ignoring the possibility that things may in fact be what they appear to be on the surface.
To simply accept a vaccine is foolish.
But to simply deny it is foolish as well.
We don't even know what potential threat we could be dealing with, yet many in this thread have said there's no way in Hell they would take a vaccine.


reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 04:26 AM by Sacreligion
I don't necessarily want to get off topic so I will make this brief:

Being from Massachusetts, I have to say I'm pretty resentful of everyone making snide and uncalled for remarks about my home state. People and government are the same everywhere you go, so don't think you have some kind of regional superiority. It's counterproductive.


On the topic at hand:

I haven't read every post in this thread yet so this may have already been noticed, but the first paragraphs in bill 2028 state:



SECTION 1. Chapter 17 of the General Laws is 1 hereby amended by striking out 2 section 2A, as appearing in the 2006 Official Edition, and inserting in place thereof the 3 following section:
Section 2A. (a) Upon declaration by the governor that an emergency exists which is detrimental 5 to the public health or upon declaration of a state of emergency under chapter 639 of the acts of 6 1950, as amended, the commissioner may, during such period of emergency, take such action 7 and incur such liabilities as he or she may consider necessary to assure the maintenance of 8 public health and the prevention of disease. The commissioner may establish procedures to be 9 followed during such emergency to ensure the continuation of essential public health services 10 and the enforcement of the same.


www.mass.gov...

The key phrase I saw immediately, and also think is much more frightening, is "or upon declaration of a state of emergency under chapter 639 of the acts of 1950." Or a state of emergency, eh? What's Chapter 639 of the Acts of 1950?

The first paragraph of Chapter 639 of the Massachusetts Acts of 1950 states:



The Governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is authorized under state lawchapter 639 of the Acts of 1950, as amended, to declare a Gubernatorial State of Emergency upon the occurrence of a natural or man-made disaster (see attached sample Executive Orders). Thise law gives the Governor broad authorities to implement emergency measures to ensure the safety and health of the residents of the Commonwealth, take appropriate steps to mobilize state assets and conduct other emergency business for the protection of the Commonwealth.


And with just a few words, almost any imaginable event can be declared a state of emergency, and the quarantine/isolation sections of bill 2028 become a whole lot more terrifying. A vaccine doesn't seem so scary anymore. I'm sure much of the MA Senate had great intentions in terms of pandemic prevention, but the sad truth of government is that not every word of every bill being passed is read. Just skimmed.

*EDIT* I was trying to find a linkable version as a source for Chapter 639 but couldn't find one that worked. Google has a downloadable .doc if you just search 'Massachusetts acts of 1950 chapter 639'

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reply posted on 27-8-2009 @ 05:40 AM by Cool Breeze
reply to post by Sacreligion


Very good post, you get a star for seeing the bigger picture.

I think this flu pandemic is just an excuse to give them more power. Look we all get the idea that this flu is no more dangerous than others (well at its current state at least) and when the flu season comes and goes what do you think they will say? "Well we got very lucky this time" but MA (and I suspect more states to follow suit) will have 2028 on the books so they can use it when the time is right.

Good luck to all.

It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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