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Every Critic a Racist

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posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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reply to post by kozmo
 


Fair enough, but it's not like conservatives are immune to the same degredations.

My point is that people are politically retarded and there are two kinds of politically retarded people:

Retarded liberals
Retarded conservatives

I guess it just gets me when people only rag on only one of the politically retarded groups and don't seem to ever point out the faults of the other.

[edit on 25-8-2009 by nunya13]




posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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The tea parties are a joke. The people throwing them should have been around when the Patriot Act was passed and other stuff. Where were they?


You have a good point there and that does irritate me. NOW some of the same that said we needed it to make us safer now act like they've always been against it because they are the same people who are crying for constitutional integrity and realize that by not speaking out against the PATRIOT Act at the time makes them hypocrites.

So now they just say they've always been against it, but never spoke up a bout it.

edit: And I'm talking about MSM pundits and "reporters".

[edit on 25-8-2009 by nunya13]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:18 PM
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Completely agree with this.Socialism,communism or whatever floats your boat is not a one size fits all.If everyone was truthful we would see that people like to pick and mix certain ideologies and combine them together..some make up a larger percentage than others.For all intensive purposes im a communist...yet not comfortable with the pseudo stalin or Mao version of communism.Not comfortable with all encompassing government either...wrap your head around that.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
ROTFLMAO! Talk about the old pot calling the new kettle black! I haven't heard an honest, fact based argument from the right in ages. PUHLEEEEEEEEEESE!


Talk about political baiting, and trolling...

You sure like to generalize people and label them into one group don't you?... just take a look at the links, and names of your links in your signature...



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
I'm sorry, but an article from Pravda is not enough to make your point.

Nice try though. I'll leave you to wallow in your own ignorance. Enjoy the cold-war mentality that has served us oh-so well for the past 50 years.

It's funny to watch people make brainless Obama = Hitler or Obama = Stalin comparisons.

Nothing SHOWS ignorance more than that.


I guess the Janitor didn't want to discuss facts.

Typical.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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S&F

EU, I think you've proved your point. The replies have been spot on. Good job.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
This is very true.



Not really. It's quite a stretch to say every critic of Obama is called a racist.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:04 PM
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obama is showing himselt to be completely incompetent. not because he is black, but because he is marxist and wants to transform this country into a marxist government. that isn't racism. it is fact. he is proud of his ideals.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
ROTFLMAO! Talk about the old pot calling the new kettle black! I haven't heard an honest, fact based argument from the right in ages. PUHLEEEEEEEEEESE!


Talk about political baiting, and trolling...

You sure like to generalize people and label them into one group don't you?... just take a look at the links, and names of your links in your signature...


Nice job of cherry picking! Had you included the post I was responding to, you would have seen true political baiting and trolling, but then you would have to admit that a right winger was guilty of it. Personally, I'm sick and tired of it from both sides. When the right is in power, the left resorts to lies and half truths to attack them, and when the left is in power, the right resorts to lies and half truths to attack them. I wish both parties would just go the way of the Whig Party, into the mists of history. But alas, the Center will never truly be represented. I will forever be given nothing but a choice between one extreme and the other. As to my signature links, one has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with politics, and the other is just another example of extremism by one of the two parties. You don't like my opinion, that's your perogative, but good luck trying to silence me or guilt me into keeping quiet. You would stand a better chance of extinguishing the sun!



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 10:31 PM
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Basically you are saying that if you identify yourself with a particular group you are a racist. That means that you only way not to be a racist is to denounce your family tree and any cultural tradition that may have been passed down to you?


“Do you really think I care…
What you read or what you wear…
I want you to join together with the band”

“There are a million ways to laugh…
And everyone is a path…
Come on join together with the band”

The Who “Join together”

I agree culture is a great thing, but as someone born and raised in America with the mixed blood of a few different
Heritages, who has always lived in very diverse, melting pot, multi-cultural cities, I have always felt lucky and privileged to be able to pick and chose and to adopt those cultural traits and tastes which I enjoy from all of them.

I can honestly say I don’t look at a person’s sex, sexual orientation, race, religion, or nationality as determining their worth and likability.

I do have a much simpler cultural standard of my own, which utilizing I have broken down the entire population of the planet into two camps…

Those who believe (as is obviously true) that Led Zeppelin is the greatest Rock Band of all time…

And those (miserable, wretched excuse for human beings) that don’t!

Now I feel this is a far more sensible thing to do as when Led Zeppelin did its H20 London Reunion Show millions of people from all over the globe from every nation, culture, religion and sex and sexual orientation entered an online lottery to win the chance to buy tickets.

Obviously Led Zeppelin is the only thing ever known on the planet that clearly demonstrates a strong ability to cross all lines and unite people as one, and to get them to pay big for it!

So I like to think there is hope for humanity, well at least Led Zeppelin fans.

Clearly though, those who don’t believe Led Zeppelin is the greatest Rock Band of all time, have issues and while I can’t say exactly what causes it…well, clearly they are screwing up the planet.

Racism is stupid.

Bandism is where the cutting edge argument is at!



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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I just want to clarify what it means to be socialist-

www.britannica.com...

These definitions don't have anything to do with government systems-

Systems of Government
Categories•Democracy
•Communism
•Imperialism

I think many terms are getting mixed together inappropriately because we are so emotionally involved in the welfare of our country. Cooler heads can prevail in order to solve many of these issues.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:27 AM
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You claim to be sick of this yet you partook on the same political trolling that you are condenming, thats hypocresy at it's worse.

Btw, i don't want to silence you, I just was pointing out the fact that you were doing exactly what you were condenming the other member about...

BTW, Americans from ALL political parties are pointing out the lies, and broken promises of the Obama administration, yet you claimed in your response "the right exageates and lies"....

Almost every point which many Republicans are bashing the Obama administration on are the very same points many Americans from other political parties are bashing the Obama administration on...

Nice try...


[edit on 26-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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You must be a professional Cherry Picker! Now let's look at the entire quote that you cherry picked from:


When the right is in power, the left resorts to lies and half truths to attack them, and when the left is in power, the right resorts to lies and half truths to attack them.


Your (lame) attempt to discredit me is disingenuous at best.

Nice try.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 02:06 AM
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Originally posted by kozmo
Liberals, in my experience, cannot simply stick to the facts. Everything has to devolve into either pointed ad hominems or complete obfuscation in order to move you away from the topic. Simply addressing the topic would require truth, honesty and logic


I think the exact same thing about conservatives, to the T...
Maybe it is a basic subdivision of nature and perception?


anyhow, I don't get the racist charge, I haven't seen an influx of that here.

I have seen a boat load of bat chit crazy talk, but not in a racial fashion.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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Originally posted by mikerussellus

Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
I'm sorry, but an article from Pravda is not enough to make your point.

Nice try though. I'll leave you to wallow in your own ignorance. Enjoy the cold-war mentality that has served us oh-so well for the past 50 years.

It's funny to watch people make brainless Obama = Hitler or Obama = Stalin comparisons.

Nothing SHOWS ignorance more than that.


I guess the Janitor didn't want to discuss facts.

Typical.


I don't get your point Mike, what facts? I will get on it right away if you guys wanna dance...

Lets hear some facts -

I say "not every critic is racist - in fact very few"... But that is my opinion,

lets have some facts...



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 03:07 AM
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Promises aren’t black or white.

People, you cant put a number to broken, stalled, non-action and all that.


I, and most of you are quite fortunate.

We've lived to see 3 different periods of humanity

1. Pre-911
2. Post-911
3. Post 2008 Economic World

Australia, has its biggest debt.
Japan is struggling
England is really struggling

Instead of saying its Obama's fault, cant some people admit that previously made promises have to be ignored now, in favour of saving economic aspects? industrial aspects? your job, his job..

People jumped on the Obama Bandwagon SO hard, because they were desperate, they were in desperate need to eradicate the 'Bush' Era from their lives.

In comparison, the good things Bush did compared to the good things Obama did, and vice versa on the bad things, im still shocked that people are so willing to criticise Obama yet, not willing to criticise Bush.

He's been in office for 7 bloody months for crying out loud.
Some of you have been on this planet for 25yrs +, you cant even manage your credit card, mortgage and income.

Now, personally, ive been listening and watching Obama, he's a great speaker, but he needs to start delivering on his passionate speeches.
He needs to bring some substance, but we need to give him time.

People stuck with Bush for 8 painful years, yet they are so quick to turn on Obama there's only 2 ways others can see this

1. Racism
2. A sore loser quick to find a reason to hate the predecessor.

I find people are using ANYTHING, to have a go at Obama.

Its quite comical how desperate some are to take a jab at him.




posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts

Originally posted by kozmo
Liberals, in my experience, cannot simply stick to the facts.


ROTFLMAO! Talk about the old pot calling the new kettle black! I haven't heard an honest, fact based argument from the right in ages. PUHLEEEEEEEEEESE!


Considering your avatar, I understand why!

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posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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After going through this thread and after reviewing all of the comments made by the likes Garofalo and her buddies, I had to do a flashback to election day. I am imagining the comments and probable violence that would have occurred if Obama would have actually lost the election legitimately to McCain.

The calls of racism are rampant with Obama in the White House and I can only imagine the impact if he would have lost his appointment to his new position.

He was always meant to win. Hence the soft glove treatment that he received from his opponents.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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I don't think all Dems by far are so quick to pull the race card. But it happens quite a bit, it's even happened to me a few times on ATS when Race wasn't even being discussed. Janeane Garofalo by the way is probably one of the dumbest Human Beings to walk this planet.. her calling tea parties racist is hilarious, well except for the mindless E! lovers that eat up anything a celeb says..



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


his advocates continue to claim that every criticism of the President is "racism in disguise"


I'm sure this tactic will go down in history as being called "The Israel Maneuver". They perfected this a long time ago!

IRM



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