Every Critic a Racist

reply to post by nunya13


Fair enough. I will grant that there are certainly exceptions to the rule - aren't there always??? And I will gladly hold you up as an example. However, as I stated previously, IT HAS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE THAT... and that very experience leads me to my conclusion that most liberals are not able to have a debate grounded upon logic and fact without devolving into the aforementioned transgressions. Jenine Garofolo anyone???

reply to post by mikerussellus


OK, I'll pick Guantanamo Bay detention facility. In progress.

I'll stick with CNN. I like my news non-partisan as well.

He DID break promises.

The reaction though seems to be typical American (no patience whatsoever) or it's just reactionary bull#.

The tea parties are a joke. The people throwing them should have been around when the Patriot Act was passed and other stuff. Where were they?

It took a half-black man to piss these people off no matter how much they deny it.

reply to post by JaxonRoberts


It's not closing. When? Where? If he does, then I will rescind that one on the list. But it wasn't listed as broken, just breaking. . . .

Yeah, and I watch Fox because it's so non-partisan as well. . .

reply to post by Janitor From Mars


They were there. WE were there, when the patriot act was passed. Didn't like it, still don't.

Are your memories THAT short???

Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
He DID break promises.

The reaction though seems to be typical American (no patience whatsoever) or it's just reactionary bull#.

The tea parties are a joke. The people throwing them should have been around when the Patriot Act was passed and other stuff. Where were they?

It took a half-black man to piss these people off no matter how much they deny it.

Sadly, you just weren't paying enough attention! People were pissed before. They elected "Hope and Change" believing that we had finally shed the chains that were bringing this country down. Now many realize they were duped. And the ones who didn't vote for him... believed they knew this was coming. What you are seeing is a nation going from being merely pissed to completetly infuriated!!! It has nothing to do with him being half black - it has everything to do with him being 100% socialist!

A quote from the KRS video

If they were controlling it then, what makes you think they not controlling it now?

This is what I've been trying to tell people but they seem to have some sort of temporary(hopefully temporary) blinders on.

reply to post by kozmo


You don't even know what a socialist is do you?

www.sp-usa.org...

Read their positions on the issues. Read them good. And then, come back and tell me how their views align with Obama's views.

socialistworker.org...

Not overly pro-Obama.

Get it right for once.

Socialists weren't fond of Clinton either.

The point of this site is to DENY ignorance, not ENCOURAGE ignorance, especially that of people who whine about Obama being "100% Socialist" without knowing where Socialists stand.

I don't expect you to change your tune because you seem to march to the tune of the right-wing/extremist agenda.
[edit on 25-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

[edit on 25-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

reply to post by Janitor From Mars


This is an editorial from Pravda (yes, that Pravda) from May 2009.

It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their “right” to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our “democracy”. Pride blind the foolish. Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different “branches and denominations” were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the “winning” side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the “winning” side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America. The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America’s short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe. These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them? These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters. Then came Barack Obama’s command that GM’s (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of “pure” free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions. So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a “bold” move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK’s Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing, as foolish, drunken Russians, so let our “wise” Anglo-Saxon fools find out the folly of their own pride. Again, the American public has taken this with barely a whimper…but a “freeman” whimper. So, should it be any surprise to discover that the Democratically controlled Congress of America is working on passing a new regulation that would give the American Treasury department the power to set “fair” maximum salaries, evaluate performance and control how private companies give out pay raises and bonuses? Senator Barney Frank…has led this effort. He stresses that this only affects companies that receive government monies, but it is retroactive and taken to a logical extreme, this would include any company or industry that has ever received a tax break or incentive. The Russian owners of American companies and industries should look thoughtfully at this and the option of closing their facilities down and fleeing the land of the Red as fast as possible. In other words, divest while there is still value left. The proud American will go down into his slavery with out a fight, beating his chest and proclaiming to the world, how free he really is. The world will only snicker.

Scocialist? Dunno. Marxist? Yeah.



[edit on 25-8-2009 by mikerussellus]

I'm sorry, but an article from Pravda is not enough to make your point.

Nice try though. I'll leave you to wallow in your own ignorance. Enjoy the cold-war mentality that has served us oh-so well for the past 50 years.

It's funny to watch people make brainless Obama = Hitler or Obama = Stalin comparisons.

Nothing SHOWS ignorance more than that.

reply to post by JaxonRoberts



Sorry but that site is wrong...

First of all, look at the facts which they claim Obama has broken...

Where is the promise he made that he would bring all our troops home?...

Actually president Obama claimed the following...

Obama Says That His First Action as President Would be to Bring U.S. Troops Home from Iraq

In an 11-minute interview with hometown Chicago radio broadcaster and journalist, Roland Martin, Barack Obama revealed that his first act, if elected president, would be to pull our troops out of Iraq as quickly as possible.

blog.buzzflash.com...

What has happened has been the oposite, we have had the largest deployments of U.S. National Guard in most states, if not all since at least the Second World War, or in many cases i the largest deployments of NAtional Guard in many states history.

That's just one...

He also promise "transparency in government", yet the contrary has happened...

He also bashed many of the things that President Bush did, and said those things would end, yet he not only has continued many of the policies that President Bush made, but has even stated he would try to make at least some of them legal, such as the "preventive Detention" of "possible terrorists".

President Obama also claimed that there won't be any new taxes for Americans making a certain amount of money.

Yet...

Obama's Budget: Almost $1 Trillion in New Taxes Over Next 10 yrs, Starting 2011

President Obama's budget proposes $989 billion in new taxes over the course of the next 10 years, starting fiscal year 2011, most of which are tax increases on individuals.

1) On people making more than $250,000.

$338 billion - Bush tax cuts expire
$179 billlion - eliminate itemized deduction
$118 billion - capital gains tax hike

Total: $636 billion/10 years

2) Businesses:

$17 billion - Reinstate Superfund taxes
$24 billion - tax carried-interest as income
$5 billion - codify "economic substance doctrine"
$61 billion - repeal LIFO
$210 billion - international enforcement, reform deferral, other tax reform
$4 billion - information reporting for rental payments
$5.3 billion - excise tax on Gulf of Mexico oil and gas
$3.4 billion - repeal expensing of tangible drilling costs
$62 million - repeal deduction for tertiary injectants
$49 million - repeal passive loss exception for working interests in oil and natural gas properties
$13 billion - repeal manufacturing tax deduction for oil and natural gas companies
$1 billion - increase to 7 years geological and geophysical amortization period for independent producers
$882 million - eliminate advanced earned income tax credit

Total: $353 billion/10 years

blogs.abcnews.com...

That's not counting the "cap and trade" type taxes on CO2 that the Obama administration want to implement.

Wednesday, June 17, 2009
Obama's $700 billion new tax

When you read about the "cap-and-trade" bill on "global warming" that President Barack Obama is pushing before Congress, you may not understand how it would affect you. But everyone should be wary -- because it's about imposing what would amount to a new $700 billion tax on the American people.

The proposal is called the "Waxman-Markey Bill," named for Rep. Henry A. Waxman, D-Calif., and Rep. Richard J. Markey, D-Mass. It involves an effort to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide. The government would set limits on carbon dioxide emissions -- then allow industries that cut their emissions below the legislated standard to sell their non-emissions to companies that are unable to meet the government standards.

www.timesfreepress.com...

Obama also claimed that he would work for the people, and not for the benefit of Corporations, yet corporations have been bailed out left, and right, and the American people have been losing jobs like there is no tomorrow.

Those are some of the other promises President Obama made, and has broken.

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by mikerussellus

 

OK, I'll pick Guantanamo Bay detention facility. In progress.

I'll stick with CNN. I like my news non-partisan as well.

BTW do we even know where the detainees are going yet? Funny you picked an example that makes Mr. Obama look like the inexperienced political dunce that he is. You don't announce the closure of a major detention facility with no plan whatsoever as to where to put the detainees.

Look for the Club Gitmo closure to be delayed.....of course when that happens he will turn around and blame Bush for it. That is what he usually does.

reply to post by Janitor From Mars


It would help if you knew the difference between socialism and a socialist party! Socialism has been tried before.


en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by hangedman13


Whether I do or not does not excuse the ignorance on this site towards Obama.

referring to broken promises themselves (and i believe he has broken many of the things he promised to win votes, though admittedly most candidates do that.) do not mean I'm racist UNLESS i say that the reason he broke these promises is that he's black. i don't think it's his half blackness that leads to the broken promises, but his agenda. he sticks to his liberal agenda no matter what.

reply to post by mikerussellus

mike, the fact that you listed those facts in contradiction to Obama does in fact make you a racist. (By liberal definition.)

This is the lying-est, most disastrous person ever in any office in the United States. When you make that dumbass Carter look like an amateur, you've done something.

Change?

Oh yeah. Right down the toilet is certainly change all right.

One of Carter's guys said it took six months for the new guys and the new administration to learn their way around the bathrooms, offices, water fountains, and so on.

He contrasted how there was no way to come up with such legislation as Obama has.

Yet within a few months, Obama and crew were able to pull out thousands and thousands of pages of legislation.

I can assure you HE didn't come up with this.

I'd give a lot to know who his handlers are.

Which country PLACED this turd in place and then got him elected?

Racists remarks?

Obama upon the end of his first term, will go down in history as the all-time worst economic and foreign affair dumbass to ever hold the office.

He alone has ruined any chance for any other good African American to hold this office for generations.

I suppose that makes Obama racist.

Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
I'm sorry, but an article from Pravda is not enough to make your point.

Nice try though. I'll leave you to wallow in your own ignorance. Enjoy the cold-war mentality that has served us oh-so well for the past 50 years.

It's funny to watch people make brainless Obama = Hitler or Obama = Stalin comparisons.

Nothing SHOWS ignorance more than that.

You know what? Instead of calling me ignorant, racist, try PROVING youre point instead. What has he done right? The 9 trillion dollar budget? The healthcare bill? His lies? The email mess? How about reporting websites that don't agree with him?

C'mon, if you are the intellectual you claim to be, argue the issues instead of proving the OP's point that when you can't argue facts, you call us racist.

Originally posted by Janitor From Mars
reply to post by kozmo

 

You don't even know what a socialist is do you?

[edit on 25-8-2009 by Janitor From Mars]

BAH! You quote the American Socialist Party - NOT the defiinition of true Socialism. Try this on for size:

Socialism: a government in which the means of planning, producing, and distributing goods is controlled by a central government that theoretically seeks a more just and equitable distribution of property and labor; in actuality, most socialist governments have ended up being no more than dictatorships over workers by a ruling elite. SOURCE

Seems to me I know the definition of "Socialism" far better than you do! The American Socialist Workers Party is a completely bastardized form of Socialism.

reply to post by Janitor From Mars


Did Lenin, and Stalin agree in their definition of Communism?...

Just because some website, and some groups of Socialists don't agree with what President Obama has said, and done, it doesn't mean he is not a Socialist....

There are many forms of Socialism, and Socialists have different ideas on what sort of programs they want to implement...

Hitler was a SOCIALIST, yet he did not like Communism. Many Socialists dislike other forms of Socialism that exist in other countries, it doesn't make them any less Socialists.

The Compusory Community Service which the Obama administration has wanted to implement, and is implementing is similar to the 'Community Service" found in Socialist dictatorships.

Obama's chief of staff choice favors compulsory universal service

It's time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, All Americans between the ages of eighteen and twenty-five will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service.[b/] ...

www.examiner.com...

Even Emmanuel Rahm has stated that every American will be required to do some form of Community Service.

Watch this video to the end to see that not only do they want College students from 18-25 to do Compulsory Community Service, but EVERY American, and this includes children from secondary, which was already implemented as law, but Democrats are trying to pass another bill that will include American children starting from primary to be part of this Compulsory Community Service.

vodpod.com...



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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
well it really does take one to know one.

That is completely untrue!
Sounds like something you thought out loud after thinking of 1 or 2 examples off the top of your head.

Let me ask you
White Supremacist Nicknamed Hitler Beats Up Elderly Black Man

That guy nicknamed hitler beat up that elderly black man
When that elderly black man thought, that guy beat me up because he's a racist that makes the elderly black man a racist too?

Come on man

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
You see to be offended by a racist comment; you must first identify yourself with a race or group and see your plight in life tied to that race or group. That of course makes you a racist because well you identify and seek validation based on that race or group. That of course is about as racist as you can get.

Really?
So I'm East Indian, of course I identify myself as an indian because all my family that I grew up around are indians and I grew up in an indian family eating yummy indian food everyday and also growing up participating in indian cultural events. That makes me a racist?

I think not!

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
you are not supposed to comment on the fact that they are acting this way, but you, you comment on the fact that they are acting that way.

If this logic is what you really believe then you can also apply that to murder, rape, incest, sodomy or torture.

Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Racism might just be the scam of all time.

In some ways yes absolutely, just not any of the ways you described.

Basically you are saying that if you identify yourself with a particular group you are a racist. That means that you only way not to be a racist is to denounce your family tree and any cultural tradition that may have been passed down to you?

Sorry dude, I usually agree with you but this is lunacy