Originally posted by RyanLA123
I have heard of the Greenbriar bunker and Mount Weather. They are all very real sites an d I am not attacking or making fun of you in any way. Just something I read in a after reply to your post.

Greenbriar and Mount Weather are simple when compared to such sites as Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado, Iron Mountain in Pennsylvania or Mount Pony in VA. Some don't that projects of the past we now know to be fact, no matter the scale, were done many years ago with basic means and that today's boring and excavation technology available even 20 to 30 years ago far exceeds those capabilities. This fact in no way proves anything, but makes it less likely to ridecule a rare legit claim based solely on it's larger scale. When this thing's, whatever it is, construction starts I'll post pics if I can. I won't have a pointless "told ya so" attitude, just happy to help spread factual knowledge to those with a common interest. Which is only what I'm trying to do with this thread. Thumbs up back to ya.

Great! Once agian, I am not bashing your research in any way. I was making a remark to those who take your work and spin it with all kind of crazy claims of alien/human labs and portals from planet boodoodoo. I don't like it when people take a subject I take very seriously and pollute it and take someone like you and lead them off into BS directions. Just coming to your aid. Example -- Bob Lazar, John Lear and Dan Burisch etc etc. I don't like those people in the field of ufology.

Originally posted by rygi23
Some don't that projects of the past we now know to be fact, no matter the scale, were done many years ago with basic means and that today's boring and excavation technology available even 20 to 30 years ago far exceeds those capabilities.

I thought you would find this interesting...

A decade ago I saw, in person, a demonstration of "Jet Grouting" used to place cement pilings under a building that had been constructed many years earlier and which had started to sink somewhat. It looked like a simple drilling rig but the machine was connected to a truck with a couple of tanks and very loud pumps.

The drill holes were about 6 feet apart and the guy running the rig said that this means the underground cement columns will be close enough to touch each other and form a "wall" around the entire perimeter of the building.

Ever since I saw that demonstration, I realized we have the technology to build underground bunkers in very soft soils without doing any excavation first. To do this, all you need to do is make an artificial underground "cave" out of cement. You build a cement wall about 10 feet high around the entire perimeter and then you build a cement "cap" over the entire thing.

Once that is done, you can "excavate" the soft soil using high pressure water and pumps which is the same equipment you used for the jet grouting in the first place. You would end up with a slurry that could easily be pumped into nearby rivers.

So keep an eye out for drilling rigs spending a lot of time at that site. Most drilling is done for very short periods (like a day or two) but for jet grouting the rigs will be working there for weeks.

Jon

[edit on 8.31.2009 by Voxel]

Originally posted by RyanLA123
Great! Once agian, I am not bashing your research in any way. I was making a remark to those who take your work and spin it with all kind of crazy claims of alien/human labs and portals from planet boodoodoo. I don't like it when people take a subject I take very seriously and pollute it and take someone like you and lead them off into BS directions. Just coming to your aid. Example -- Bob Lazar, John Lear and Dan Burisch etc etc. I don't like those people in the field of ufology.

Agreed. Those with a genuine interest in the subject can help by not going so far with things as it only yields a result similar to organized disinformation. It just clogs up the pathways to knowing facts. I understand thier will always be reports with honest intentions that will eventually be explained, but as far as deliberate hoaxes and outlandish claims go I'd rather lose public interest gained from them in exchange for a simpler, yet more factual, knowledge base.

Originally posted by Voxel

Originally posted by rygi23
Some don't that projects of the past we now know to be fact, no matter the scale, were done many years ago with basic means and that today's boring and excavation technology available even 20 to 30 years ago far exceeds those capabilities.

I thought you would find this interesting...

A decade ago I saw, in person, a demonstration of "Jet Grouting" used to place cement pilings under a building that had been constructed many years earlier and which had started to sink somewhat. It looked like a simple drilling rig but the machine was connected to a truck with a couple of tanks and very loud pumps.

The drill holes were about 6 feet apart and the guy running the rig said that this means the underground cement columns will be close enough to touch each other and form a "wall" around the entire perimeter of the building.

Ever since I saw that demonstration, I realized we have the technology to build underground bunkers in very soft soils without doing any excavation first. To do this, all you need to do is make an artificial underground "cave" out of cement. You build a cement wall about 10 feet high around the entire perimeter and then you build a cement "cap" over the entire thing.

Once that is done, you can "excavate" the soft soil using high pressure water and pumps which is the same equipment you used for the jet grouting in the first place. You would end up with a slurry that could easily be pumped into nearby rivers.

So keep an eye out for drilling rigs spending a lot of time at that site. Most drilling is done for very short periods (like a day or two) but for jet grouting the rigs will be working there for weeks.

Jon

[edit on 8.31.2009 by Voxel]

Thx a bunch Jon. I'm familiar with this method. It's one more reason to conclude that these days darn near anything we can think of can be done, much already has. Great info.

UPDATE: had another talk with my source...the name of the company building this facility is "Clark Construction". More details concerning design, specs, and location soon.

Well, it's official...the underground facility totalling 1.1 million sq. ft. consisting of elevator shafts, a bunker, and multiple exit corridores is an emergency bunker that will be nine stories underneath the new Homeland Security Headquarters. The buildings that were to be demolished are all part of the St. Elizabeths Psychiatric Hospital, federally owned land for over a hundred years.

Something just hit me. What we used to find out about after decades of hearsay and naysay, now we find out about it before the thing's even built. Kinda funny. I'll be happy to answer any further relevant questions if I'm privy to the info.

NORAD in Colorado Springs probably has close to a million square feet, and that thing was built on springs within a mountain like, what...35 years ago? So it can be done.