where did u get this information if i may ask?
Originally posted by RoofMonkeyCool to be skeptical about anything and everything, I am myself. I'm going on the actual plans and construction estimates given, not the permits and tax rolls.
Not being skeptical... or wearing a tinfoil hat... but strange data can be derived from construction permits and tax rolls. Some one who knows that system can look for oddities there. I did when FEMA went nuts with the trailers down here. It was most enlightening.
Just fodder for those wanting to snoop.
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[edit on 25-8-2009 by RoofMonkey]
Originally posted by fliceThere are from 3 to 5 corrodores. By being not far from the surface I meant not a mile down or anything, like a D.U.M.B. 50'-75' was the depth given. 1 million sq. ft. not being much...I worked in a warehouse that was 200K sq. ft. and it was huge. 5 times that underground is hard to imagine. I don't want to nail myself down with specifics and I'm not trying to sound like I know everything about it because I don't. I'm not used to being personally let in on something like this. I'm going what I was told by someone I really trust and has no reason to lie.
What about the internal compartments? How are they devided up.
You say top level wasn't far from surface, would that mean that it isn't a likely shelter to protect anything from something?
1 million sq. ft. doesn't seem like too much.
In comparison, here's 1mill sq foot building in London:
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This building is housing 7000 workers, so it probably couldn't fit in too many "decidents"?
Originally posted by gariacPer my initial post...
If this is an announced project, then eh, whatever. If you expect us to believe this will be done in secret, read on....
Well, lets do the math. Assume the underground structure is 12ft tall. Not very tall mind you, but it's a starting point. That is 4 yards tall. One million square feet is 111111 square yards. Multiply by 4 and you get 444444. Since the construction is completely underground, you have to haul all the dirt off site. Using a 100 yard trailer, you get 4444 trips. Think anyone would notice? I do.
Every time someone dreams up these mysterious underground bases, they never consider the scale of the project. We haven't even begun to talk about the concrete pumpers need, steel beams, etc.
Glenn Campbell's blog covered a tunneling project in DC. Closer to reality than this million square foot underground secret base.
Glenn's blog
Glenn, unlike all the armchair investigators, goes to the scene and takes a look. Oh, what a novel idea!
Originally posted by gariacI don't believe in theories around the Denver Airport or Dulce and am not part of a "crowd". I do believe there are underground facilities we don't know about because their are so many that we do know about. I'm not speculating about something, I am telling you that, whatever it's for, it is being built starting sometime early 2010. I started this thread knowing full well that some would call me a liar because in my opinion the majority of info. on any site like this is questionable to say the least. I think it's best the two of us just left this alone until I post pics .
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Nothing remedial about my math. Actually it is generous to your cause since I didn't leave any earth between the so-called underground base and the surface. Increase the dirt by 4 or 5 fold.
The underground base crowd is like the UFO crowd. They want to believe, so they believe. No amount of logic ever convinces them otherwise, hence the big underground base at the Denver airport rumor, Dulce, etc.
Incidentally, it's not a big deal to put part of a building underground when you do construction at the surface. I have plans for building on bases that indicate where the underground portion is located. Or simple tunnels. It is the construction of massive underground facilities that is always suspect. There is always the problem of getting rid of the dirt and of course the structural engineering of expansive areas. If you look at underground mines, they leave some areas uncut to support the ground above.
It makes much more sense to use existing caves or at least construct in the side of a mountain. For one thing, the soil is more suitable.
Originally posted by gariacMan, I here ya. The location isn't the off-the-beaten-path type. The topography of the land thier is ideal and kind of rare in or around D.C. but other than that I'm stumped. The coast guard argument doesn't make the complex less likely, it makes it less likely that it's for anything having to do with the coast guard, which is really my whole point behind this thread. Finding out now that other people know about it as well has made it almost a certainty to me that this thing is being built. The only question for me is what the heck for. In 5 mos. or so if the surrounding area isn't secured I'll be able to get some pics of whatever, if anything, is going on.
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But placing these bunkers in mountains or under facilities is exactly how it is done. [Would you seriously build a facility under land you can't control? Your enemies can drill down and spy on you.] Better to run for the basement than to wait for the chopper to take you to the remote location. For off site security, Raven Rock is the classic government bunker.
Raven Rock
What makes this million square foot underground complex even less likely is the Coast Guard is under DHS, and DHS really can't get it's act together. It would be a miracle if DHS could make their phones work, let alone pull off such an operation as this new facility.