Right-wingers cry socialism over 9/11 anniversary plan backed by many in GOP, page 2
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reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 02:07 AM by drwizardphd
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Did you read what that article by Wiki said at the beginning?

The following are executive branch officials to whom the media has referred as a czar of some kind.

excerpted from wiki article.


Because that's all a Czar is! It's not a real thing, the only way a political executive becomes a 'Czar' is when the media labels him/her as one.


Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
I would like to actually see a real list, because last i checked and what I have seen before, Clinton only had 3 Czars, and Bush had 4.

While previous administrations had czars – Ronald Reagan had 1, George Bush had 1, Bill Clinton had 3 and George W. Bush had 4 – Congressman Kingston’s concern takes root in the number and speed with which they are being appointed as well as the vast policy areas they govern.

www.traditionalvalues.org...



Right, that's because that website is a ridiculously slanted right-wing publication. The wikipedia list is accurate, complete, up to date, and unbiased. That article you quoted has a clear axe to grind, and that axe is Obama.

A tip: don't get your information from horrendously slanted political rags and you won't feel slighted when the figures you believed to be true turned out not to be. That's what's great about wikipedia, you can follow the sources and see directly where the information is coming from. Sites like 'traditionalvalues.org' like to just make stuff up because nobody calls them on their sources, because they don't print real news.

Face it, Bush had more appointees than Obama, and a far greater percentage of them were not confirmed by a Senate hearing. If you are going to cry about Obama doing it, fine. But you must also acknowledge and bemoan Bush doing it, because he has done it to a greater degree. If we continue to only call out the 'other side' on their faults, while ignoring our own, then we fall victim to the partisan game that makes shills out of all of us.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 02:25 AM by yellowcard
Originally posted by whaaa
This is just crazy! The GOP is calling this proposal "socialist" even though it was President Bush that first proposed it.

And this is interesting....




American Spectator, states that the president’s plan for a National Day of Service, to be celebrated on September 11, would eliminate 9/11 as a political tool for Republicans.


Republicans want to use 911 as a political tool? How?

God help us! I used to say like HST that "it can't get to weired for me" but it's getting very close.

rawstory.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 25-8-2009 by whaaa]


What the hell you talking about? "Right wingers" does not mean GOP, the article doesn't say GOP...it clearly says that the national day of service had bipartisan support what are the two parties again? Oh yeah, the GOP and DNC. Next time a "left-winger" says they want all of capitalism to die and for communism to reign supreme I'm going to say the DNC said that.


reply posted on 26-8-2009 @ 09:52 AM by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to
post by jd140




I also wouldn't care if President Bush proposed it. I don't think one of the worse days of American history should be used as a political tool to have Americans work free for the government,



WHAT? This is a day of National SERVICE, not WORK FOR THE GOV!

Do you owe your community ANYTHING? ANYTHING AT ALL?

We are a nation of people who piss on others now, there is no concept of community or society and I guess that's the way you want it to stay.
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