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Right-wingers cry socialism over 9/11 anniversary plan backed by many in GOP

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posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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Right-wingers cry socialism over 9/11 anniversary plan backed by many in GOP


rawstory.com

Right-wing commentators are claiming that the White House is planning to “erase the meaning” of the 9/11 attacks and turn the anniversary into “a day of leftist celebration and statist idolatry” — despite the fact that the plan for a National Day of Service on 9/11 had broad bipartisan support.

An article by Matthew Vadum, published Monday in the American Spectator, states that the president’s plan for a National Day of Service, to be celebrated on September 11, would eliminate 9/11 as a political tool for Republicans.
As some commentators have pointed out, Vadum’s article ov
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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This is just crazy! The GOP is calling this proposal "socialist" even though it was President Bush that first proposed it.

And this is interesting....





American Spectator, states that the president’s plan for a National Day of Service, to be celebrated on September 11, would eliminate 9/11 as a political tool for Republicans.


Republicans want to use 911 as a political tool? How?

God help us! I used to say like HST that "it can't get to weired for me" but it's getting very close.

rawstory.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



[edit on 25-8-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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"Damn the country, Obama must fail"

--GOP



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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Wow.

I guess if President Bush proposed it, it couldn't be Socialism.

However, now that we're under a Democratic administration, anything that happens is labeled with the big S-word.

I guess people in this country really are too dumb to understand what Socialism is, and how something like this has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Before anyone goes off on a tangent, I will just leave this here:



Socialism refers to various theories of economic organization advocating state, worker or public ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods, and a society characterized by free and equal access to resources for all individuals with an egalitarian method of compensation. Socialism is not a political system; it is an economic system distinct from capitalism.


Socialism



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:30 PM
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Guys don't get involved in that whole left vs. right or republicans vs. dems.

It's all a puppet show

www.salon.com...

don't fall for it it's all politricks

you can make your own events too guys
911dayofservice.org...

Also this was signed in April by Obama as far as I know, not bush

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posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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Sweet Lapdancing Jesus! How is doing something extremely patriotic, such as dedicating a day to national service in memory of those who perished for simply being from or living in the US Socialist??? This is truly unamerican behavior!



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Guys don't get involved in that whole left vs. right or republicans vs. dems.

It's all a puppet show



We know that, but what a "puppet show" it is. I love American Politics for it's entertainment value. And as a student of contemporaty culture; what a teriffic sounding board for the American mind set.

My head is spinning



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem
"Damn the country, Obama must fail"

--GOP


To save the country, Obama must fail.

Recession: When your neighbor loses his job.
Depression: When you lose your job.
Recovery: When Mr. Obama loses his job.

Hmmm.....Porkulus spending bill, Cash for Clunkers, closing Club Gitmo, Auto takeover, Government run health care, cigarette tax, more czars than Russia, 10% unemployment, 9 Trillion dollar deficit. I don't care what this White House proposes, I am against it.

[edit on 25-8-2009 by RRconservative]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative

Originally posted by buddhasystem
"Damn the country, Obama must fail"

--GOP


To save the country, Obama must fail.


Yes, that's how screwed up GOP has really become, simply pathetic!
For Obama to fail, the crisis must worsen, healthcare spiral out of control and be even less accessible, and so ad infinitum. Damn the country indeed, sir. Sometimes I just think GOPers hate the rest of us Americans.


Hmmm.....Porkulus spending bill, Cash for Clunkers


You'd rather American's drive clunkers or economy allowed to totally sink, sure.


Government run health care, cigarette tax


Both brilliant ideas!


10% unemployment, 9 Trillion dollar deficit.


This is just sooo disingenuous... Crisis was getting momentum before Obama even took office...


I don't care what this White House proposes, I am against it.


I know you don't care. You'd rather people suffer than get a dent on your ideology.



[edit on 25-8-2009 by buddhasystem]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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... its pretty easy to have more czars than russia. they used to have only one, and none at all since 1917.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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For Obama to fail, all he has to do is continue his failed policies and ideas that he has obtained through his many friends through the years. Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Saul Mendelson, Tony Rezko, Marilyn Katz, Frank Marshall Davis, Van Jones, Louis Farakhan.

Isn't it amazing that Obama wanted Government run health care to pass so quickly before the announcement that the deficit went from 7 TRILLION to 9 TRILLION?



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
reply to post by buddhasystem
 


For Obama to fail, all he has to do is continue his failed policies and ideas that he has obtained through his many friends through the years. Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Saul Mendelson, Tony Rezko, Marilyn Katz, Frank Marshall Davis, Van Jones, Louis Farakhan.

Isn't it amazing that Obama wanted Government run health care to pass so quickly before the announcement that the deficit went from 7 TRILLION to 9 TRILLION?


a) Obama wants to pass this important piece of legislation while he has the momentum, any politician would do the same

b) Please explain which of the ideas of Louis Farakhan, Tony Rezko and others you so confidently identify as being implemented in Obama's policies. If you can't do that, you might as well retract your statement as unfounded and quite false (what else is new).



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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On topic:

form that american spectator piece:



The plan is to turn a "day of fear" that helps Republicans into a day of activism called the National Day of Service that helps the left. In other words, nihilistic liberals are planning to drain 9/11 of all meaning. "They think it needs to be taken back from the right," said the source. "They're taking that day and they're breaking it because it gives Republicans an advantage. To them, that day is a fearful day."


Ok, when i read the excerpt in the OP i first thought he was *criticizing* the republicans for their stance. When i read this i have to ask myself if the author did so too... might have been a good idea.

Btw: Any comments on the ridiculous czar thing RRconservative?



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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Didn't you know that anything President Obama does is socialist, communist, radical, violent, unamerican, community-organizing, Constitution-shredding treason?

Doesn't matter if the Republicans favor anything, as soon as Obama agrees with them they disown that idea. Like Michael Steele in one breath saying we should preserve Medicare and in the next that it's a socialist nightmare.

Now that Obama's president the right wants to take all their toys and go home, but not before wrecking the sandbox.

So let them take back 9/11 and pout. If they don't want to play with us they can have their own birthday party in September.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:40 AM
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I said it when I heard that it was Obama proposed it and I will say it now that I heard that it was Bush who proposed it.

Leave September 11 alone.

I don't care how many Republicans agreed to it. Doesn't matter to me one bit.

To be fair, I don't ever recall hearing about Bush proposing this. I heard him tell people to volunteer, but never heard of him proposing to make it a national holiday.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by debunky
... its pretty easy to have more czars than russia. they used to have only one, and none at all since 1917.


No, the Romanovs had 18 Czars, that's more than 1 Czar.


It has finally happened. With yesterday's naming of Border Czar Alan Bersin, the Obama administration has by any reasonable reckoning passed the Romanov Dynasty in the production of czars. The Romanovs ruled Russia from 1613 with the ascension of Michael I through the abdication of Czar Nicholas II in 1917. During that time, they produced 18 czars. While it is harder to exactly count the number of Obama administration czars, with yesterday's appointment it seems fair to say it is now certainly in excess of 18.

rothkopf.foreignpolicy.com...

Anyway, as to the original article perhaps it has something to do with the fact that AMERICANS should each one decide what they want to do on 9/11 instead of having that date as a "National Day Service"?

Yes, there were many first responders who died that day, but last I checked even though they were doing this job to save lives all first responders GET PAID.

Not to mention the fact that most Americans who died that day were not first responders... So do we forget about the regular Americans who died that day?...

Isn't it enough that the Obama administration already implemented into law having compulsory Community Service? Now they want to make 9/11 as a celebration of the Obama administration's Community Service day?

Perhaps they should have made 9/11 as "Remembrance Day" and not use it as a tool for their Socialist programs.


The Senate approved a major national-service bill Thursday that triples the AmeriCorps program to 250,000 participants and designates Sept. 11 as a "National Day of Service and Remembrance."

"Sept. 11 should not only be a day for mourning - it should be a day to think about our neighbors, our community and our country," Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said.

"We can take a tragic day in our nation's history and turn it into a force for good," added Schumer. "We can make it a day on which we can give back in remembrance of those who lost their lives."

President Obama is expected to sign the bill into law.

www.nydailynews.com...

The above is from March of this year.





[edit on 26-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 12:56 AM
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I also wouldn't care if President Bush proposed it. I don't think one of the worse days of American history should be used as a political tool to have Americans work free for the government, more so when the government already has passed a law on compulsory Community Service for Americans, and even the laws passed define it clearly that no American will be paid for any voluntary, or compulsory service.

9/11 shouldn't be used in this manner by ANYONE.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:01 AM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


No, the Romanovs had 18 Czars, that's more than 1 Czar.



Yes but not all at the same time.

In any event, can I be the first to say that all of this focus on "Czars" is WAY overblown?

There is no official position in the US government called a 'Czar'. It was an informal term used by the media since the 40's to describe people appointed to specialized areas of the government. There are many dozens of them that have been around since well before Obama's presidency.

You can see a list of all of the positions that have been referred to as 'Czar' here:

List of U.S. executive branch czars


The folks who are insisting that Obama is creating these positions to emulate Slavic monarchs or to insist some sort of Communist overtone are...well, morons.



[edit on 26-8-2009 by drwizardphd]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd

In any event, can I be the first to say that all of this focus on "Czars" is WAY overblown?


If you want to call "overblown" the fact that the Obama Czars for the most part have not been confirmed by the Senate... The man just put them in power without any oversight...

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[edit on 26-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by drwizardphd

The folks who are insisting that Obama is creating these positions to emulate Slavic monarchs or to insist some sort of Communist overtone are...well, morons.


The morons are the people who fail to see the fact that Obama is puting most of these Czars in power WITHOUT CONFIRMATION BY THE SENATE, and these same people don't have to testify before oversight committees....

Yes there have been some Czars in the past but they were confirmed by the Senate. President Bush had 4 Czars and they were confirmed by the Senate. President OBama has what 34, or 36? most of which have not been confirmed by the Senate.

Even Senator Bryd, a Senior Democrat has stated Obama's Czars are unConstitutional.


Last week President Obama appointed yet another “czar” with massive government power, answering only to him. Even before this latest appointment, the top-ranking Democrat in the Senate wrote President Obama a letter saying that these czars are unconstitutional. President Obama’s “czar strategy” is an unprecedented power grab centralizing authority in the White House, outside congressional oversight and in violation of the Constitution.

www.infowars.com...


[edited for errors]

[edit on 26-8-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



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