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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 02:08 PM by KSPigpen
reply to post by Stillalive



I don't think I qualify as a 'competent politician' but hell, that probably makes me just as qualified as the 'competent politicians', huh? Incompetence is the NEW competence.

I already give away half of my pay every day to one program or another. I don't have any choice about it. So, you propose that I add another 2 to 12 percent, again , that I have no choice about, and give it away to some social program that I don't give a crap about? Hmm....maybe we need to save the whales, or the hippies, or the hippy whales.
Who decides that the 'cause' is worthy? We're going to put a 'commission' in charge of it? Oh yeah, that sounds really trustworthy. Sign me up.
I think people SHOULD give a rat's tail about other people and make a difference where they can, but when you FORCE them to, isn't that just another tax?
Competence or not, this plan stinks. Instead of bringing home HALF of my pay to my family for bills and groceries, I can bring home 40 percent? Nah, I'll pass. The welfare teets are apparently large enough already as there are plenty getting fat off my sweat already.
I think I can get by just fine without funding some other yahoo's idea about what would make the world a better place to eat the cookies I had to work for.



reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 02:10 PM by ZeroKnowledge
Problem A:
People (rich and poor alike) tend to have a "tiny" problem with taxes. So while noble people (like OP,surely) would gladly pay 2 percent - or more, some less noble ones (like me ,probably) would not appreciate paying another two percent to
Problem 2:
bunch of beurocrats who would spend the money in multiple meetings, on multitude of different commities, and on quarrels one with another due to
Problem 3:
political and economical differences.
A little example - people in African country are suffering from famine/epidemics. 100 millions are needed and are available from your noble fund. Now bunch of dudes with totally unrelated interests sit down and start to decide how to invest it all wisely. Experts,hotels, meetings - couple of millions are spent at once. Then - what is source of food/medication? Country X says - we donate the most, it should be bought from us. Country Y says that theirs is the best. Z - that theirs is the cheapest. There is a silent struggle about who would get the contract. Result is not always the best possible. Or usually not the best possible. Another ten millions wasted on this strugle. Then - who would be responsible for delivering it to people? Government of African country? But they have enemies, do not control all the territory, are corrupt and such. Majority of aid goes to local militias who then resell it and make money. Several millions do reach the simple people who in the meanwhile are suffering from thirst too. And have bigger problems like civil war going on between now rich militias and government forces.
So my suggestion - fixing result of problem does not work. Fixing the problem is needed. Investing the money in economy and stability of these countries would eventually make them capable of fighting emergencies by themself. US (and others) are sending billions $ to poor countries for decades - and those billions come from taxpayers pockets, just as you suggested. Result is - same old, same old. Famines, wars, hunger,malaria and bunch of other problems. Western firms that produce the goods sent as aid - gain. Economy of countries who reiceve those goods remains in crap.

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