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Originally posted by ANTHONY33
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
You really don't get it. The fact is the questions asked are very important but this guy did not have desirable answers to them so he conveniently played the '' I am a Jew so I can't be a bad person '' card on her. There was no attack on his race or religious beliefs but he chose to take the opportunity to make it so.
He is basically saying I am Jewish so you cant touch me. I am immune to criticism because I am a Jew. As if to say he could not possibly subscribe to NAZI style agendas.
It makes no difference what race or culture one comes from there is bad eggs everywhere and this one just happens to proclaim his Jewishness. Yeah right
[edit on 24-8-2009 by ANTHONY33]
Originally posted by ANTHONY33
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck
You really don't get it. The fact is the questions asked are very important but this guy did not have desirable answers to them so he conveniently played the '' I am a Jew so I can't be a bad person '' card on her. There was no attack on his race or religious beliefs but he chose to take the opportunity to make it so.
He is basically saying I am Jewish so you cant touch me. I am immune to criticism because I am a Jew. As if to say he could not possibly subscribe to NAZI style agendas.
It makes no difference what race or culture one comes from there is bad eggs everywhere and this one just happens to proclaim his Jewishness. Yeah right
[edit on 24-8-2009 by ANTHONY33]
Originally posted by ANTHONY33
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Originally posted by breakingdradles
Seems to me he nailed her right on...wrong phony analogy to pull on a Jew. Serves her right, IMHO.
That's like saying its ok for Israel to kill Muslims because they are Jewish.
Originally posted by NWRHINO
This is what the woman was speaking about when she compared the current health care reform to the policies of the NAZIs :
Dr. Ezekiel Emanual, Healthcare Policy advisor to president Obama.
"... Procedurally, it suggests the need for public forums to deliberate about which health services should be considered basic and should be socially guaranteed.
Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future genera- tions, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. ... Read More
Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.A less obvious example Is is guaranteeing neuropsychological services to ensure children with learning disabilities can read and learn to reason."
Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama's 'Deadly Doctor,' Strikes Back
The attacks on Emanuel are a reminder that there is a narrow slice of Americans who not only don't trust government, but also have come to regard it as a dark conspirator in their lives....
This is where the criticism of Emanuel enters the picture, since he is just the sort of scientist who might be appointed to one of those panels. For decades, Emanuel has studied the ethics of medical care, especially in situations where a scarcity of resources requires hard decisions to be made. His work sometimes deals with the hardest possible decisions, like how to choose who gets a single kidney if there are three patients in need, or the reasons that doctors order tests with little medical value. Emanuel's reputation ranks him among the top members of his field. He is published often in the best journals; he has been given multiple awards for work to improve end-of-life care. news.yahoo.com...
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
[Mmmm...something yoinked out of context from an academic paper some 13 years ago. Do you think she read it, or is she simply drinking the Koolaid? I submit:
Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama's 'Deadly Doctor,' Strikes Back
The attacks on Emanuel are a reminder that there is a narrow slice of Americans who not only don't trust government, but also have come to regard it as a dark conspirator in their lives....
Kudos for using the word "yoinked" !
I agree that this woman could be a Kool Aid drinking automoton, programmed to carry forth an agenda.
However, I do not understand how an acedemic paper written by Dr Emanuel can be "taken out of context". These are his written words regardless of the date it was created, until he can refute his own written word, then it can logically be inferred he still is of this mind set
Dr Emanuels 1996 Hastings report - Where Civic Republicanism and Deliberative Democracy Meet
One of the great things about freedom is that you do not have to trust your government, which is made of failable people.
What is the point of having a constitution that protects a free peoples right to express themselves to their elected representatives, if the representatives will not address the people's expression of concern
He could have just said, No your wrong about this issue.
Frank instead denied this woman of her right to express herself by condeming her for even asking her question
Even if this woman is wrong or deluded she is entitled to her opinion
The 1st Amendement is not suspended because of an unpopular opinion or because a person mentions Nazis to a person of Barney Franks ethnic background
Originally posted by NWRHINO
Frank instead denied this woman of her right to express herself by condeming her for even asking her question
Even if this woman is wrong or deluded she is entitled to her opinion
The 1st Amendement is not suspended because of an unpopular opinion or because a person mentions Nazis to a person of Barney Franks ethnic background