U.S. Marine Stands Up for Our Rights Against Congressman – video

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posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Well for anyone wondering here is how I was handled with govt. health care and yes I'm a vet and only used it once now I just pay for a real hospital visit instead.

I sliced my hand to the bone literally. My room mate at the time was an RN. He saw it and said I needed stitches.

In order to go to the hospital was first required to call the number on the insurance card.

Waited 20 minutes until someone picked up described the problem he told me he would have to contact a Dr. and call me back per policy.

30 minutes later he calls me back and says I have to wait for the Dr. they called to call me.

30 minutes later that Dr. calls me then tells me he'll call me back after he gets a hold of a local Dr.

The local Dr. 30 minutes later calls me and says "Go ahead and come in" several hours later I get in by this time it's clotted and disinfected and bandaged by myself. Of course they break it open and redo everything I had already done bill the govt. insurance and send me home.

I got different insurance and never went through the govt. insurance again.




posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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No the point is that you are the victim of propaganda - you have absolutely no idea what so ever about what you are talking about - you are just sprouting catch phrases - "liberty, tyranny, Nazism, Freedom - yaaaah!" You have no idea - none. And yet you are engaging in some of the most dangerous vocabulary and supporting actions which are so extreme that in almost every sense they the absolute opposite of what your country stands for, of what your sonctiution is about - you simply dont understand th slightest thing you are talking about - My question to you is WHY wont you try and find out the truth instead of just chanting slogans provided to you by the propagandists ? Wouldn't it be better to maybe find out the truth ?






Dude you need to chill, claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about?

I could spout off my education in the subject and what I do for a living. But it's clear you must just be trolling. I know what I am talking about and clearly it seems you are the one being ignorant here.



Sad that when anyone asserts their rights they get attacked and called uneducated.


I support what the man said, I also agree with less government, removal of the fed res, and the return to constitutional law. And you just wanna troll someone for an argument.

Why don't you return to 4chan since all you want to do is name calling.





[edit on 8/24/2009 by Cito]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by uaocteaou
This cat is just another example of an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.

He's a self described disabled Marine veteran, which means that he receives VA medical care, As we all know, that's a Government run medical plan. So, it's okay for him, but nobody else should have what he benefits from?.. Clown.

Reminds me of the senior citizens who shout that they want the government to keep their hands off their medicare, LOL rediculous. Again, it's good for them, but nobody else deserves it?.. Clowns.

Listen, I agree with free speech, but I also believe that if you are going to challenge or confront someone, you should also be required to know what you're talking about, this fellow has no idea what he's talking about.

Anf to answer the OP's origional question about health care, OF COURSE, WE MUST HAVE A PUBLIC OPTION.

Oh, and if you are a receipient of Government run health care, you shouldn't bitch about others having an oportunity to benefit as YOU yourself enjoy.

Now, let the uber-right flaming begin, I don't care.


Serve your country, fight in a battle, get wounded and survive, then get your ass back home, look at people like you in the face and listen to them talk crap like you, then you will have your own VA Disabled Veteran's healthcare.

Until you do this, know what you are talking about.

BUT DO KNOW THIS, THE REASON YOU STAND AND BREATHE IS BECAUSE OF MEN LIKE HIM AND MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE WALKED BEFORE HIM TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S FREEDOM. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THIS, GO LIVE IN THE COUNTRY WHOSE FLAG YOU FLY ON YOUR AVATAR.


No matter what, you should always show respect to a disabled verteran.

A storm is coming,

Eye of Eagle







posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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Yeah! but the marine actually said in the video that the National Socialists were LEFTIST!

I'm sorry! but saying this is not a sign of proper education because it's simply not true! even if the name "National Socialists" are leading you to believe that they were leftist - they weren't!

Don't take this wrong! but spouting things like this at a townhall meeting make you look like a fool to the rest of the world who are watching this!

I really liked the guy for standing up to these pesky politicians but!...

National Socialists were Authoritarian Right-Wing on the political spectrum in Germany!

Soo please! before I have a nervous breakdown!


Tell all people that are going to these meetings that the National Socialists were not LEFTIST! - I don't understand why you all have been brainwashed into believing this?

They were frigging Authoritarian Right-Wing fascists!!

Peace!



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:55 PM
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What if he took a bullet in Iraq and came back and was denied Care because he had A.D.D before he left so they cancelled him... and now he has no money and no insurance and needs to take his kids to get a check up..

I bet he'd have a different change of tune.


Lots of what if's there buddy.

Stay in reality, where we all ened to be. Hypothetical doesnt help anyone



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:13 PM
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That Marine was dead-on. Never seen a Marine that couldn't hit the target, and he damn-well nailed that politician.

I note a number of those who are pro-Obama are from other countries.

Hey, if you want the SOB - for God's sake - come get him!

The Nazis were the National Socialist party, and they did exactly the same thing our current government is doing - taking over and nationalizing our currency, our banking systems, our insurance industry, our automotive industry, and now want to tackle out health industry.

While the National Socialists of Nazi Germany were in fact Facists, so are the clowns we have in our Federal Government.

Now I can tell you that their design is not going to stand. It will be reversed by ballet or bullet, and the sense in the nation is that increasingly, it doesn't matter which one they compel us to use.

This will not stand, and that Marine knows it too.

You think the Marine is wrong - you're dumb as a fence post.

Not a problem. It's nature's way to provide plenty of idiots, but an even greater number of sane, rational, prudent people.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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This guy is an idiot...
Another shill, recounting the insurance industries talking points.

Is there any critical thought left? This is about as profound as a hard on in a hussy house



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:25 PM
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Just because you are a Vet doesn't necessarily mean you receive your health care for the VA. That would mean that 24 million Vets get their care from the VA, that just isn't the case. I don't know the specifics in this case, but I know the vast majority of Veterans I know have other Health Care insurance as they don't like jumping through all the VA "hoops" to get care.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by dooper
That Marine was dead-on. Never seen a Marine that couldn't hit the target, and he damn-well nailed that politician.

I note a number of those who are pro-Obama are from other countries.

Hey, if you want the SOB - for God's sake - come get him!

The Nazis were the National Socialist party, and they did exactly the same thing our current government is doing - taking over and nationalizing our currency


Can you at least reference reality dooper?

"nationalizing our currency"???

and

NAZI



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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Nice try audas.

Who are the Union "shirts" that are trying to cause fights outside of these townhalls "representing"? Take a lookee at this one: oh and look, he actually HAS a brown shirt, what a coincidence.....

Look at 2:59 for that great American.




posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:45 PM
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Your wrong as well so apparently you need to learn some history too. First the the Nazis were fascists so trying to define them by left or right is silly. Lets look at what they wanted shall we?

The National Socialist Program was developed to formulate the party policies of, first, the Austrian German Workers Party.The program championed the right to employment and called for the institution of profit sharing, confiscation of war profits, prosecution of usurer's and profiteers, nationalization of trusts, communalization of department stores, extension of the old-age pension system, creation of a national education program of all classes, prohibition of child labor, and an end to the dominance of investment capital.German Nazism was closer to Russian communism than to any other non-communist system.

Now once Hitler got this off the ground next came a dictatorship this is a common end result Venezuela comes to mind.Once the government regulates all aspects of someones life it inevitably leads to one person controlling every aspect of a persons life. A Nazi would have there jobs picked for them the education system was set up for the needs of the state and regulated every aspect of the German peoples lives. And currently the government is saying alot of the same things the Nazis did to gain power.For example banks are evil industry needs to be regulated there needs to be a national health care system. And what scares the hell out of me is the conditions occurring in the United States is close to the conditions the Germans were experiencing after world war 1 unemployment rising massive debt and lets not forget isolationism which I'm hearing more and more here.

Was he inaccurate comparing the government policies to Nazis Id argue no there are similarities let us hope it just doesn't go as far as it could.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by pavil
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Nice try audas.

Who are the Union "shirts" that are trying to cause fights outside of these townhalls "representing"? Take a lookee at this one: oh and look, he actually HAS a brown shirt, what a coincidence.....

Look at 2:59 for that great American.



The shirt correlation is profound it must mean something...

Oh yes, the man on the video systematically helped exterminate millions of people.

Glad we have a solid foundation for discussion thanks to you.





posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Cito



No the point is that you are the victim of propaganda - you have absolutely no idea what so ever about what you are talking about - you are just sprouting catch phrases - "liberty, tyranny, Nazism, Freedom - yaaaah!" You have no idea - none. And yet you are engaging in some of the most dangerous vocabulary and supporting actions which are so extreme that in almost every sense they the absolute opposite of what your country stands for, of what your sonctiution is about - you simply dont understand th slightest thing you are talking about - My question to you is WHY wont you try and find out the truth instead of just chanting slogans provided to you by the propagandists ? Wouldn't it be better to maybe find out the truth ?






Dude you need to chill, claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about?

I could spout off my education in the subject and what I do for a living. But it's clear you must just be trolling. I know what I am talking about and clearly it seems you are the one being ignorant here.



Sad that when anyone asserts their rights they get attacked and called uneducated.


I support what the man said, I also agree with less government, removal of the fed res, and the return to constitutional law. And you just wanna troll someone for an argument.

Why don't you return to 4chan since all you want to do is name calling.





[edit on 8/24/2009 by Cito]


Not udnerstanding simple politics is not a right, not knowing what is going on or understanding history is not a right - its stupid - you simply do not understand what is being said - pure and simple - you have the opportunity to understand by asking - or you can remain ignorant and stupid - the choice is yours - just ASK - please tell me the truth.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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That's right don't answer the question I posed.

Audas was the one who mentioned the Brownshirts, first not me.

FYI the Brownshirts didn't make it the extermination years, they were sacrificed for the good of the Nazi Party, Hitler didn't like rivals very much. Night of the Long Knives


[edit on 24-8-2009 by pavil]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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Who is this guy, how is this related to calling people Nazis - ridiculous post - absolutely no relevance.

There is no doubt that the extremist accusations are coming from the right wing loons - to say otherwise is just a denial or reality.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by audas
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Who is this guy, how is this related to calling people Nazis - ridiculous post - absolutely no relevance.

There is no doubt that the extremist accusations are coming from the right wing loons - to say otherwise is just a denial or reality.


No relevance when you yourself accuse one side of Brownshirt tactics, yet when I show you someone actually using thug tactics against protesters of Obama, you call them "right wing loons" and extremists???????

Just whose side do you thing those two gentleman were in support of?? It's pretty obvious they were NOT in support of the protesters.

That's right, just a ridiculous post, that event never happened right?

You keep believing that...

freedomeden.blogspot.com... thugs-new.html

waltjr.wordpress.com... elping-obama-on-health-care/

[url=http://www.narbosa.com/2009/08/seiu-union-thugs-cause-violence-at.html]http://www.narbosa.com/2009/08/seiu-union-thugs-cause-violence-at.html[/ur l]


Looks like the SEIU is the one causing most of the violence, not the right wing loonies.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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It does you no good to get into heated arguments with people who are staunch supporters of Obama.....

You can make an offhand comment in jest about the shirt, and they will use that to slander you and deflect,like in the above post, instead of addressing the situation directly.

When you present them with evidence, they will either not respond, or start attacking someone else. I see it all the time.

Ive read through the bill at least part of it, still working on it, i know what it states and the huge loopholes there in that leaves the government room to do all manner of things that will hurt citizens and private industry.

Definition of Nazi
2 often not capitalized a : one who espouses the beliefs and policies of the German Nazis : fascist

Fascism
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition


My fellow devil dog may have been a little off with the "socialist" comment, but his point was well directed and well taken. In fact given the definition of both of these "terms" it looks pretty damn accurate.


audas
Want to argue, argue facts......dont attack the people on this board just because you dont like whats being said.

[edit on 25-8-2009 by ManBehindTheMask]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:11 AM
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Sorry there is no context here - what so ever - further my issues are with those using Nazism as an issue - where does this guy use Nazism ? He doesn't in fact THE ONLY point at which it is raised is by you becuase he HAPPENS TO HAVE A BROWN T_SHIRT ON - seriously you are simply backing up my arguments here.



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Nazism? lol how bout you look up my post on the definition of Nazi, and that will lead you to fascism

That will in turn make it pretty clear. You have a group like the ones associated with the president (The Unions,Acorn, SEIU etc etc etc), using brute force to silence the protesters and town hall meetings, guess what that is?

[edit on 25-8-2009 by ManBehindTheMask]



posted on Aug, 25 2009 @ 12:29 AM
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No one, and I mean even the most right wing Fox commentator is denying that it is the right wing which is destabilising these meetings, you have provided an instance of unrully behaviour by someone who may, or may not be an Obama supporter - the fact remains however that the vast majority of the activity is being carried out by right wing agendas - for ever video you put up of some crack pot, I will put up a dozen of right wing crack pots.

The theme of all of this is that it is the right wing which is accusing Obama of Nazism - which is simply the greatest lie ever perpetrated - it is disgusting.

In fact you freely admit to trying to create an environment of propaganda and fear based on lies and disinformation - so you absolutely agree with me that you have an agenda and it is based on spurious ideas, disingenuous information and totally lacks verisimilitude.


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