U.S. Marine Stands Up for Our Rights Against Congressman – video

well minor correction. i do have medical insurance benefits but not medicare or medicaid, but i rarely use them because i prefer to deal with my health issues myself, when possible. that's irrelevant though, since i still support the folks who paid into the system AND the folks who are too poor or ill to pay into the system. i'm for a happy resolution for everyone, not just for some people, but for everyone. i don't see why this is an issue or that it is unfeasible. nothing is unfeasible...well almost nothing.

He did have notes, why didn't he go into specifics about freedoms lost, and go through in bullet list form.
would have been more compelling.

Originally posted by kozmo

As anyone can see, the people are getting extremely pissed off. If this government believes that it can continue to push its wildly unpopular agenda upon us with repercussion, it has another thing coming - and it won't like it one bit!!!

It's all part of the grand scheme. Polarize the nation and get a civil war going. They failed to do this before, but they'll keep hammering at it until they divide.

Just remember:

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

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bravo and applause to that man for speaking the truth

what i find truly interesting though

is that for the most part, it seems the military is completely aware of the crap our government is feeding us

many people wonder if when the shtf will the military be on the peoples side or the governments side

from what ive seen we the people dont have to worry about the military going up against the people

but the ones who worry me are the cops

they sure seem to be the governments little lap dogs that yap away at the people constantly

This Marine Corps Veteran is a fine example for young men and women all over America. Thank god we have people like him to stand up, and speak out against the socialist policies of the Obama Administration. I thank you for your service, you are a quality citizen.

Great video!

finally! the American people are getting pissed and are standing up and are making these worthless politicians speechless!

Even if I'm not an American it's nice to see the people voice their concerns to these corrupted politicians!

One thing is bothering me though! the brave marine in the video said that the National Socialists were LEFTIST!

Well that is not correct even if the name can lead you to think so!

They were 'Authoritarian Right Wing' on the political spectrum in Germany, they actually hated the Socialists, Social Democrats and the Communists and sent most of them to concentration camps.

The cousin of my grandfather was sent to Dachau for being a Social Democratic party official, but was fortunately released after one year through some high up connections in the Nazi-party who were friends with the family.

Many of them weren't that lucky to survive til the war ended 1945 though! some of them died of beatings and diseases and other were even shot & killed in the concentration camps, Labour camps etc.

So it would be better if those people like that brave marine got this fact right! otherwise the pesky & corrupted politicians could just laugh them off as being 'nutters' and 'lunatics'!

I'm only saying this because I think it would be a pity if this "wrong fact" could make this popular rising of the people and the brave marine look like fools in the eyes of the corrupted politicians and in the International media who are reporting this - it doesn't look so good! International people & media could think that the 'Americans' are uneducated and stupid if they hear them saying this "wrong fact"

I hope I didn't offend anyone with this remark, but I would hate to see this popular rising of the American people being ridiculed by the corrupted politicians and foreign media!


Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter

Als sie die Juden holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Jude.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestierte

(Friedrich Gustav Emil Martin Niemöller)


with best regards!


[edit on 24-8-2009 by Chevalerous]

This guy is total moron. Has no idea what he is talking about, simply stands up and starts accusing people of being Nazis - WTF ? Claims he is a marine, but then just walks out without waiting for a reply - what an absolute coward of the highest order - absolute MOB mentality.

Questions the guy on accusation of comments regarding Brown Shirts - and then goes on to do exactly what Brown Shirts did - but has the audacity to sink tot eh depths of hypocrisy and accuse the speaker of Nazism.

People on here are applauding this kind or obscenely moronic behavior - you have no idea how base, how incredibly moronic and intellectually mundane this type of thing is - it is absolute red neck paradise - stupidity of the highest order.

Who amongst you here actually KNOWS what the Brown Shirts were, how they started out, how they were used ?

Well while you ALL run off to look it up - it was to do trite things like this, to raise trouble, to shout people down, to stop them having civil debates with accusations, propaganda and general anti-social behavior - exactly what this moron is doing.

He did not walk out! people not even paying attention to video, he went up to his wife in the back gave her a kiss and stood there. The video went off at the kiss, but he went to the front. Then when finished he went to his wife.

He did not leave.

Problem is we don't have the full video showing the reply.

The guy was right though Pelosi calling "right wingers" nazi's when she herself is pushing a socialist agenda. Welcome to the National Socialist government everyone. Heck both republican and democrat is the same party nowdays anyhow.

And major kudos to this guy for stating the truth. I applaud him.

Originally posted by Cito
He did not walk out! people not even paying attention to video, he went up to his wife in the back gave her a kiss and stood there. The video went off at the kiss, but he went to the front. Then when finished he went to his wife.

He did not leave.

Problem is we don't have the full video showing the reply.

The guy was right though Pelosi calling "right wingers" nazi's when she herself is pushing a socialist agenda. Welcome to the National Socialist government everyone. Heck both republican and democrat is the same party nowdays anyhow.

And major kudos to this guy for stating the truth. I applaud him.

Tell me what is the difference between socialism and communism ? What is the difference with fascism ? Do you really know or are these just catchphrases you've picked up along the way.

Do you realize that the Nazi party INVENTED propaganda - it was their bedrock - and using nationalistic fervor was their cause celebre. National socialism - really - they were fascists, not socialists, they were allied with the Mussolini - they attacked Russia and saw them as their mortal enemy. Learn your political theory, and learn your history.

Further the guy stood up at the front - you can see it, and as his question was being responded to he WALKED AWAY - did not even stand there to listen to the response, and YES this was the tactics of the Brown Shirts as I have pointed out. It is the actions which allow us to make the comparisons not the accusations - merely accusing someone of Nazi like behavior is irrelevant - when you display Nazi like behavior, as this moron did - then the charge is valid.

He is the epitome of a Brown Shirt. Do some research.

at end of video he walks up the aisle to his wife and kisses her and stands there.

this has also been on the news. He didn't walk out.

sheesh


The guy was awesome and the majority, of people in the video, has shown their support for what he said in the video. And there is a lot on here that agree with what the man said.

I also agree. And if you do not agree with what he said then that's fine. I for one disagree and am glad more people are feeling like him.



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You can agree all you want - so can the mob in the hall - but can you understand what is being said in relation to the facts of history and the reality of political theory - he is merely sprouting populist rhetoric and right wing propaganda - how about you actually try and understand the TRUTH behind this type of things rather than merely falling back on psychological misconceptions ?

You can get all warm and fuzzy as you like - but what he is saying is simply false, it is not based in any realm of truth or reality, his conception of Nazism and Socialism is totally flawed - perhaps you can try and understand this as it is incredibly dangerous for this type of thing to be happening out of ignorance.

Why dont you at least TRY ?

I'm not talking about nazis

im talking about what the man said was good. About as annoying as Pelosi calling all right wingers nazi's, and him throwing that back in Pelosi's face showing 2 can play that game, I support.

The man said what a lot of us are feeling after being labeled nazi's for wanting to defend our constitution.

and for that I say Bravo to the man.

2 can definitely play the rhetoric game.

And as these town halls are proving, the people in the US are tired of the government's b.s. propaganda campaigns and are starting to see right through it.

Originally posted by Cito
I'm not talking about nazis

im talking about what the man said was good. About as annoying as Pelosi calling all right wingers nazi's, and him throwing that back in Pelosi's face showing 2 can play that game, I support.

The man said what a lot of us are feeling after being labeled nazi's for wanting to defend our constitution.

and for that I say Bravo to the man.

2 can definitely play the rhetoric game.

And as these town halls are proving, the people in the US are tired of the government's b.s. propaganda campaigns and are starting to see right through it.

But you are talking about nazis - the entire issue revolves around the issue - you have even stated so in your reply.

Hence - the comparison to Nazis is that the Brown shirts were stirring dissent through propaganda - EXACTLY what the right have been doing, Nancy Pelosi accused the right of carrying Swaskitas to meetings, and they have - this guy is raising the specter of Nazism, the right has been doing it consistently Nancy pointed that out - because its a FACT.

The fact is that you and the right have been accusing people of being Nazis when it is you and the right who behave exactly like Nazis - when it is pointed out that this is your tactic you accuse people of accusing you being Nazis - when that is EXACTLY what you have been doing ???

How can you not see this ? Almost every video on teh internet has right wing loons turning up with images of swastikas, Nazi slogans all over the place - just like this mental case has done in this video - and you claim it is in response to people pointing out that this is what you have been doing ? Simply pointing out the facts of your won behavior ?

Strange man.

Here she is - explaining what it is YOU DO - simply describing YOUR BEHAVIOUR


And this guy does EXACTLY what she has pointed out - and you do it too - it is not the left but the right that are Nazis - the Nazi party were vehemently opposed to socialism - it is the very antithesis of their doctrine - anyone who thinks otherwise is a total and utter MORON.

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IN case you are still unsure of just how sick - and I mean really SICK the right has become - here is one of the most extreme pieces of propaganda ever put forward - see if you can understand why - or - are literally that stupid you can not see a problem with this and agree with Fox news and their campaign of bile -



At least TRY and understand how this is absolute bull crap of the highest order, and why such blatant propaganda and lies is so incredibly dangerous and why the far right wing would reach for such an extreme campaign of accusations of Nazism, and Eugenics.

Open your mind one centimeter and the flood gates of reality will come flooding in.

ok so you are hopping on the badwagon calling the right wing nazis?


well if you wanna call me names then fine I'll be your nazi for you.



And as a right wing constitution loving patriot I say kudos to the marine for standing up and reaffirming our rights.

If I'm a nazi for believing in smaller government, the shut down of the federal reserve, politicians breaking constitutional law being tried for treason, and us getting back to government fearing the people not people fearing the government, then go right ahead and call me whatever you wish.

I support the constitution, and I'm a patriot, but as you so nicely put it anyone that does that is the bad guy according to you.

So I guess I'm a right wing extremist

lol

those that are against the constitution imo are the real morons.

That marine veteran is awesome! Makes me proud to be a veteran.

Obviously he was angry, but he did a great job of making his case.

The more the government services there are, the more dependent we become on government, and the less able to speak up we become. Not much difference between dependency and enslavement.

We don't really know who these characters are in power. There's no way to trust them. Whatever their questionable associations and background, it's clear they're building a National Socialist government. What better leader to disassemble the constitution and find it's loopholes than someone who studied constitutional law?

Originally posted by Cito
ok so you are hopping on the badwagon calling the right wing nazis?


well if you wanna call me names then fine I'll be your nazi for you.



And as a right wing constitution loving patriot I say kudos to the marine for standing up and reaffirming our rights.

If I'm a nazi for believing in smaller government, the shut down of the federal reserve, politicians breaking constitutional law being tried for treason, and us getting back to government fearing the people not people fearing the government, then go right ahead and call me whatever you wish.

I support the constitution, and I'm a patriot, but as you so nicely put it anyone that does that is the bad guy according to you.

So I guess I'm a right wing extremist

lol

those that are against the constitution imo are the real morons.

No the point is that you are the victim of propaganda - you have absolutely no idea what so ever about what you are talking about - you are just sprouting catch phrases - "liberty, tyranny, Nazism, Freedom - yaaaah!" You have no idea - none. And yet you are engaging in some of the most dangerous vocabulary and supporting actions which are so extreme that in almost every sense they the absolute opposite of what your country stands for, of what your sonctiution is about - you simply dont understand th slightest thing you are talking about -

My question to you is WHY wont you try and find out the truth instead of just chanting slogans provided to you by the propagandists ? Wouldn't it be better to maybe find out the truth ?

Originally posted by kozmo
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You wanna take that bet!?

I would gladly take that bet. Talking about it is alot different than actually facing it. Millions of americans...nope...maybe a few thousand...and the bill will pass whether you like it or not

Originally posted by Dbriefed
That marine veteran is awesome! Makes me proud to be a veteran.

Obviously he was angry, but he did a great job of making his case.

The more the government services there are, the more dependent we become on government, and the less able to speak up we become. Not much difference between dependency and enslavement.

We don't really know who these characters are in power. There's no way to trust them. Whatever their questionable associations and background, it's clear they're building a National Socialist government. What better leader to disassemble the constitution and find it's loopholes than someone who studied constitutional law?

Have you thought about getting some help ?

Do you really believe that trying to provide universal health care, in other words ending the suffering of millions of people who are unable to access medical help is some nefarious plan to end the United States constitution ?

Do you really think that because the system in place prevents millions upon millions of people having access to medical aid is somehow more American ? That the millions of people who suffer and die every year is more favorable than ending their suffering ? Do you really think that every other developed western country on earth is somehow a Nazi sympathizer because they don;t let their people suffer and die ? Do you really think that America, the richest country on earth is somehow greater and more just than all the other western nations, and many non western, nations because America allows their own people to die on the streets because they are too poor to afford health insurance ? No other country allows this to happen, all other countries protect and care for their people - are these countries Nazis ? Are these countries taking away peoples rights be proving vastly better health care to their people than America ?

Let me remind people - that this bill does not take away your insurance - it merely means every one will get help if they need it.

How is this wrong ?