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Topic started on 24-8-2009 @ 09:16 AM by Ignorance Denied
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I had to share this video with everyone, this guy is 100% right in what he says.. I also have a question, What will the people do if obamacare passes
into law?
Is it still possible to pass the obamacare bill, even with all the opposition?
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:30 AM by uaocteaou
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This cat is just another example of an idiot who has no clue what he's talking about.
He's a self described disabled Marine veteran, which means that he receives VA medical care, As we all know, that's a Government run medical plan.
So, it's okay for him, but nobody else should have what he benefits from?.. Clown.
Reminds me of the senior citizens who shout that they want the government to keep their hands off their medicare, LOL rediculous. Again, it's good
for them, but nobody else deserves it?.. Clowns.
Listen, I agree with free speech, but I also believe that if you are going to challenge or confront someone, you should also be required to know what
you're talking about, this fellow has no idea what he's talking about.
Anf to answer the OP's origional question about health care, OF COURSE, WE MUST HAVE A PUBLIC OPTION.
Oh, and if you are a receipient of Government run health care, you shouldn't bitch about others having an oportunity to benefit as YOU yourself
enjoy.
Now, let the uber-right flaming begin, I don't care.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:33 AM by kozmo
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This guy is my new hero!!!  I think we may have just found a new candidate for President! I absolutely and completely second every single thing
stated by this man! Wonderful find and thank you so much for sharing!
As anyone can see, the people are getting extremely pissed off. If this government believes that it can continue to push its wildly unpopular agenda
upon us with repercussion, it has another thing coming - and it won't like it one bit!!!
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:36 AM by kozmo
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Nice hammer and sickle  We obvious know here your coming from    If you'd like, I'd be more than happy to purchase you and your family
a one-way ticket to Venezuela where you can lap up all of the socialism that you'd like. But I've got some news for ya - it'll happen here in the
United States over my dead body - and the dead bodies of millions of patriots just like me!  You wanna take that bet!?
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:37 AM by tatersalad
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go go fellow devil dog. seems like this fella jar head has stopped drinking the kool aid and is now back in the game.
semper fi!!
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:43 AM by Scopeless
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that last statement about the nazis was pretty dumb and inaccurate.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:47 AM by kingoftheworld
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That is man is a disgrace to socialism and a true American Patriot who loves his country as much as the people who have died to keep it free as well
as the people who reside here. America is a one of kind country...Never before has there been a Country in the history of the world where the citizens
are soveriegn (well atleast they used to be :mad  . I think that America needs to take a 180 and go back to how things used to be when the country
was founded.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 09:54 AM by ChemBreather
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The reply from the congress man was: 'why do you say indoctrinating??'
was he pretending he dont know what is up, or dont he know for real ?  What ya'll think ! ?
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 10:44 AM by Unit541
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Originally posted by uaocteaou
He's a self described disabled Marine veteran, which means that he receives VA medical care, As we all know, that's a Government run medical plan.
So, it's okay for him, but nobody else should have what he benefits from?.. Clown.
Ok, now who's the one with no clue what he's talking about? He's a self described Marine vet. Never did he say disabled. Never did the VA come
up. Way to go though, the liberty you took in quoting him garnered you a couple of stars, undoubtedly from members who didn't actually watch the
video. I won't bother with the rest of your post, because if you would have quoted him correctly, the rest of your post is irrelevant.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 10:51 AM by marg6043
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reply to post by uaocteaou
He does, he knows what he is talking about.
My husband and I are under tricare humana government run insurance.
But the government run insurance for vets and retirees like my husband is already been promised to stay the way it is.
But we know better.
Retirees and Vets insurance will be one of the biggest target under Obama health care.
My husband and I oppose to the bills in congress for health care reform, because it doesn't specified where Retirees and Vet will be with this
bill .
Now you understand.
The same way that the bill doesn't specified where the money is coming to support it.
[edit on 24-8-2009 by marg6043]
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:02 AM by jimmyx
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FOX news, right-wing, blah,blah,blah......all these nazi, communist, socialist, nations have some type of universal healthcare....canada, japan,
england, france, sweden, finland, germany, belguim, netherlands, italy, spain, norway, denmark.
the problem with this marine, is that he has socialized healthcare right now with the VA. and the rest of us that have to pay premiums to hmo's
recieve rationed healthcare...i would like to see this marine go get himself some private insurance, where he will pay from 400 to 1000 bucks a month
in premiums depending on the size of his family. for many in this country, this can suck down the hole 20% to 50% of a persons net income a month.
these people are way, way over the top, to the point that they sound rediculous in their use of hyperbolic language.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:18 AM by x2Strongx
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What have you done for your country lately other than pay taxes?
This guy actually did something to preserve our freedom. That why there are benefits available to vetrans and Senior citizens who have paid taxes
their whole life.
When you do something to better this country other than sucking off the TeeT of liberty then you can complain.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:24 AM by soldiermom
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How do you know he doesn't have private insurance? Not all vets choose to go the VA route.
I applaud this marine for standing up for what he believes in. My favorite part was when he brought up the reference to brown shirts. The guys says,
"I never said that." And in the same breath said, "I apologized for that." Classic.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:30 AM by Rockpuck
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Originally posted by Scopeless
that last statement about the nazis was pretty dumb and inaccurate.
No it wasn't.
The Nazis really did take over the Financials, the Auto industries and the Healthcare industries......
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:30 AM by poedxsoldiervet
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As a vet I must say VA healthcare is substandard.. So i agree let there be a public option for all of the socliast in this nation... And when they
start Biotch about there health care we can all wink at them and say told ya so.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:32 AM by Rockpuck
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Calling the VA in any way "good" health care, excellent health care, or anything that he should be glad to get is a complete overstatement. It's
probably the best example of why the Government should NOT be in the business of health care.
It's an embarrassment.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 11:36 AM by marg6043
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That is no so, as long as you visit a veterans hospital, you get free health care.
But in my husband case and me, under run health care Tricare humanawe pay premiums and deductibles as private run insurance and when we need
to see a "specialist" outside our primary doctor it needs to be approved, so hey I have a very pretty idea how The propose
government health care bill will be run.
Read my lips, is not free
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 12:15 PM by rogerstigers
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Originally posted by Unit541
Ok, now who's the one with no clue what he's talking about? He's a self described Marine vet. Never did he say disabled.
Actually, he does. 1:58 in the video "as a marine, as a disabled vetran".
I applaude the guy standing up. People need to stand up and make their views known. My question is where the hell were these people when the Bank
Bailout was being done. Where were these people when the Auto Bailout was being done. Or to go back further in time, where were these people when it
was found, even admitted, that the executive branch ignored and/or manipulated intelligence to send valuable troops into a battle field we had no
business being in? Funny how people never stood up until it started to threaten their pocket books directly.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 12:23 PM by CanadianDream420
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No Offense to his salute or service but that imbecile is exactly why Obama has to go on T.V every few days to RE-EXPLAIN his HealthCare INSURANCE
Reform...
"Stay away from my kids" he says....
*sigh*
What if he took a bullet in Iraq and came back and was denied Care because he had A.D.D before he left so they cancelled him... and now he has no
money and no insurance and needs to take his kids to get a check up..
I bet he'd have a different change of tune.
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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 12:23 PM by octotom
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reply to post by uaocteaou
Just because he was in the military doesn't mean that he absolutely has to use his VA insurance. It's entirely possible that he has another, better
plan that he and his family use.
reply to post by jimmyx
Yes, here in Germany, there is "universal healthcare". The way that it works though is other than how you probably think. It's not free at all.
Everyone is required to get insurance [which the government doesn't run it either...the private insurance companies do. I bet that makes them
happy!]. Then, when you work, you simply have the money taken out to pay for the cost of the insurance. Rich people have a higher percentage taken
out from their earnings to cover the cost of unemployed and low income workers.
I don't know how it works in all the other countries, but, I'd bet it's the same or similar. [As a side note, due to the economic crisis, the
health insurance program here is running out of money as, not enough people are paying into it. That's a downside to universal healthcare that I
don't think I've ever seen anyone mention.]
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