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Customers call for Whole Foods boycott

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posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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Customers call for Whole Foods boycott


news.bbc.co.uk

It's the shop where wealthy American liberals buy their groceries.

But the American supermarket chain Whole Foods Market has found itself at the centre of a storm of controversy after its chief executive, John Mackey, wrote an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal presenting a free market alternative to President Obama's proposed healthcare reforms.

Mr Mackey began his article with a quote from Margaret Thatcher and went on to add that Americans do not have an intrinsic right to health
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posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 08:44 AM
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Sorry but I think this is proof of how dumb the average person is.

This guy was just giving his opinion, and a good one at that, and people all over are too dumb to understand it so they start boycotting it.

You only have the rights to keep your fruits of labor, after that it's up to you to do what you want with it.

Just being born on Earth doesn't guarantee you healthcare

People aren't very intelligent

If you search the web, this boycott is HUGE

but some people do understand
look here
buzz.yahoo.com...:wsj:3dc68617116594a0a68a133f2a347b74/John-Mackey-The-Whole-Foods-Alternative-to-ObamaCare

The comments show that some people are still intelligent
But they need to educate these dumb protesters

Here is the libertarian's article
online.wsj.com...

news.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

[edit on 24-8-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Sorry but I think this is proof of how dumb the average person is.
This guy was just giving his opinion, and a good one at that, and people all over are too dumb to understand it so they start boycotting it.
You only have the rights to keep your fruits of labor, after that it's up to you to do what you want with it.
Just being born on Earth doesn't guarantee you healthcare
People aren't very intelligent.


I hope you end up in a situation of no money & extremely sick, then see yourself crying for a right to healthcare.

Your the sort whom seem to think only being born to wealth gives you rights.

You are whats wrong with modern society.

[edit on 24-8-2009 by acrux]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by acrux
I hope you end up in a situation of no money & extremely sick, then see yourself crying for a right to healthcare.


Well thanks for that
My parents did raise me to save and take care of myself so i'm sure i'll be good, sorry to tell you


Originally posted by acrux
Your the sort whom seem to think only being born to wealth gives you rights.

You are whats wrong with modern society.


Actually I don't at all think only wealth gives you rights and I don't see how you could see that.

YOU are what's wrong with modern society

If you believe everyone has a right to healthcare then you believe govt. giving it to you.

That's what's wrong with modern society, we want mobsters to be our saviors. We want to entrust our rights, money and health to mobsters.

And you tell me I AM what's wrong with today?



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Yeah this is so PATHETIC because the owner pays 100% of His employees premiums for healthcare and pays a lot better for unskilled labor than other companies.. These liberals that are boycotting whole foods are pretty ignorant and didn't read the whole article did they? Wouldn't a company like this be a liberals wet dream? And another point its not just Liberals that shop at this store. I have went there on several occasions and I find it quite refreshing and a pleasant experience shopping at whole foods. I think its kind of pricey but sometimes its worth it to avoid the walmart crowd.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by acrux

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Sorry but I think this is proof of how dumb the average person is.
This guy was just giving his opinion, and a good one at that, and people all over are too dumb to understand it so they start boycotting it.
You only have the rights to keep your fruits of labor, after that it's up to you to do what you want with it.
Just being born on Earth doesn't guarantee you healthcare
People aren't very intelligent.


I hope you end up in a situation of no money & extremely sick, then see yourself crying for a right to healthcare.

Your the sort whom seem to think only being born to wealth gives you rights.

You are whats wrong with modern society.

[edit on 24-8-2009 by acrux]


If you are too poor to go to doctor and you are extremely ill, there are doctors who accept sliding scale payments already. The ER will have you fill out papers if you are to poor to pay now and pay for you. Everyone has the right to health care, you are right about that. The problem is your approach of blindly backing Obamacare is those rights will be took away from you. The government wants to take away your right to refuse medical insurance. They want to choose for you. Without your consent. If you don't like it,too bad, they will slap fines on you if you don't agree to roll over and give up your rights. If you feel so strongly about paying for everyone else's healthcare, then send me $1000 right now cause I need to go to a chiropractor. I bet your response will be NO. But the plan you are backing does just that. You will pay for my chiropractor. You will also pay for anchor babies, welfare bums, drug addicts and everyone else who made bad choices. Most of those draw welfare or similar benefits and pay no taxes. But the government will put extra tax on you to make up for them.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Thank You

I find it all so surprising that people just aren't thinking

It's like skimming an article or just reading the headline and then writting an essay on it as if they completely understand everything.

I don't get it

Ron Paul on Larry King Live on Healthcare


Part II, Look at the guy giving free care


Isn't this proof enough?

If Acrux says that he has the right to healchare then doesn't ohioriver have the same right to keep his money and not pay for Acrux's healthcare?

[edit on 24-8-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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I actually work for Whole Foods, almost 5 years now, and it always seems like John likes to stir up trouble. If people and customers want to boycott Whole Foods for HIS opinion, so be it! Frankly, we don't need you.

Good luck finding the highest quality organic and all natural foods at Publix or Winn Dixie! We, the employees, are well taken care of. They pay us well, and we have awesome medical insurance, which leads to happy employees, who in return are a delight with customers. When's the last time someone bent over backwards for YOU at your grocery store?

Anyways, not to keep pushing the company line here, but damn, John certainly knows how to stir up some controversy (and business) at the same time.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by ModernAcademia

You only have the rights to keep your fruits of labor, after that it's up to you to do what you want with it.



On this I have to disagree, see, we don't keep the fruit of our labor, actually we got the government at local and state level to take away a very substantial amount of it.

So the same way that the fruit of our labor is cut by government so we expect government to give something back for what we are forcibly giving away.

Tricky right, the fruit of our labors are used for government to do what ever they feel out of their arses to do.

So why we can not have a say so on how is spend.


See I want health care reform and I want the end of the private insurance monopoly.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
On this I have to disagree, see, we don't keep the fruit of our labor, actually we got the government at local and state level to take away a very substantial amount of it.

See I want health care reform and I want the end of the private insurance monopoly.


Fair enough, but I think your trying to go left and right at the same time.

You should seperate these two initiatives.

End govt. having anything to do with healthcare AND end the income tax.

You'd be more successful if you seperated the two.

[edit on 24-8-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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Yay! Another worthless debate where one side bashes the other, the other side retaliates and it goes on for pages and pages!

Gotta love the liberal-bashing though. It ranks up there with socialist-bashing as another tool of the pathetic American right-wing, which hopes to resurrect the dead body of Ronald Reagan to rule this pathetic country once again.

Health care is a right whether you think it or not. It's easy for a CEO to criticize health care reform when he/she makes more money than their employees and could probably afford better care.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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Is not separation when you have to take into consideration that we already are paying for government run health care.

Remember that you get your fruit of you labor and a percentage is taken without your consent for Medicare and Medicaid.

So you can not possibly separate them, the only reason I am oppose to Obama and whatever bills are in congress is because it doesn't specified how we are to pay for this new government run endeavor.

More dipping on our fruit of labor will be heading our way.

Still when it comes to the OP I have to say that I have not problem boycotting stupid people making stupid comments like John Mackey.

I understand that you opinion on the OP is very strong and follow a way of thinking, but I see it more broadly and I have a different view of the situation..

Remember if we all agree on everything it will no be any debates.


[edit on 24-8-2009 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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I think health care should be free. The taxes we pay should cover health care. They can even use the tax on cigerettes to cover some of the costs.

No one can help what happens to their body. People should not suffer simply because they are poor. Espically in this economy it is not just a few that are poor but more and more are becoming poor.

That is what is wrong with america; is making things so expensive that only the rich can afford certian things.

I think it is pathetic. I know of many people who have medical bills on their credit even with insurance. Something has to change. I am not for Obama's policy but I am for choice and free health care. I am for equal health care for all!



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:48 AM
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Americans are used to working for everything and paying for everything that the very notion of "free" health care riles them up, causes them to do illogical things (bring guns to health care rallies) and just generally march like the sheep they are.



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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Fruits of my labor in the form of taxes are used to fight wars I don't believe in. With black budgets, I can't even trace where the fruits of my labor are spent, to enrich war profiteers. It is illegal not to pay taxes.
Do I have the right to see where my tax dollars [fruit of my labor] is being spent?

Fruits of my labor are used to pay for insurance, then I have to fight to get coverage for a claim and lose because I can't afford fancy lawyers to challenge them.

Want peace? Work for justice.


[edit on 24-8-2009 by whaaa]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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After reading his article, if it were the outline of a bill in Congress I would support it. It basically deals with the reform that's needed while keeping the Government out of our actual care.

Why don't Liberals like this?

I s'pose because people still pay for their own health care.. I guess that's the thing it all comes down to, eh?

The fact that Liberals are now boycotting the company is seriously pathetic.. it's childish.. and it's down right embarrassing. It's their right to do what they will...



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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Actually it is not, people with power like the chief executive, John Mackey should be intelligent enough to understand that our nation is in battler between government and public over the health care bill, he knew that any comments he make will be scrutinized and dissected by opposition, just like any political opinion, he is crossing the line between his role as an executive and playing politics.

Yes he has opinions and he has the right to voice them, but he also should be prepare to the repercussions of his status and playing politics.

In other words he is an idiot.


[edit on 24-8-2009 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:03 AM
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How the hell do we know that all people who shop there are liberals?

This is the part that annoys me the most. You go by what an article says and basically parrot it every step of the way.

What if a conservative shops at Whole Foods?



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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read his article
he is far from being an idiot

He's just a smart libertarian with strong views.
Nothing wrong with that at all!!!!


In a debate in Reason Magazine among Mackey, Milton Friedman, and T.J. Rodgers, Mackey said that he is a free market libertarian.[10] He has said that he used to be a "democratic socialist" in college, but when he began a business and barely made money while being accused by workers of not paying them enough and customers of charging too high prices, he began to take a more capitalistic worldview and discovered the works of Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek and Friedman.[11] According to an article published in The New York Times on August 2, 2009, Mackey is an admirer of author Ayn Rand.
en.wikipedia.org...(businessman)



posted on Aug, 24 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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Arent you the same person always ranting that the US doesn't belong to Americans but the Native Americans?

Yet, when it comes to health care you insist that you should keep your money?

If that is the case, we get to keep what we earned.


First off, there is freedome of speech but not freedome from repercussions. He decided to make a bold statement.
He is free to say, people are free to react.

Fact is, this company makes money off of health products. Yet, they want to deny health coverage to millions.

Kind of ironic.

I dont' shop there anyways, they are way too expensive.




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