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I don't have schozophrenia, and I can control my dreams. I have been able to throw things across the room. I can control almost everything in my dream just by thinking about it. It dpends on how aware I am of the dream though.
Originally posted by CleverNameHere
reply to post by harvib
"It was very weird but very cool."
Hah, that's a great way to put it! It IS very weird, and very cool.
For me, though, I can't control what I see. I can make it do funny things, or make it leave, but I can never control how it shows up.
I'm unsure if it's the same for people without schizophrenia, when they have vivid dreams. Perhaps you're able to control everything in every way?
Originally posted by templar knight
I am fascinated by your dream experiences.
I am "normal" (whatever that means) but have a whole other world in my dreams. I often sense that I know specific people really well only to find as I wake up these people do not exist and I only conclude that I am a serial dreamer with these people. Likewise with places:
+ There is a specific hill with a lake near the top that I have visited on occasions in my adult life.
+ There are specific houses and streets, I instantly recognise and have had some connection with - again only to realise that they do not exist in the real world.
When I was young, I had many vivid dreams - there were some horror dreams but I found having control of the dream I could release myself from a dream by simply falling asleep in my dream. Also knowing that you are in a dream is a great release - you can do what you want to vanquish the bad dream. Even now (actually last week) if I get abad dream I wake up and visualise getting control back - getting rid of the "evil" while awake and about to fall asleep
Not sure if this helps - if you dream a lot, you may be able to use visualise techniques stringly as well.
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Originally posted by Puls4r
reply to post by SaturnFX
There is a issue/chemical imbalance in schizos brain that makes them proccess information different than normal persons, having delusions, disordered thinking, if the severity of disorder not be much "high" so they can disting fact from fiction, they can choose what "delusion thoughts" can be logical or not, because many delusional thoughts have some truth there so a great benefit is being able to "filter" them and make interesting conclusions. Usually schizophrenics proccess raw data better than normal people. For example most schizophrenics aren't fooled by hollow mask illusion like this video
[edit on 24/8/09 by Puls4r]
There is little doubt about the existence of a fecundity deficit in schizophrenia. Affected individuals have fewer children than the population as a whole. This reduction is of the order of 70% in males and 30% in females. The central genetic paradox of schizophrenia is why, if the disease is associated with a biological disadvantage, is this variation not selected out? To balance such a significant disadvantage, a substantial and universal advantage must exist. Thus far, all theories of a putative advantage have been disproved or remain unsubstantiated.
An approach broadly known as the anti-psychiatry movement, most active in the 1960s, opposes the orthodox medical view of schizophrenia as an illness. Psychiatrist Thomas Szasz argued that psychiatric patients are not ill, but rather individuals with unconventional thoughts and behavior that make society uncomfortable. He argues that society unjustly seeks to control them by classifying their behavior as an illness and forcibly treating them as a method of social control. According to this view, "schizophrenia" does not actually exist but is merely a form of social construction, created by society's concept of what constitutes normality and abnormality. Szasz has never considered himself to be "anti-psychiatry" in the sense of being against psychiatric treatment, but simply believes that treatment should be conducted between consenting adults, rather than imposed upon anyone against his or her will.
The concept of schizophrenia as a result of civilization has been developed further by psychologist Julian Jaynes in his 1976 book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind; he proposed that until the beginning of historic times, schizophrenia or a similar condition was the normal state of human consciousness. This would take the form of a "bicameral mind" where a normal state of low affect, suitable for routine activities, would be interrupted in moments of crisis by "mysterious voices" giving instructions, which early people characterized as interventions from the gods. Researchers into shamanism have speculated that in some cultures schizophrenia or related conditions may predispose an individual to becoming a shaman; the experience of having access to multiple realities is not uncommon in schizophrenia, and is a core experience in many shamanic traditions. Equally, the shaman may have the skill to bring on and direct some of the altered states of consciousness psychiatrists label as illness. Psychohistorians, on the other hand, accept the psychiatric diagnoses. However, unlike the current medical model of mental disorders they may argue that poor parenting in tribal societies causes the shaman's schizoid personalities. Commentators such as Paul Kurtz and others have endorsed the idea that major religious figures experienced psychosis, heard voices and displayed delusions of grandeur.
In many non-Western societies, schizophrenia may only be treated with more informal, community-led methods. Multiple international surveys by the World Health Organization over several decades have indicated that the outcome for people diagnosed with schizophrenia in non-Western countries is on average better there than for people in the West. Many clinicians and researchers suspect the relative levels of social connectedness and acceptance are the difference, although further cross-cultural studies are seeking to clarify the findings.
Originally posted by CleverNameHere
I can, however, move without using my body. I've floated above myself, unable to look down, but I could see that my legs were still on the bed, meaning my body hadn't risen.