Contrail/ Chemtrail Research Thread

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posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 08:03 PM
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Excellent idea! Count me in. Nothing noteworthy going on in the sky here right now. No contrails and very light clouds. Edited to add that I should probably mention that I'm in central Kentucky.

Temp: 71 F
Humidity: 74%
Dew Point: 59° F
Pressure: 30.04 in
Visibility: 10 Miles

Took these pics, even though there isn't much to see, lol.








And I just want to throw this in there, even though it may not mean anything whatsoever, but I do contract work for NOAA. I only work with historical weather data... I think it only goes back to the 1870's. Anyway, I've been noticing that they started keeping up with when weather conditions were favorable for contrails to form around the 1960's.





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posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Hey im willing to play but not sure how much help i can be in Nashville contrails are kinda rare but i guess maybe that in itself can help i guess.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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Adelaide over here in Australia is currently experiencing some severe weather from a cold front,heavy cirrus was apparently observed yesterday, and at about 25,000ft, conditions were, and still are, right for contrail persistence.

Adelaide Airports weather balloon for 2315z this morning



1003.0 4 16.2 9.2 63 7.33 330 14 289.1 310.0 290.4
1000.0 25 16.4 9.4 63 7.45 325 17 289.6 310.9 290.9
983.0 171 15.8 7.7 59 6.75 300 37 290.3 309.8 291.5
968.0 302 15.2 6.2 55 6.18 299 40 291.0 309.0 292.1
925.0 685 12.2 4.2 58 5.62 295 47 291.8 308.2 292.8
850.0 1387 6.0 2.2 77 5.30 300 52 292.4 308.0 293.4
769.0 2198 -0.7 -0.7 100 4.75 296 58 293.7 307.8 294.5
739.0 2514 -2.7 -2.7 100 4.25 295 61 294.8 307.6 295.6
728.0 2633 -3.5 -3.5 100 4.08 295 60 295.2 307.5 296.0
700.0 2942 -6.3 -6.3 100 3.43 295 57 295.5 305.9 296.1
683.0 3134 -8.5 -8.5 100 2.96 295 57 295.1 304.2 295.6
662.0 3375 -10.7 -18.4 53 1.36 295 56 295.3 299.7 295.6
656.0 3446 -11.3 -21.3 43 1.07 295 57 295.4 298.9 295.6
651.0 3505 -10.7 -27.7 23 0.61 295 58 296.7 298.8 296.8
641.0 3624 -9.5 -31.5 15 0.43 295 59 299.4 300.9 299.4
630.0 3758 -9.3 -29.3 18 0.54 295 61 301.1 303.0 301.2
596.0 4185 -12.3 -35.3 13 0.32 295 66 302.4 303.6 302.5
573.0 4486 -13.1 -44.1 5 0.13 295 70 304.9 305.4 304.9
524.0 5159 -18.1 -44.7 8 0.14 295 79 306.7 307.2 306.7
508.0 5392 -19.9 -44.9 9 0.14 295 87 307.3 307.9 307.3
500.0 5510 -19.9 -42.9 11 0.17 295 91 308.7 309.4 308.8
491.0 5645 -20.1 -51.1 4 0.07 295 96 310.1 310.4 310.1
462.0 6095 -20.7 -52.7 4 0.06 295 111 314.8 315.0 314.8
457.0 6175 -21.2 -53.9 4 0.05 295 114 315.2 315.4 315.2
423.0 6742 -24.5 -62.5 2 0.02 295 121 318.0 318.1 318.0
417.0 6846 -25.1 -64.1 1 0.02 295 126 318.5 318.6 318.5
403.0 7095 -23.5 -55.5 4 0.05 295 139 323.7 323.9 323.7
400.0 7150 -23.7 -54.7 4 0.06 295 142 324.1 324.3 324.1
395.0 7242 -24.3 -51.3 6 0.09 298 146 324.5 324.9 324.5
392.0 7297 -24.3 -35.3 35 0.49 299 148 325.2 327.1 325.3
391.0 7316 -24.4 -34.5 39 0.53 300 149 325.3 327.3 325.4
383.0 7466 -25.3 -27.7 80 1.03 299 150 326.0 329.8 326.2
376.0 7599 -26.3 -31.3 63 0.75 298 151 326.4 329.2 326.6
356.0 7990 -30.3 -33.1 76 0.66 296 155 326.2 328.7 326.3
349.0 8130 -31.3 -37.7 54 0.43 295 156 326.7 328.3 326.8
340.0 8315 -32.7 -43.7 33 0.23 295 157 327.3 328.2 327.3
300.0 9180 -40.3 -42.6 78 0.30 295 159 328.4 329.6 328.5
296.0 9271 -40.7 -43.2 77 0.28 295 158 329.1 330.3 329.2


Just to add, here at Woomera, we are getting the northern edge of the cold front, and as expecte, Im observing lots of thick cirrus clouds. Unfortunantly I got no air traffic at the moment, but I will take some photos shortly to show what Ive got.

Im also going to check and see if any contrails were present yesterday with a mate in Adelaide airport

Here's the synoptic situation at the moment. I would expect contrails to be visible over Victoria later todayas the front moves east, so if anyone is in Victoria, can you get snapping?



www.bom.gov.au



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 09:14 PM
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This is a great idea for a thread, Oz.

I'll snap a couple of photos and try my best to contribute.
If I find anything worth loading up, I'll try and help with some of the legwork on the weather info, but you're the expert.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Well, I am kinda new to this, I only found out what was going on about 2 months ago, when a friend started pointing them out to me. I thought she was nuts at first but then I realized that unless it was a psychosomatic reaction what she was saying was true so I will do my best to participate.

80.9 °F
Clear
Humidity: 34%
Dew Point: 48 °F
Wind: 0.0 mph
Wind Gust: 0.0 mph
Pressure: 29.81 in (Steady)
Heat Index: 80 °F
Visibility: 10.0 miles
UV: 1 out of 16
No chemtrails visible, but there is some smog.

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posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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the purpose of chemtrail would be to affect people, right? (cuz it sure aint to save the whales). and yet there are hardly ever any chemtrails in los angeles where as the sky is full of it over the rural town of palmdale- hour north east of LA and 2000 feet above. my theory had been that the trails above palmdale were ultimately aimed toward the LA basin. anybody care to comfirm this via wind direction research n whatnot? flouride in the water, chemtrails in the air.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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I am in Kentucky, Louisville to be exact.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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I don't think the purpose of this thread is to speculate about the purpose of chemtrails or how they might be "aimed". It is to look for correlations between upper air soundings (weather at high altitudes) and the appearance of persistent contrails (which are claimed by some to be chemtrails).

Unfortunately, living in a tropical tradewind regime, I'm probably not going to be able to contribute many observations. I observe contrails very rarely and usually only in early spring and late fall. But when I do see some I will be sure to report them.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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...and yet there are hardly ever any chemtrails in los angeles...


Because "chemtrails" are a myth...



... where as the sky is full of it over the rural town of palmdale...



Really? SO, these allegedly bad "chemtrails" aren't "sprayed" over the major metropolitan area of LA, but North, in the High desert....where, BTW, there are Military installations, and the Los Angeles ARTCC (Air Route Traffic Contorl Center) facilites are located???

Sorta throws the "chemtrail" theories all in disarray, huh? "Poisoning" jackalopes, are they??

Since you live in LA, you should know the prevailing surface winds are generally from the West, at least where LAX is located, near the beach and El Segundo. Hint: Airport runways are designed and BUILT to favor the normal wind direction.

Upper level, high-altitude winds are generally from the West as well, but like weather, they will differ from day to day, direction and velocity. So do humidity levels, temperatues, etc.

Lack of contrails is most likely because of the geographical location of LA, and other cities in California and elsewhere, relative to any air traffic transiting overhead.

There is a system of Mainland/Hawaii parallel tracks, anchored near the West Coast at various locations, so some Eastbound/Westbound flights that are on the tracks that transit the LA area might leave contrails, sometimes. OR, there are the largely North/South flights, from say, SAN to SFO, PDX or SEA (and others) that will pass overhead. AND pass over Palmdale....



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I'll see what I can find out. I have a friend who has been researching this and she is from Whittier. She isn't home right now but I left a message. Hopefully she can answer your question.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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here is one video that i took a couple weeks ago. this is from orange county new york.


[edit on 23-8-2009 by middleclasssoldier]



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:27 PM
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From: OZWeatherman

proposing is that we research the atmospheric conditions


what are some good sites for viewing satellite images of the weather?
thanks



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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Try to help and not hinder.

The result of this could actually change minds, including mine if weather conditions effect contrails/chemtrails.

You don't belong here if you're going to continue with the insults.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Originally posted by hotbakedtater
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I am in Kentucky, Louisville to be exact.


Thats close to Tennesee right?

The only problem, with Kentucky is that they dont have an upper air program, in the state. However, as Tennesee is directly to the east (or is it south), it would be the closet representation to Kentucky


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posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by middleclasssoldier
here is one video that i took a couple weeks ago. this is from orange county new york.


[edit on 23-8-2009 by middleclasssoldier]


Thanks for your contribution

Can yo give me the exact date and time this was filmed? Its necessary so I can check out the weather balloon data


[edit on 23/8/2009 by OzWeatherman]



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:15 PM
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I've taken some "chemtrail" photos myself, already posted (details) at:

www.abovetopsecret.com...


www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:18 PM
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On October 2, 2001, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) introduced the "Space Preservation Act of 2001" (HR 2977), which called for the elimination of "exotic weaponry" from space. Among the weapons to be banned were weather-modifying weapons such as HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) and chemtrails. Though HR 3616 was later amended to remove the section that would have banned chemtrails, the original bill acknowledging the existence of chemtrail technology remains on the pages of the Congressional Record.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:22 PM
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That bill was never passed, it has been addressed before, and just becuase chemtrails were named, does not mean that chemtrails exist.

Also, this post is off topic. If you have something to contribute, that would be great, but keep on track



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:44 PM
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I'll keep an eyeball out & report back if I see anything pertinent.

First thread of this kind I've seen here. A research thread, check your opinion at the door.

Good idea.


Maybe we can answer the questions once & for all.



[edit on 23-8-2009 by Satchmo Bevins]



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 11:59 PM
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Thats close to Tennesee right?


Yes, Kentucky is directly north of TN.





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