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reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 05:17 PM by spinkyboo
Just a little video on smart dust -



tankerenemy.blogspot.com...

EXPOSURE TO AERIAL EMISSIONS OF NANO COMPOSITE MATERIALS RESULTED IN CHOLINESTERASE INHIBITION



by Hildegarde Staninger, Ph.D., RIET-1, Industrial Toxicologist/IH & Doctor of Integrative Medicine. Integrative Health Systems, LLC, 415 3/4th N. Larchmont Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90004 Tel: 323-466-2599 Fax: 323-466-2774 e-Mail: ihs-drhildy@sbcglobal.net © September 7, 2009

Presented at the 2009 National Registry of Environmental Professionals Conference Oct 5-6th, 2009, Des Plaines, IL. Published NREP Journal of Environment and Sustainability.

ABSTRACT: Cholinesterase inhibition has been associated with exposure to oranophosphate and carbamate pesticides, since their creation during World War I and II. Traditionally, they cause severe neurological disorders that can paralyze not only insects but humans. Individuals are usually exposed by misuse of pesticide applications or through aerial spraying.

The cholinesterase inhibition effects for chronic exposure or multiple acute exposures are expressed in acetyl cholinesterase, enzyme (AChE) activities inhibition. The integration of nano particulates in various nano composite materials, such as aerial hydrogels and other similar materials used in aerial vector sprays, weather modification and sensor grids, resulted in the individual having as high as 96.2 % cholinesterase inhibition and detectable readings of nano composite materials present. Confirming Ocean University, China’s findings in the June 2009 issue of Chemical Sensitivities, that nano particles are 100 times more toxic than a single molecule of a pesticide, such as Malathion, propoxopur or benomyl.

Background: During the summer of 2007 in Phoenix, Arizona, a female age 51 was exposed to aerial spraying for weather modification and vector control (mosquito) as performed through G-1 requirements and Project Earth Scope1. She was at home and had her windows open and went outside of her home to see what was happening. She immediately felt a burning and tingling sensation and became ill.



The duration of symptoms depends partly on the rate of AChE reactivation. Spontaneous reactivation depends on the chemical structure attached to the enzyme. The reactivation of the inhibited enzyme can be facilitated considerably by special compounds (oxymes).

Several of these compounds have become important antidotes in the treatment of pesticide poisonings. The inhibition enzyme may also be transformed into a state where no spontaneous reactivation occurs and where oximes are no longer capable of reactivating it.

The phenomenon is called “aging” and is characterized by removal of one of the alkyl groups form the phosphoryl groups attached to the enzymes. The rapidity of inhibited AChE aging depends on the chemical nature of the phosphorylating materials. It must be noted that in the materials previously found by other patients exposed to advance nanomicrobic materials/nano particles phosphorus was present in other exposed individuals.

Over the last year the individual has experienced the following classical AChE symptoms with the appropriate site of action (target organ system): Site of Action Signs and Symptoms Eyes Increased lacrimation, slight myosis (occasional unequal, later marked, blurred vision, eye pain when focusing, frontal headaches, conjunctive hyperemia.

Respiratory System Rhinorrhea, hyperemia (local exposure), tightness in chest, Prolonged wheezing, bronchoconstriction, increased secretion, dispnea (not enough air), slight chest pain, cough, edema of the lung.


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reply posted on 19-12-2009 @ 10:46 PM by thunderabove
reply to post by OzWeatherman



it wasnt cold though. it was like.... october maybe. i was wearing shorts and a tshirt...



and that video does not work sir

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reply posted on 20-12-2009 @ 12:47 PM by Essan
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At 30,000ft?

Think about it - if you climbed a 30,000ft mountain (higher than Mount Everest) do you think it'd be as warm at the summit as it was when you set off at sea level?


reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 02:04 PM by weedwhacker
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it wasnt cold though. it was like.... october maybe. i was wearing shorts and a tshirt...


AND here, ladies and gentlemen, we see again the cognitive disconnect that is prevalent in these "chemtrail" arguments.

How many times must it be repeated?? WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE on the ground, in your t-shirt, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the atmospheric conditions that exist five or more miles above your head!!!!!

WHY don't rational, educated, and schooled people understand this simple concept and factoid????


reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 03:17 PM by melatonin
Not sure if this has been posted earlier, but here it is anyway, looks to still be under review:

Published online 21 December 2009 | Nature | doi:10.1038/news.2009.1157

News

How aircraft emissions contribute to warming
Aviation contributes up to one-fifth of warming in some areas of the Arctic.

The first analysis of emissions from commercial airline flights shows that they are responsible for 4–8% of surface global warming since surface air temperature records began in 1850 — equivalent to a temperature increase of 0.03–0.06 °C overall.
dinky-link

Looks to be mainly from black carbon, but they also attempt to model contrails. Thought it might be of interest here.

Many previous studies have assumed that the impact of aircraft emissions was the same everywhere. But the new analysis reveals that aircraft emissions increased the fraction of cirrus clouds where vapour trails were most abundant, and actually decreased the cirrus fraction in several locations by increasing the temperatures in the lower atmosphere, reducing the relative humidity in such locations.

If black-carbon emissions from aircraft could be reduced 20-fold, warming would be halted and a slight cooling would occur from plane-created vapour trails, Jacobson says.


Cheers.


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reply posted on 23-12-2009 @ 03:28 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by melatonin



Yes, mel.....no disputing the fact that the creation of contrails, which are, basically, indistinguishable from normally-occurring cirrus clouds, can contribute to the overall climate change scenario. The fact that high altitude jets make these "artificial" clouds isn't in doubt, either.

Were it not for airplanes traveling the stratosphere, the additional effects of the clouds' formation would not be obvious.

However, their contribution, per even you linky-dinky is minimal, but could be considered cumulative:

4–8% of surface global warming since surface air temperature records began in 1850 — equivalent to a temperature increase of 0.03–0.06 °C overall.


A temperature increase, OVERALL, of between 0.03-0.06 degrees C,

Again, while a contributing factor, no doubt, quite minimal compared to OTHER effects of human pollution activities.....


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 01:53 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by ZombieJesus



Hi, Zombie. If OZ has stepped away I thought I'd take a stab at this...

You question intrigued me, since those "donuts-on-a-rope" formations are fairly infrequent, AND a somewhat newish phenomenon. Most of the contrails I've seen in my career don't fit that description exactly --- the ones I see that are disrupted are mostly due to the sheering effects of the differing velocities and directions of the upper level winds at the time.

(That was an overly complicated way to say that the contrails formed in the choppy, turbulent air get broken up in weird ways, sometimes. And, their tendency to linger and morph into cirrus clouds depends entirely on the humidity and temperature, too).

Anyway, I looked on the Google-box and thought this was a good link, since it comes form the Airliners.net Tech Forum.

FWIW, I'm leaning towards some exotic and advanced propulsion designs, being tested, and likely either military in origin, or something proprietary, but possibly funded by military budgets somehow.

Link: www.airliners.net...


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 05:43 PM by ZombieJesus
reply to post by weedwhacker



Thanks for the response weed

Hell, I wish it was the donuts on the rope contrail from some super secret plane, I would love to see something Im not supposed to see, but I doubt thats what this was unfortunately

I guess what was strange to me was how subtle it was. When I first saw the contrail, I didn't think anything of it, but as I watched it is when I noticed the phenomenon.

Now that I look at my last post, I probably could have described it a 'lil better.

The best way I can describe it, is it looked more like veins bulging on a flexed muscle, or like vines growing up around a tree.

I know thats probably a crappy description, but its all I can really think of to compare it to.

These "veins" were not present when I first looked at the contrail, but manifested shortly after, and disappeared after about half a minute to a whole minute or so.

The other reason why Im doubting something awesome like project Aurora or TR-3B, is because the contrail was not fresh, as I noticed it from a distance a few minuted before I got a better view.

So all in all, basically I saw a regular contrail that had been persisting for a few minutes already, contrail flexes it muscles and pops its veins out (weird description, I know, lol), contrail un flexes, and then contrail blows on its merry way into a thin little cloud.

Anyhoot, hope that description helps a little more.

Thanks again!


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 05:56 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by ZombieJesus



Well, with that explanation it seems likely that you saw the contrails being ffected by the tip vortices. Vortices can hang about for some time, they tend to spread out laterally, slightly, after formation and wil sink a little (about 300 feet, or so) from where they're formed.

Here, this video is a graphic depiction, although of course it's exaggerated due to the testing apparatus, and the quantity of smoke.

(Speaking of 'smoke', you'll notice how much "dirtier" the military jets' engines are, usually, than modern passenger jets. Partly to due with engine design, and also with the different fuels used. Olde passenger jets, like the B-707, 727, the DC-8, etc, with turbojet engines instead of the more eficient turbofans burned less "cleanly" too...)



But, I DO love the smell of burning Jet-A in the morning...


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 06:11 PM by ZombieJesus
reply to post by weedwhacker



I think you nailed it on the head there friend

I'd give ya a beer, but thats kinda hard via the interwebs, so I hope a star will suffice, lol.

I've read about wingtip vortices, but never took the time to look for any vids.

After watching that, Im leaning towards your explanation.

Thats kind of a trip how the spirals are delayed like in that clip, but makes sense of what I saw, especially since the plane leaving the contrail was going significantly faster than the plane in the clip, so the spirals would be delayed for a longer period of time.

Thanks for helping me out weed



But, I DO love the smell of burning Jet-A in the morning...


Amen to that

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reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 06:24 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by Sf18443



Beautiful chemtrails, there.
Makes the horizon 'smoggified'!!!


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 06:27 PM by ZombieJesus
reply to post by Clearskies



Since Oz and weedwhacker are out for the moment, let me see if I can help.

The next time you go outside and do not notice any contrails at all, come back to this thread and provide your location, date and time, and we will be able to see if persistent contrails are likely in your area, via weather balloon soundings.


Is there ANYWHERE contrails aren't occurring?

In America?


I'm sure that there are lots of places where contrail aren't occurring, in America, and all over the world.

If you would like to sift through weather soundings, be my guest, but it would just be easier to check the soundings for your area when you do not see any contrails.

And btw, just because the data suggests contrails are likely to persist or not, does not always mean thats what is going to happen.

Heres a start for ya:

Appleman Chart

Atmospheric Soundings

Hope this helps


reply posted on 29-12-2009 @ 06:33 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by ZombieJesus



Let me then tell you where they are not;
Follow Obama around, they probably won't be there(especially the ones(persistent) that bloat FOREVER)
also that may be other big players as well! I bet Copenhagen has no smoggy-lined sky, right now!

I noticed when our smog pollution began, when bush, at al, were downwind, it was pristine.
Obama hasn't been near Atlanta lately?
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