****Mind Blowing 1958 speech (video)****

I'm not sure if this guy founded the John Birch Society, or if he is just part of it. It was pretty profound that these people could see what the goals of the U.N. and other supra national groups were, even 50 years ago.

Too bad this group failed to achieve their goals.

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He was among a handful of people who knew, presumably first hand, the 'objectives' of the elite decision-makers of the world.

No one listened then..... hardly any listen now.

The stigma of the John Birch Society paints all such words with pre-imposed bias.

It's a great speech and I wish more people would listen to it, just so I could say "I told you so!" when the time comes.

[edit on 23-8-2009 by Maxmars]

Fan-tas-tic!

Star and flag doesnt do this thread or speech justice..

How can we get this video on the front page of ATS?

Anyone have any "mod connections"...

Seriously, awesome...

reply to post by downtown436


Thanks for posting
I had never seen this before

s/f

reply to post by warrenb


Great Video! Thanks.
Read "Financial Terrorism" by John F. McManus (1993) of JBS. That was my first exposure to this plan.

reply to post by Maxmars


Well today was the first I had seen it, and I was blown away.

Bitter-Sweet realization is what I gather from this video.

Sweet that my research seems to correlate, and bitter that he died two years after realizing he'd been beaten so badly. Truly unfortunate this didn't have the capability it has now for grass roots movements...

We should all Star and Flag this thread.

Originally posted by open_eyeballs
Fan-tas-tic!

Star and flag doesnt do this thread or speech justice..

How can we get this video on the front page of ATS?

Anyone have any "mod connections"...

Seriously, awesome...

It's pretty easy really. It just needs 5-6 more flags, and it will be there.

reply to post by warrenb


You got it buddy. Thanks for the s&f.

reply to post by lagnar


Yeah, I mean it was spelled out in plain English, back then. Too bad they didn't have the world wide web.

Well, better late than never. I have bombed everyone on my e-mail list with this video. We really need to get some peoples attention on this video.

Americans are so wrong in a lot of things:

1) the Obama administration are not Nazis.
2) universal health care is good - America is quickly deteriorating to a 3rd world country. If you don't give universal health care to your citizens, expect great poverty and ultimately a revolution.
4) the UN is not out to get you. The UN is necessary for peace on Earth. The UN may have done some bad things the last few years, but they are greatly exaggerated by American media.
5) poorness is not only due to one's stupidity. There are social factors in play as well.
6) a patriot defends his own land, not his own interests in foreign lands.

If the US does what the video suggests, i.e. stop caring about the other nations, then the world's problems will escalate tenfold. The terrorist acts inside US soil will be tripled, and many wars will be started around the world. Rogue nations will get nuclear arms. And all these problems will lead to a third world war, from which America can not escape.

reply to post by masterp


No personal attacks here but... I think your way off the mark, everything he says is the direction that the us govt. should have taken decades ago I bet the world would be a completely different place... But that's just my opinion against yours.

OP, I agree with you on one point - the points made in that video about the supposed UN agenda for world conquest were made over half a century ago, and could have been made today. While you might see this as a confirmation of the beliefs of the JBS, I think it's really the opposite - the Birchers believed that the international communist conspiracy was on the verge of taking over the US government, imprisoning patriots, confiscating guns, and so on.

What on Earth have they been doing for the last 50 years?

It's the same old doom five decades removed, and disconfirmed as far as is humanly possible - taxes have gone down since 1958, not up; the Communist world powers have fallen into either irrelevance (Cuba), nominal democracy (Russia), or a bastardized totalitarian capitalist-Communist hybrid that no longer resembles actual Marxism in any way outside their own propaganda (China); and the UN is utterly toothless and its mandates are freely ignored by everyone.

The supposedly all-powerful cabal of Communists bent on world domination has done nothing in 50 years' time besides collapse on itself - and yet people are still spouting the same line about doom being just around the corner. Does this not seem odd to anyone else?

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reply to post by downtown436


Great video!!

I posted this before, but it coincides with your thread as well:

Slowly the left, with its incessant drum beating of environmentalism, and the right with its so-called "free trade" agreements have been pushing us to a one world government since WW2. They have been doing this because they naively perceive that the world will have less wars, and cooperate better.

There ARE important reasons WHY we AMERICANS should never move towards this goal.

1) If we agree with a one world government we thereby MUST relinquish our CONSTITUTION for a newly drafted world constitution.

2) Those in the echelon of society the oligarchs, the elites within nations even among the poorest nations will CONTINUE to consolidate and amass power, because of the lack of FREE MARKETS and ability for capital and labor to freely move, because one world means one STRICTLY CONTROLLED MARKET.

The video below is taken from cross fire back in May of 1983, the John Birch Society is discussed and is talked about why THEY were pushed out of the GOP, because they were of the OLD right which believed in NON-interventionist foreign Policy. In fact, people like William F. Buckley (former CIA, CFR) so loathe the OLD right's message of NON-INTERVENTIONIST foreign policy that they did a hatchet job on the John Birch Society and its Director at the time Robert Welch, because Welch wrote, in his famous book on Dwight Eisenhower, The Politician, dared exposed Allen Dulles and the Central Intelligence Agency as constituting a clear and present subversive danger to the rule of law and America’s long-standing non-interventionist foreign policy tradition articulated by Washington, Jefferson, and the Framers. When in 1964 Welch and his Old Right group, the JBS, adapted their famous slogan, “Get Us Out,” (originally referring to getting the United States out of the United Nations) to getting the US out of Vietnam, that was the last straw. The CIA’s phony conservative movement, spearheaded by Buckley’s National Review magazine, marshaled its big guns to drive the Birchers out of Dodge. National Review had been founded by WFB, James Burnham, Willmoore Kendall, and William J. Casey, all with backgrounds in the intelligence community.

Google Video Link

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reply to post by downtown436


Nice. There it is... front page. If this video is not more telling and is not able to get people to realize the path America has been on then nothing will...

There should be some kind of favorite threads section where people could nominate videos and topics and such. This would definitely be one of my nominations...

Originally posted by masterp
Americans are so wrong in a lot of things:

1) the Obama administration are not Nazis.
2) universal health care is good - America is quickly deteriorating to a 3rd world country. If you don't give universal health care to your citizens, expect great poverty and ultimately a revolution.
4) the UN is not out to get you. The UN is necessary for peace on Earth. The UN may have done some bad things the last few years, but they are greatly exaggerated by American media.
5) poorness is not only due to one's stupidity. There are social factors in play as well.
6) a patriot defends his own land, not his own interests in foreign lands.

If the US does what the video suggests, i.e. stop caring about the other nations, then the world's problems will escalate tenfold. The terrorist acts inside US soil will be tripled, and many wars will be started around the world. Rogue nations will get nuclear arms. And all these problems will lead to a third world war, from which America can not escape.

1) They are certainly socialist like the Nazi's. So you are right they are not Nazi's, they are what the nazi's would be if they were in modern day America.
2)No, actually I like my health care just fine thank you.

4)The U.N. is a waste of our money, and a tragic loss of our sovereignty.

5)Yeah, including laziness.

6)Good Job, you got this one exactly right. (even though it contradicts your #4 statement)

great speech.

I don't really have anything to add, just a big THANK YOU for bringing it to our attention!

Reminds me of the video on ATS a few months ago from 1985:

reply to post by Disinfo Agent


When I read things like this, I'm always reminded of a familiar saying..."the greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he doesn't exist"

reply to post by Odessy


That vid you posted is another incredible example of what we are becoming. Great post, star for you.

reply to post by newgeneric

You have to admit, when people 50 years ago were saying "sure, everything looks fine, but those commies at the UN are gonna launch their global takeover REAL SOON! ANY DAY NOW! JUST WAIT!", and people today are saying the exact same thing, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they're right.

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