eBay seller releases video of 'Obama birth certificate'

I've captured this video, rotated it, slowed it down, applied some enhancement filters, and zoomed-in at key times. It's in the process of compressing at ultra-high-quality for a media server and I'll upload shortly. Stay tuned.


edit to add...


The enhanced video is now posted here:
Barack Obama "Kenyan Birth Certificate?" - Enhanced Lucas Smith Video

[edit on 23-8-2009 by SkepticOverlord]

reply to post by SkepticOverlord


Cool, I watched it again, this time I noticed he had latex gloves on, the foot print seems to dark.

Lucas Smith


Writer, Nutrient Analyst and Engineer.
Kenya

www.google.com...

----NOTE 08.02.2009 - Please see my eBay account homepage. There is a link in the upper right hand corner here on my Google profile page. Please review my latest eBay feedback. You'll notice that I was able to purchase US President John F. Kennedy's birth certificate (eBay item # 120127227415). You'll also see that I was able to purchase Babe Ruth's birth certificate (eBay item # 120205547295). I have purchased several different birth certificates on eBay within the last two weeks. Please ask yourselves why it was that eBay removed my auction for US President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate? Why did eBay go on to also remove my auctions for stories, dissertations and photos regarding Obama’s birth place? What was eBay trying to hide? Could it be the same thing that US President Barack Obama is trying to hide? Ask yourselves these questions. You can also use the link below. Thank you.

feedback.ebay.com...

Found this.




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Firstly, I can't believe you're feeding this fantasy. I guess site traffic rules over common sense now.

And if I have to comment on the birth certificate, all the dates are in the wrong format. Kenya was a British colony / protectorate. Their date formats are DAY/MONTH/YEAR so this was signed by the registrar on 8-7-1961 which is July 8, 1961 - the month before Obama was born. It's SO fake.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Firstly, I can't believe you're feeding this fantasy.

Do you understand the whole idea of conspiracy theory? It's something I haven't always understood, but I recently came to the realization that some people are thrilled with ANY conspiracy that comes up. Just so they can look into it and either debunk it or prove it valid.

SO is in a difficult position in that no matter WHAT steps he takes, he will be criticized for taking a side. I certainly cannot speak for him, but it is my STRONG belief that his participation here is to give MORE information to the members, NOT to take a side. And the accusation that he is "feeding this fantasy" is incorrect. Nowhere does he state either belief or disbelief in this theory. That is in YOUR head.

I guess site traffic rules over common sense now.

And that's just a low blow. It's a personal attack. Congratulations for stooping so low.

I agree with you that this is fake. But if ATS members want to examine it with a fine-tooth comb, then TA AND SO have done a service to the best conspiracy sight on the Internet. Your criticism is out of line. But of course, you have a right to it.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
reply to post by SkepticOverlord

 

Firstly, I can't believe you're feeding this fantasy. I guess site traffic rules over common sense now.

And if I have to comment on the birth certificate, all the dates are in the wrong format. Kenya was a British colony / protectorate. Their date formats are DAY/MONTH/YEAR so this was signed by the registrar on 8-7-1961 which is July 8, 1961 - the month before Obama was born. It's SO fake.

What if we don't know the correct month?

just say'in

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
SO is in a difficult position in that no matter WHAT steps he takes, he will be criticized for taking a side. I certainly cannot speak for him, but it is my STRONG belief that his participation here is to give MORE information to the members, NOT to take a side. And the accusation that he is "feeding this fantasy" is incorrect. Nowhere does he state either belief or disbelief in this theory. That is in YOUR head.

I think you're making assumptions about what's in my head. I plainly didn't state he was taking either side. That's in YOUR head.

I guess site traffic rules over common sense now.

And that's just a low blow. It's a personal attack. Congratulations for stooping so low.

Not a personal attack. Just another statement. If SO thought it was a personal attack I'm sure he would have commented himself.

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
reply to post by SkepticOverlord

 

Firstly, I can't believe you're feeding this fantasy. I guess site traffic rules over common sense now.

And if I have to comment on the birth certificate, all the dates are in the wrong format. Kenya was a British colony / protectorate. Their date formats are DAY/MONTH/YEAR so this was signed by the registrar on 8-7-1961 which is July 8, 1961 - the month before Obama was born. It's SO fake.

Well, how do we know when he was really born...?

It would make sense that They would put a later date on the fake Hawaiian birth certificate as deliberate disinfo so that people wouldn't pay attention to the real Kenyan one when it came out! This just proves the Kenyan certificate's authenticity IMO...

Wasn't "Mombasa, Kenya" actually part of Zanzibar at the time of Obama's birth?

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Hmm yeah, why is that? I guess eBay allows the birth certificates of dead people only then?

Here's another note from Smith's youtube channel:

--------NOTE-------- Mombasa itself was 'leased' to Britain sometime in 1895. The said 'lease' was in effect until sometime in 1963. Zanzibar 'leased' Mombasa to Britain. Mombasa was a British Protectorate during this time period. The protectorate was known as the Bristish Protectorate of Kenya. This protectorate was seperate from the Kenya Colony. You might compare this 'lease' that Britain had on Mombasa to the 99 year 'lease' that the British had on Hong Kong. Do you think that those born while Hong Kong was under 'lease' were born as Chinese citizens? No, they weren't. And they didn't have Chinese birth certificates either. I trust that this information is helpful to the viewers.

www.youtube.com...

And other breaking news:

Congressman eyes lawsuit over president's eligibility
Republican finds birth certificate sizzling topic at Arizona town hall

WASHINGTON – U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Arizona, told a townhall meeting in Kingman yesterday he is considering a lawsuit to establish Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency.

Franks said there is conflicting evidence on the question of Obama's status as a "natural born citizen."

His allusion to the possibility of a lawsuit forcing release of Obama's original, long-form birth certificate is as far as any member of Congress has gone on this issue.

The eligibility issue was one of the hottest topics at the town hall meeting that included concerns about national defense, stimulus spending, health-care bills and the "cash-for-clunkers" program.

www.wnd.com...


[edit on Sun Aug 23rd 2009 by TrueAmerican]

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My my, SO. After working with this video so long to enhance it, you must have felt awfully dirty. I mean like, you take a shower or something after this? I mean no self respecting owner of ATS would ever dirty their hands with stories as filthy as this...? There's some stuff they sell called Gojo, and it works pretty well for mechanics. You might could try that, if the filth still has not come off. It cuts through partisan BS too pretty well from what I hear.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

----NOTE 08.02.2009 - Please see my eBay account homepage. There is a link in the upper right hand corner here on my Google profile page. Please review my latest eBay feedback. You'll notice that I was able to purchase US President John F. Kennedy's birth certificate (eBay item # 120127227415). You'll also see that I was able to purchase Babe Ruth's birth certificate (eBay item # 120205547295). I have purchased several different birth certificates on eBay within the last two weeks. Please ask yourselves why it was that eBay removed my auction for US President Barack Obama's Kenyan birth certificate? Why did eBay go on to also remove my auctions for stories, dissertations and photos regarding Obama’s birth place? What was eBay trying to hide? Could it be the same thing that US President Barack Obama is trying to hide? Ask yourselves these questions. You can also use the link below. Thank you.

feedback.ebay.com...

Wait...He was also auctioning "Stories, dissertations and photos regarding Obama's birht place"....He was asking for people to bid for the privelage of him telling them about it??

Well...sure he is a criminal, but he is funny

Originally posted by maybereal11
Wait...He was also auctioning "Stories, dissertations and photos regarding Obama's birht place"....He was asking for people to bid for the privelage of him telling them about it??

Well...sure he is a criminal, but he is funny

No, if you followed the story, what happened is that he tried at first to simply auction off the BC. But eBay continually shut his auctions down, one after the other. So then he tried auctioning off his story about how he obtained the BC, with the BC as an added bonus to the winning bidder. But that didn't fly either. So he withdrew from eBay and eventually went to WND.

The February 19, 2009 stamp in the video appears to me to be the date the certificate was issued. It actually helps to validate the document, if anything.

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Ok, so after analyzing this video, SO, have you been able to apply any of the typeset signs that you know to what we are seeing here?

For instance, in another thread on a previous BC forgery, you pointed out that periods when authentic generally will appear darker because of the increased saturation of the ink and penetration of the head into the paper on a typewriter.

And in looking at this video, isn't that exactly what we see here? The periods do appear darker than the rest of the type. And certain letters do appear slightly darker. So wouldn't this be one point in the "plus" (authentic) column, so to speak?

Are there any signs in this document that would make you think it is an obvious fake, from what you know about typesetting?

Who Is Behind Quashing the Birth Certificate Issue?

canadafreepress.com...

NOW WE KNOW WHY

In an explosive interview by Dr. Laurie Roth on her syndicated West Coast radio show on August 7th, Douglas Hagmann—a respected journalist, director of the Northeast Intelligence Network and longtime private investigator, and Judi McLeod, a prolific journalist and the managing editor of Canada Free Press—the reason for the media blackout about the birth-certificate issue was nothing less than organized Mafia-like dire threats to members of the media issued not only from the heads of major TV and radio stations but also from Federal Communication Commission officials!

According to Hagmann and McLeod, who conducted a nine-month investigation and documented their findings scrupulously, after Obama was elected but before he was inaugurated:

* A major TV talk-show host reported that he was ordered not to raise the birth certificate issue or risk losing his job.
* FCC officials threatened to yank broadcasting licenses, break up conglomerates, and make the enactment of the Fairness Doctrine “look mild” in comparison to other consequences.
* In at least one corporate TV headquarters, memos were circulated to all on-air employees not to mention the birth certificate issue, as well as other specific subjects like Obama’s Illinois lawyer’s license, his college records, etc., under both implied and explicit threats.

During the interview, Hagmann and McLeod—who never mentioned a particular network by name—alluded to e-mails and other evidence in their possession, copies of which, they said, were secreted in several locations. But they did tantalize listeners with descriptions of meeting with “sources” outside of St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York City, a high-placed contact looking nervously over his shoulder, references to directives and warnings given by “those at the top,” and the undisguised threat of one executive to his underlings: “This is serious, and so will the consequences be if anyone chooses not to be a team player with this.”

This comes as no surprise to Fox watchers who have noticed that the Stalinist-style censorship of the Obama regime is already here. This couldn’t possibly be because of the healthy shares of stock the Saudis bought in Fox, could it? If so, why would the Saudis care so much about quashing potentially damning revelations about Obama? Have they also bought shares in Obama?

there is a lot more to read here.

canadafreepress.com...

A COUP D’´ETAT?

Scholars and historians have documented exhaustively the Left’s obsession with (1) the acquisition of power, and (2) transforming America from a free-market, Constitution-respecting, freedom-loving, God-embracing society into a Socialist-cum-Communist “share the wealth” collective that echoes the beliefs and “values” of their heroes Marx and Engels.

But it takes money to bring about the kind of poverty both Socialism and Communism deliver to their masses. The kind of money only a few at the top enjoy while they’d like the rest of us to wait on food lines and appear before death panels of impersonal state functionaries who decide if we’re worthy of antibiotics or surgery and, if not, convenient “go-to-sleep” pills.

The kind of money that “talks”—that can buy people off, finance revolutions, launder money, pay to rig voting machines, manipulate allies into positions of power (czars, anyone?), conveniently crash markets (as George Soros did in England in 1992, Asia in 1997, and, I believe, the U.S. in September 2008), make people disappear, make birth certificates and other vital records disappear and then make sure that an entire media, Congress and court system is terrified of “going there.”

We all know of the many multimillionaires and billionaires—including Soros, the Saudi royal family, et al—who contributed to Obama’s presidential campaign and continue to fund his leftist agenda, all of them with an ideological, religious, or personal stake in his remaining in power. And all of them part of a larger, more ubiquitous conspiracy—yes, conspiracy!—to conceal Obama’s origins and true parentage.

Among them, as JB Williams has documented, are “international socialists working through CPUSA - SPUSA and DSAUSA, funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations. Here’s a short list of the BIGGEST leftist front groups: America Coming Together - Joint Victory Campaign 2004 - Media Fund - Service Employees International Union - American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees - MoveOn.org - New Democrat Network - Sierra Club - EMILY’s List - AFL-CIO - League of Conservation Voters.”

Further, Williams asks: “Who spends an obscene $1-billion dollars to win a lousy $400,000-per-year job, and why?”


Richard Poe, award-winning journalist and New York Times-bestselling author, has written extensively on Soros and makes a good case that the Hungarian-born Jew and self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama—and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a “regime change” in the United States.

canadafreepress.com...

self-admitted Nazi collaborator is the primary brains and money behind Obama—and, I believe, his healthcare travesty. When President Bush was in office, Poe wrote that Soros talked openly of a “regime change” in the United States.

No doubt

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WoW! What great article. We've been saying it and saying it: Big Media is corrupt, and they will only report what they want us to hear. Thanks so much for that article, Storm!!!

When are these idiots going to learn that eventually the truth will come out. In this case though, the name of the game here is to not wait 30 fricken years before we find out the truth. We need final clarity on the BC issue now! If he's not supposed to be there, than GET HIM OUT!

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None of this comes as a surprise to me, because my own investigations and others here on the forum have turned up many of the same things.

Your welcome.

Well, so the word is in from WND on this, and now they are calling it a forgery, opting instead to stick behind the BC that Orly Taitz has, which is apparently more authentic, according to them.

www.wnd.com...

The alleged Kenyan birth certificate offered by eBay seller Lucas Smith and displayed last weekend on YouTube.com is not a valid document, a WND investigation has revealed.

Administrators at Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, the hospital named as President Obama's supposed birth hospital in the document, refused to authenticate the record when contacted by WND sources in Kenya.

They list 8 supposed reasons why, so visit the link. Kinda sucks to get your own thread labeled as a HOAX, eh SO?

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
And other breaking news:

Congressman eyes lawsuit over president's eligibility
Republican finds birth certificate sizzling topic at Arizona town hall

WASHINGTON – U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Arizona, told a townhall meeting in Kingman yesterday he is considering a lawsuit to establish Barack Obama's eligibility for the presidency.

Just an update on this.

Cong ressman Franks Drops Threat to Sue Obama

During a town hall meeting Sunday, Congressman Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) stated that there was not sufficient proof that Obama is not a born U.S. citizen.