Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
If you accused me of child abuse I would sue you. Why don't the masons do this? It's a case of put up or shut up. . !

I think I can remove some of the generalization from Josh's statement and narrow it down further.

There are certain fans who cheer for the Liverpool Football Club who are participating in Satanic Ritual Child Abuse. This is evident by their continued support for a team that allowed 96 of its most loyal fans to needlessly die while watching an inconsequential sporting event. It is also obvious that the majority of them do not know what the others are conspiring about but it could be possible that the Manchester United club is using them as a recruiting ground-and we all know that United is at the top of the Premier League Pyramid and is hell bent on domination! This would make it possible that when United goes to the Champions Cup they will have the most vilinous hooligans to unleash upon the unsuspecting European populace who will then heedlessly and drunkenly clout them about the head and neck.

I would expect that you will soon be contacting a solicitor to assist you in rebuking these claims..................unless of course they are true.






[edit on 5-9-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.

Originally posted by Fitzgibbon
Why argue a point that doesn't bear scrutiny? All that does is lend undeserved credence to the person making the initial unfounded assertion while putting Masons in the position of being viewed by others as 'the laddie doth protest too much'.

I would say the opposite. You either stand up for the fraternity and argue with those who wish to blacken it's name, no matter what the subject is, or you ignore all accusations.

Many arguments and their arguers are self-debunking and don't require attention.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I don't think you should pick and choose what to defend against! Once you start that game you leave yourself open to all manner of accusations especially if you go silent on accusations of child abuse.

And then there's the arguments that pop up whenever someone too lazy to use the search function stumbles across something new to them but old as the hills to anyone else. The child abuse one falls into that category and doing anything more than referring the stumbler to the last time the subject was debunked is more effort than it deserves.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Like I said earlier, I think the masons have their priorities wrong. If someone accused me of being in league with the devil I would shrug my shoulders and say think what you want, but if someone dared accuse me of having anything to do with child abuse I would go crazy and make sure that no one made that particular accusation again.

And the problem with that approach is that in this forum, most non-Masons prefer to believe the worst of Masons regardless of reality. Going crazy only serves to give them undeserved stature in the eyes of those who could be convinced to believe the worst.

Where's the advantage in doing that?

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Maybe it's something to do with the whole masonic ethos. . ? Maybe being a mason and taking the degrees removes the ability to get angry and fight back? Maybe it just makes you more even tempered and laid back? If this is the case then it is just another reason to be suspicious of it. . .

Maybe men of "mature age" might live up to being mature and recognising a playground-class taunt as such. If not knocking someone's block off because of an Internet taunt is enough to make you suspicious of Masonry, then I sincerely doubt that there's anything good about Masonry that won't make you suspicious of it.

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Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Please tell us all how Liverpool Football Club allowed 96 of it's most loyal fans to die while watching an inconsequential sporting event?
The very fact that you would mention such a thing proves that you are the lowest of the low and are almost certainly capable of anything. . . I hope others read what you wrote and see you for what you are! "Shameless. . "

Kind of reminds you of when people claim Masons are molesting their children during Satanic Rituals without any proof.

Also, get a grip dude, it was an analogy, not what I really think.