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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 05:55 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas

reply to post by Rockpuck

Yes, "Swine Flu" is a perfect example.

Most people do not realize that W.H.O., or World Health Organization being on American soil, albeit on Mexican soil first and through this nonsensical "epidemic" is the United Nations, on American soil.

World Health Organization Flag

These people being on our soil means that our regular laws are being bypassed.

United Nation Flag

By allowing the United Nations on our soil, through an "emergency situation", and the people not decrying foul, means that the people have bought the lie hook, line, and sinker.

This is the beginning of the end because our standard laws are bypassed by these laws under the emergency situation necessitating a differece of how to handle the situation and in essence this becomes the very "Situation X" that so many people scream and whine about but they do nothing.

Seldom do people understand the nature of the laws they complain about, let alone the things that can and will affect the laws and how they can be influence by a scenario that they seldom believe will ever happen to begin with.

When I first heard the name "Swine Flu" it sure sounded to me like a set of code words to signal for the silent round up of disidents and would-be troublemakers who might stand against the Government, and I do not believe I was too far off the mark either.

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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 06:19 PM by Rockpuck

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Fascinating, I have never seen the WHO's flag (why would they have a flag anyways) .. but side by side with the UN's.........

Just wow.

It's suspicious even more considering our CDC is far more capable than the WHO .. with the CDC here in the States, what reason is there for the WHO to be operating in the US?

This is the beginning of the end because our standard laws are bypassed by these laws under the emergency situation necessitating a differece of how to handle the situation and in essence this becomes the very "Situation X" that so many people scream and whine about but they do nothing.

Well certainly you have a peaceful, democratic solution to this problem, right SKL? .. Surely there is a logical none violent way to defeat these people, to kick them out of our country, to end what's coming with this "flu"?

I will patiently sit back and watch the situation unfold.. it's interesting to me from a philosophical vantage point.. Watching history be made, and how the people react to it..

reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 06:31 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas

reply to post by Rockpuck

Well, seeing that it is right on the border, and international in nature, W.H.O. outranks the C.D.C., and in essence a political coup happens where the United Nations is finally ushered into the United States of Americato assist us in "our time of need", and as well with our current "financial crisis" (read self-afflicted wound) then we are at the mercy of this international body as well, and I just have to wonder if Obama is in the know of this as a willing patsy, or if he is blind to this charade and inept to catch it, both are troubling in themselves.

A peaceful non-violent solution you ask of me, Rockpuck?

I have several of those and I keep outlining them here on ATS yet no one pays them any mind. I am of course talking about the legal and non-violent overthrow of the Government body as a whole, although with this "Swine Flu" "epidemic" here it may not be able to happen since we are under a different set of laws now because as we shall soon see this nation will change almost over night and as people line up to get the "Swine Flu shot" to innoculate themselves and family and those who will refuse it, you and I will see our country slip slowly into a state of anarchy, quietly hushed up by the mainstram media, or cranked up loud by the mainstream media as necessitated to discredit those "conspiracy nutcases" as they see fit for the purposes of the pro-Obama/pro-Government propaganda.

You see far too many American do not understand legalese, double-speak, or tech-speak.

I included the thread below to show how confounded the people will be by the very title.

Transhumanist Postgenderism - Science Fiction or Science Future?

People have lost the will to know and instead will hire lawyers or accountants to sort out things because this is the dumbing down of America we are living in, we are living within the dumbest that America has to offer because they cannot see what is right in front of their noses.

The revolution will not be televised, it will in fact be syndicated...

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reply posted on 24-8-2009 @ 07:41 PM by Rockpuck

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You can't really say you have a solution if the solution is completely ignored, can you? I mean, you could lay out the perfect anti-corruption plan.. but if no one agrees, or follows, what good is it? It's no good at all.. That's my entire point, corruption cannot be undone. Of course half the problem, which we both agree, is the general public is seriously to ignorant to understand half of what is happening. Take the economy for example, 1out of a 100 may understand what's really happening.. 50 out of a hundred know they at least got robbed but the others, no clue, and could care less.

Such ignorant apathy serves the Powers That Be perfectly.. Dictators salivate at such compliance.

I believe if the Flu shots are "forced" we could see the first signs of open rebellion .. the Media which will label them terrorist, dissenters and racist, among other things.. I cannot fathom a logical reason for the urgency with this supposed dangerous flu when all signs point to it being a non-issue.. I can certainly understand buying hundreds of millions of these shots, because the politicians get a kick back, but forcing us to actually take them?

Of course, in the 1970's there was no forcing people to take the shot.. and they did the same thing they are doing now.. so who knows..

People are on edge, I know that much. They might not understand whats happening, financially or politically.. but they know they are getting the short end of the stick, they know they are being robbed, they know the Government is seeking even more power..

And they have no Democratic solution to look to. PS, love the yellow quote.

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reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 08:27 AM by SpartanKingLeonidas

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I agree with what you said about having a solution that no one will listen to.

That is of course because of the limited knowledge of the people who know little to nothing of the politics of what is going on and they know something is up but do not dare to actually read anything more than what is here within a message board, or the pro-Government newspapers, or the quasi-controlled newspapers.

Instead of actually researching it via books from both sides of the issue and taking a rounded perspective, they will read from their perspective only, or read from the opposing perspective and thrash that sides opinion instead of having an open mind about it. I see that people themselves must in fact be able to sit back and point fingers, instead of stepping forward to resolve it themselves.

What is that saying from grade school about pointing?

When you're pointing at someone the other four fingers are pointing back at you...

I am glad you liked the yellow quote I highlighted.

It is in fact the truth that the revolution will not be televised, it will be syndicated in that the truth will be smeared by political rhetoric, and like you mentioned that the people will then be labeled "terrorists" and whatnot, a complete and total abuse of power by those in office, because unfortunately that is all they know how to do, is abuse the power they hold.

If they were real leaders, and they are not, they would never do such heinous actions.

I suspect if they really knew how to lead we might actually want to listen to them instead of not listening until the spoonfed propaganda filled crap is doled out through mass hypocrisy.

Our politicians know absolutely nothing about real leadership which fits perfectly with the population who knows nothing of really being led, let alone how to spot a real leader.

I find it funny that the people bitch and whine yet do nothing to solve the problem.

The irony there of course is akin to seeing a jumper standing on a ten story building and yelling jump. The people are just that ignorant that instead of talking the man or woman down they would rather see the misery compounded by instigating the suicidal person into commiting their final act that they will not survive from, because after all society would rather watch the problem then resolve it.

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reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 03:24 PM by JaxonRoberts

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

An excellent analysis of the current state of affairs. The polarization of political ideologies is not in our best interest, and has led to our current problems. We need to eliminate the organized two party system, only independents. We need to outlaw lobbying and lobbyists and PACs. We need to make accepting money or 'gifts' from special interest groups an act of treason. We need to make offering money or gifts to an elected official an act of treason. We need to give those who are leaders in scientific fields a bigger voice. We need to limit the size of Corporations so that if they fail, they don't affect the economy. WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 03:32 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

An excellent analysis of the current state of affairs. The polarization of political ideologies is not in our best interest, and has led to our current problems. We need to eliminate the organized two party system, only independents. We need to outlaw lobbying and lobbyists and PACs. We need to make accepting money or 'gifts' from special interest groups an act of treason. We need to make offering money or gifts to an elected official an act of treason. We need to give those who are leaders in scientific fields a bigger voice. We need to limit the size of Corporations so that if they fail, they don't affect the economy. WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

Unfortunately, whether I agree with you, or not, and I do agree, those in power will never back out of the good deal they've got with their cushy offices, getting kickbacks, paid through lobbying firms through legal bribery, nor would they submit to it being treason. Corporations being downsized, by Government, or by the people would be a direct threat to those people in power, because their paychecks, and continued political support come from those companies, as well as the kickbacks in the "Bailouts" when they do seize and keel over almost going into insolvency.

The politicians want the corruption to continue because it's in their duplicitous nature to both take from us and from the corporations which solicit their votes and political power and screw us American's in the process. Why on Earth would they want that to end because if it were there would be no reason for them to ride in luxurious limousines, have granite floored offices, and teak desks.

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