Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions

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posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 07:59 PM
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Report Reveals CIA Conducted Mock Executions

A long-awaited report on post-9/11 interrogation tactics will reveal harrowing new details about treatment of suspected terrorists.

A long-suppressed report by the Central Intelligence Agency's inspector general to be released next week reveals that CIA interrogators staged mock executions as part of the agency's post-9/11 program to detain and question terror suspects, NEWSWEEK has learned.
Top Bush CIA officials, including Tenet's successors as CIA director, Porter Goss and Gen. Michael Hayden, strongly lobbied for the IG report to be kept secret from the public. They argued that its release would damage America's reputation around the world, could damage CIA morale, and would tip off terrorists regarding American interrogation tactics.
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Well then, another chapter opens for the Bush Administration. I don't know what's more disturbing...the event in the first place, or the destruction of the evidence. Kinda tough to say that the ends justifies the means if you destroy the tapes.




posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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I have no problem with this - as long as they are doing it to the correct people.


By All means, waterboard a select few a$$holes that represent a shady side of the u.s. government.





posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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More distractions based on hypotheticals. The story put put by Newsweek no less. One of Obama's faithful.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by Wimbly
More distractions based on hypotheticals. The story put put by Newsweek no less. One of Obama's faithful.


So, if it turns out to be as reported...ie you hear it on Fox, does that change it for you?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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My friends and I did mock mass rape and mock mass genocides when we were kids.

It was lots of fun.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by VinceP1974
My friends and I did mock mass rape and mock mass genocides when we were kids.

It was lots of fun.


Did you all grow up to be key members in the 4Chan community?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Whine Flu

Originally posted by VinceP1974
My friends and I did mock mass rape and mock mass genocides when we were kids.

It was lots of fun.


Did you all grow up to be key members in the 4Chan community?


I have no idea what that is.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by VinceP1974

Originally posted by Whine Flu

Originally posted by VinceP1974
My friends and I did mock mass rape and mock mass genocides when we were kids.

It was lots of fun.


Did you all grow up to be key members in the 4Chan community?


I have no idea what that is.


Youthful knuckleheads...that about sum it up?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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Big deal. Mock executions.

If I remember correctly, the Royal Navy sailors that were rolled up a year or so back went thru the same thing.

If that was the worse thing I had to look forward to when captured, I'd sleep well.

Now, a real execution.....that would really screw up my weekend plans.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck


Youthful knuckleheads...that about sum it up?


I dont know... we pretended we were Muslims.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Wimbly
More distractions based on hypotheticals. The story put put by Newsweek no less. One of Obama's faithful.


So, if it turns out to be as reported...ie you hear it on Fox, does that change it for you?


As I heard someone else say: "I did worse things as a kid". Seriously, just who do you think it is that we are talking about here? The criticism of our CIA is going beyond logical, and it has actually begun to delve into the realm of ludicrous. It seems that no matter what these interrogators do, or rather what they refrain from, it never pleases anyone. If a CIA interrogator shot a Terrorism suspect with a squirt gun, I wonder how many "I'm Oh So Righteous And Above The Fray" types would soon thereafter launch into tirades about "CIA Prisoner Abuses". Would you rather we pay for a Five Star Hotel room filled with amenities for these suspects? How about we ask them nicely, with "Pleases" and "Thank Yous", and then wait around for them to provide us with critical and time crucial intelligence? Maybe we should prosecute the interrogator who accidentally coughed in the suspects face, would that make you happy?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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I'm a bit confused here.

There's supposed to be a problem with mock executions?

And . . . exactly what is the problem with that?

I wouldn't even have a problem with the real thing, if they are conclusively caught with a weapon, explosives, or hanging out with others with weapons or explosives.

Of course, I'm all about efficiency.

I suppose that makes me a task oriented personality.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:38 PM
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Ah...

The activity on this thread is very predictable -

Hey guys, you can put yer buckets down now, the master is nestled in the
safety of retirement...

Jesus and you guys preach Obama induced brainwashing.

Not to mention NAZI comparisons


They had your wash on a double cycle, double bleach extra rinse.

I'm sure Laura has some undies you can iron while you are at it...



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Wimbly
More distractions based on hypotheticals. The story put put by Newsweek no less. One of Obama's faithful.


So, if it turns out to be as reported...ie you hear it on Fox, does that change it for you?


As I heard someone else say: "I did worse things as a kid". Seriously, just who do you think it is that we are talking about here? The criticism of our CIA is going beyond logical, and it has actually begun to delve into the realm of ludicrous.


But I thought large government entities are bad, inefficient, incompetent, costly, socialist, unconstitutional and EVIL by very definition?

Anyone will do...



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:43 PM
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By mock execution, do they mean fooling the "executee" into thinking they are about to be killed? Or do they mean more literally as in faking the "executee's" death so everyone else thinks they are dead when that is not the case?

The first is F'd up and likely been going on forever, the second is less likely, but unfortunately has also been going on IMHO.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 11:49 PM
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As far as I am aware, the Geneva Convention prohibits psychological torture. Setting up an execution, telling a person they were going to be killed, and possibly even injecting someone with something to make them lose consciousness in my is an extreme form of torture. It falls in the same category as simulating a drowning, at least in my mind. What if we pretended to cut off someones genitals applying a numbing agent and blood keeping the person from viewing themselves. Would they think they had no more genitals? Maybe we pretend to remove a testicle? Then tell the person to start talking?

So if I can think of these ways to get information out of someone, who knows what our government could come up with. For those that are okay with this kind of interrogation, I can see your point that we didn't actually harm the person physically. However, telling someone they will die if they believe it is traumatic in itself. Makes me wonder if death scares these people so much, how they are all described as suicide bombers.

Here is a memo from the Attorney General's office advising of the legality of different forms of interrogations. The prevailing theme was "shocking the conscious." If a method of interrogation "shocks the conscious" then it probably isn't legal.

www.scribd.com...

[edit on 21-8-2009 by ExPostFacto]



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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Geneva Convention is reciprocal. It only applies to mutual combatants who both agree to it.

I dont think Al Qaeda is a signatory.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:10 AM
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Is it? I thought it was part of the UN agreement of how we would conduct our actions in a war. So then we should invade other countries that don't comply with it then we can torture them...oh wait we already are doing that.



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:13 AM
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Why can't you just say what you're for instead of behind sarcasm.

You want a return to the 90s policy of pretending they don't exist.

That worked great, didn't it?



posted on Aug, 22 2009 @ 12:14 AM
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." If a method of interrogation "shocks the conscious" then it probably isn't legal.


Whos conscious are we talking about?

There are some people whos conscious is shocked by the killing of a fly. Remember the Obamacaust during the interview when he killed the fly?





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