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Is Japan NOT allowed to build it's army?

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posted on Aug, 30 2009 @ 04:50 AM

Originally posted by Redneck from Hell

Thats the JSDF, not an Army.

You should read some of the thread before posting.

I have read the entire thread.
What's in the wording?

So you're saying that none of those Guns, Bombs, Ships, Tanks, Jets, and Choppers constitutes a strong military?

Just for giggles... Who is using all those tanks, cannons and choppers?


posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 05:57 PM
reply to post by Redneck from Hell

What are they teaching at school? This was one of the first things taught in history class on the subject of World War 2.

But don't worry. A number of "militant" politicians want to do away with that clause. Luckily Japan has found a number of "workarounds". After all, how else could Japan's navy be the 5th largest in the world.

posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 06:02 PM

Originally posted by Redneck from Hell

A side question here. Why does the US condemm every God damm nation on Earth from creating nukes, when we are the only ones to have used them, and we have them stockpiled. I can understand why people hate us, bunch of hypocrites.

Thank you for future answers.

Well, there isn't a good reason, and don't ever expect a hypocrite to give one ;-)

I don't hate America, I feel sorry for it.. the trustno1 philosophy is largely created by, and as a result of instigation by the US .. thats a pretty crappy scenario.

So the only reasons justifyable are
- we dont trust them
- we cant control them

this seems to be the definition of good national security nowadays, and yes, it is a little sick.


posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 07:43 PM

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
well that was part of Japan's unconditional surrender. They do have an army, or "defense force" although they are not allowed to deploy said force internationally. It goes by various names but "SDF" or "self defense force" is the most common. Their forces are overshadowed by US military personnel.

Korean concerns have re-ignited desires for a more "army-like" military force, and less the civilian contractor style force of post-WWII.

Ministry of Defense (nee Japan Defense Agency [Bôeichô]; nee Japan Self-Defense Force)

Hence the hullaballoo when it was deployed for the first time in Afghanistan.

posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 10:18 AM
reply to post by 7redorbs

I don't hate America, I feel sorry for it.. the trustno1 philosophy is largely created by, and as a result of instigation by the US .. thats a pretty crappy scenario.

Did you go to public school and never get any training past

"Im ok, Your ok"?????

You do know the history that in the 1960s through the 1990s and evein today where they can get away with it...that the Japanese were stealing every invention/knowledge they could get thier hands on ...dont you?? They looted the US patent office.
The Chinese are quickly replacing the Japanese in this arena today. All the Chinese have to do is give enough campaign moneys and doors magically open to them while they loot our counrty.

I have some news for you 7redorbs, Your own country does not trust you ..nor any other country. Neither does any other country trust you or me.

All countries spy on other countries...thier friends as well as thier enemies. They even spy on thier own people the most.

Your own government pays for public education...into what dogma do you think they are going to brainwash you ?? It has to be "I'm ok, Your ok." THey are most certainly not going to teach you what they are really doing ....nor what other governments are doing....especially if it will put light on themselves.

Get a grip on reality ..not fantasy.


posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 11:00 AM
reply to post by orangetom1999

It's worse than that. We are just going to give it to them. Why do it in backroom negotiations when we can just bend over backwards to just hand it to them in public...

The United States to Allow More Hi-Tech Exports to China

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Jul. 31 - The United States will soon allow more high-tech exports to China as part of the issues agreed upon during the recently concluded China-U.S. Strategic and Economic Dialogue this week.

“The U.S. pledged to facilitate exports of high-technology products from the U.S. to China,” Vice-Premier Wang Qishan told China Daily adding that the dialogue was a “full success.”

Well Ladies and Gentlemen here we go again....

It's one of the last cards we have to play and we are just about to give it away. The Chinese will simply take the items or technology and Back/Reverse engineer it and wammo a new Christmas gift item. You know for a fact that once this starts we will see very cheap items showing up on our shelves that could have been made here.

Just yet another example of TPTB looking out for our best interests.

posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 12:37 PM
America has secretly been the supporter of many communist programs and supporting communism itself to prevent poor communist planning from collapsing the whole country of Russia in the days of the Reds.

Many a US Government bailout has prevented this. The Wheat sales of the 1970s are only a small example. The USA has been the biggest supporter of Communism in history.

Examples of this can be found in books by

Anthony Sutton

Wall Street and the Rise of the Bolshevik Revolution

National Suicide ...Military Aid to the Soviet Union.

Anthony Sutton also writes of

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler.

Wall Street and FDR

Very well researched books.

It appears that Anthony Sutton was hitting so close to the mark that he became personna non grata here in the States. His last books were published out of some house in Australia.

Today ..many people are slowly awakening to this concept..albeit slowly and some of them are begining to speak out on this in the media..slowly, very slowly, but in the right direction.

My point in all this is that I am aware that both Japan and German were built and rebuilt by moneys and influence from Wall Street..including banks and insurance companies and also industry giants.
Anthony Sutton explains the US companies who were instrumental in the rebuilding of Nazi Germany after the inflation of the late 1920s and into the 1930s. These are American companies...who were not sitting in the pews at the Nuremberg trials when WW2 was over.

At the end of WW2 American companies were also not at the trials of the Japanese even though they sold lots of war materials to the Japanese industries.

However ..both countries were rebuilt at public expense and for the profit of private companies who had invested in these nations at rock bottom prices for the real estate. Depression prices after a war. They also had some of the most highly skilled and motivated peoples to work for them at rock bottom prices..thus insuring profits.

China is now the new investment area for the descendants of these same groups who had invested in Germany and Japan before and after WW2. They have rerouted the factories and resources to the new growth areas now that costs for manufacturing have risen in Japan and Korea. Japan and Korea are now silently reaping the burden for this abandonment. This is not being talked about in this manner in our controlled/rigged media.

These are private territories without borders for these groups. A fiefdom if you will. An investment opportunity with huge pools of cheap labor. Cheap labor with the right attitudes and skills is the prime requisite of these groups. The factories can be moved anywhere in the world and the costs passed on to the consumer.
War and chaos are merely an investment opportunity for these peoples as they have no allegiance to any nation/nations. Their allegiance is to their profits and power.

Their footprint is difficult to see in most history books unless you can find or think outside the normal blocks or pattern which pass for history today.

China is their new investment area as is also keep China in check if China decides to turn on them and go independent as did Japan and Germany leading to WW2.

The USA has been the boot lacky for these investment groups since before WW1. We do the fighting and dying for them if their investments need to be repossessed..the repo man. Coalitions are formed today so no one nation need go it totally alone..but it usually works out that only one or two nations bear the brunt of the expenses.

We know this because historically the "victors get the spoils." The USA seldom brings home any real spoils indicating we are fighting and laboring for someone else's spoils.

We are also tasked with giving up any inventions and technology to these nations to maintain the investment areas of nations like Japan, Germany, and China. Also India.

Our government in this regard was hijacked and or stolen from us before WW1...unbeknownst to the majority of Americans and continues to be so unto today. They are getting so open with it ...fewer and fewer attempts are being made to hide the contempt of our Governments real handlers for us Americans. Thus we see the chaos today which tries to pass for Americanism under the banner of Guilt conditioning and Political Correctness.
This is all to maintain this profit margin to these world class investors with no Allegiance to this country....or any other..but only to their profits/power.

I have suspected for some years now that the important parts of history are missing from the history books.

Hope this brings some food for thought.

Thanks for your post,

posted on Feb, 2 2012 @ 08:38 AM
reply to post by Redneck from Hell

Every country on the face of this earth should emulate Japan. Even when they were the 2nd biggest economy they did not pursue military advancement. With their hi tech capabilities they go about creating/building and making better products for everyday use. I needn't have to list out the numerous Japanese produce we have in our homes or out in the driveway. If they wanted they could have produced 6th gen fighters with no problem whatsoever. If their motorbikes and cars (just 2 examples) are anything to go by ..imagine their fighter jets. They cannot have an army and they INTEND to DEPEND on the US for protection. What which was a good idea then is a burden now. Its very taxing being the world's superman...oops..super power

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