I don,t understand??????? we get a topic because there is an interest, we are all interested in truth on ats , then what???? many are out to try to prove so much is lies,
Do you really want to search for truth? or do you just have information and doing your best to discredit others,maybe that is your job , maybe you get paid to discredit, because i reckon for once on this site there are those who will discredit others not because they have tried to search for truth but , they don,t want others to know. As been said ,for over 50 years secrets have been kept, come on non believers, say no thats not true?

Maybe a moderator should examine these sites on ATS and anyone that writes more than 80 % of anti ,is no way interested in truth, but are trouble makers, we all want truth, but there are others who are paid to make sure you don,t get the truth , these should not be allowed to take part for a period of time.
Now lets see some flaming from those about the law and their rights.
Maybe he,s crazy maybe he,s not but at least he has the balls to stand by what he says against all the odds of his superiors, to give out info,if you don,t want to listen fine!your choice but others do.
Nothing wrong with querying for truth but, every blessed time someone says xyz, you say my eyes are closed so i cannot see nothing AND SO I AM RIGHT ,yes you are , but don,t tell others are wrong because YOU are blind,

if the documents are the real deal ... you guys need to be quiet ... or try to find out more about the documents ... but you guys cant say that the guy is crazy without proof ...

he, at least, have proof to what he says

I don't know the more I look into the subject of aliens more confusing it seems to become. I'm starting to think maybe the Christians are right that the ET's are no more than Angels and Devils! The only problem is sorting out who is who!

Whenever a ufo is spotted ,its reported, then officials turn up so find out what you saw and know, but more important to find out if you know something that they don,t?
they collect all the info thats given then away they go ,leaving most with little info due to the Official Secrets Act, they won,t release info to you, that you gave to them in the first place.

How did this thread go from UFO Secrets of The US Government, to a discussion about Clifford Stone's past experiences as a child?@$

Topic derailing is at an all time high here on ATS, you moderators need to start cracking down a little harder.

Clifford: I am very interested in the documents and information that you have. I for one have asked (and will continue to do so) that the document archivists and the FOIA documents section be reinstated ASAP. I believe that the FOIA documents,a s well as your testimony are a very important aspect of the UFO debate today. Thanks for having the grace and strength to stand up and do what is right Clifford Stone!

Originally posted by Orion65I don't know why the government doesn't 'fess up already.

Because it's like being "a little bit pregnant." You either are, or you aren't.

And with this issue, it's either the government doesn't know anything (a lie), or it knows everything -- and as a result has committed flagrant atrocities, stolen inordinate amounts of money and committed egregiously immoral acts upon the people of the world.

It would also signal the absolute end of the structure of elitist power control. So yeah, that's why they won't fess up.

Originally posted by Riposte

Originally posted by Orion65I don't know why the government doesn't 'fess up already.

Because it's like being "a little bit pregnant." You either are, or you aren't.

And with this issue, it's either the government doesn't know anything (a lie), or it knows everything -- and as a result has committed flagrant atrocities, stolen inordinate amounts of money and committed egregiously immoral acts upon the people of the world.

It would also signal the absolute end of the structure of elitist power control. So yeah, that's why they won't fess up.

Yeah, yeah, I'm known for being an idealist. _javascript:icon('')

How about if they disclose something every few years. This year they can disclose the ET cover up, in 2011 they can disclose all the atrocities, and they won't have to worry about anything after that because the world is going to end. _javascript:icon('')

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Whilst we all know the truth ,the fact is that only the older evidence will be believed because of todays technology.Even with a 1000 witnesses the footage will never be accepted.Too clever for our own goods .....

IMO the release of this interview at this time is part of the inevitable disclosure process.

The most telling quote of the entire interview was his reiteration of the national security excuse "In the event our government acknowledged the existence of UFOs there would have been an inevitable international race to gain and employ the technology. In the wrong hands, ie Russian, it could have been used to further the domination of Americans and other free people.

As more and more death-bed confessions come to light, the fear of retaliation is going way down. Even active and recent retired professionals are coming forward and willing to be interviewed by Dr. Steven Greer's Disclosure Project.

As it becomes increasingly evident that disclosure is inevitable, there is a rapidly escalating race to cover asses. The single largest impediment to full disclosure is fact that key individuals made decisions to withhold information and gave orders that went to any length necessary to keep things wrapped up.

People were killed. Lives and careers were ruined. Technology that can save the planet from the ravages of the internal combustion engine has sat on shelves for years as the condition of the planet continues to erode.

The second most telling fact was the admission that Clifford Stone will continue to be a Roman Catholic. In addition to the deeply ingrained and profitable military industrial complex and the oil industry is the industry of religion.

Full disclosure has the potential to flip the apple cart and rip its wheels right off. Certainly the powerful manufacturers of weapons, cars and oil stand to loose their grip on governments all over the world but what would happen to the millions of workers in those industries? Many could be jobless over night. What are you going to do with them?

No matter what you think of religion, the average adherants tend to be good people who follow basic social principles be they Christians, Muslims or Jews. What if many of these people suddenly had their entire philosophies up-ended like the money changers in the new testament? Would spiritual anarchy ensue? That is an impossible question to answer but there would undoubtedy be a period of rocky transition.

It is easy to say "let the cards fall where they may" but as Thomas Jefferson so clearly stated, "The veneer of civilization is very thin."

I for one and way past blacked out government documents and fuzzy videos. I have long ago come to the conclusion that we are being visited by interplanetary visitors. I have also come to the conclusion that if they wanted to enslave us or eat us and take the planet over, they would have done so a long time ago certainly before we could have held the planet hostage and threatened to scorch it with nuclear weapons.

The PTB are desperately trying to figure out how they can hang on to ultimate power and riches before the proletariat realizes they've been conned for at least fifty years and begin polishing the guilotines.

One of the reasons I joined ATS was to participate in frank discussion of the make up of "Post Contact Earth." I have been simply blown away with the intellectual capacity and spiritual advancement of many of the members.

IMO the discussion must be two-pronged and include both the industrial/governmental debate as well as the spiritual debate. The discussions would most likely be separate and distinct but parallel. Although there appear to be some members who have sufficient acumen in both areas, for the most part there seem to be two camps.