You're participating in a false flag opperation - 9/11 Truthers - You're carrying out the agenda

I'm still a big supporter of this theory.

False Flag Mistakes have always been concocted on purpose.

Our Current President was on the Alex Jones for Christ sake.

Is that the best you have for a 9 year old thread?

a reply to: samkent

Phil Jayden is one of the most loathsome "Truthers". inventing the "Vic Sims" where gubmint supposedly invented
fake people and posted them on memorial websites

Last couple of years seems to have branched into other lunatic fringe conspiracy theories …...

a reply to: firerescue

The truth movement has dwindled. In the context of the remaining hardcore conspiracists believing in the false narratives of planted WTC demolitions and no 9/11 passenger jets, you are dealing with people that have the same mentality of flat earthers and people that believe man has never set foot on the moon.

The irony of a hardcore group that pushes away any rational person, but never lets the lunacy truly die.

a reply to: neutronflux


The truth movement has not dwindled, it has succeeded. It's become boring to talk about because most people understand that the official story, if examined closely, falls apart. It's common knowledge.

Sure the mainstream media still repeats the story as though it is true, but that's what they do--manipulate the minds of the masses. Sure, hardcore apologists keep pretending the official story is true, rather like a religion for many, faith is all they have.

Faith is when you believe in something that you know isn't true, Twain said, and that's pretty much the case today.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: neutronflux


The truth movement has not dwindled, it has succeeded. It's become boring to talk about because most people understand that the official story, if examined closely, falls apart. It's common knowledge.

Sure the mainstream media still repeats the story as though it is true, but that's what they do--manipulate the minds of the masses. Sure, hardcore apologists keep pretending the official story is true, rather like a religion for many, faith is all they have.

Faith is when you believe in something that you know isn't true, Twain said, and that's pretty much the case today.

Really? One, this forum is going days on end with no postings.

Two. AE 9/11 Truth web traffic and donations are down.

Three, the AE backed WTC 7 Evaluation is a failure. AE has 3000 “professional” members, but only could get a bridge guy and two interns to conduct the WTC 7 Evaluation that was placed on indefinite release?

Four, AIA has about 4,000 voting delightes that keep voting down reopening WTC investigations. About 1000 individuals more the the mixed bag of AE “professionals”?

Five. I never denied, and many others here that the 9/11 investigations was to cover up the government’s shortcomings and failures.

Six, can you quantify how many believe the 9/11 investigations was to cover up the governments shortcomings and failures vs those that actually believe in planted explosives and no jets?

Seven, please state the evidence of your pet WTC theory that nuclear bombs brought down the WTC buildings.

Eight, please quote from the 9-11 forum the individuals that are justifying the government’s actions concerning 9/11.

Nine, to make conspiracy theories work the truth movement is claiming 99 percent of civilian witnesses, victims, local cops, state police, morticians, coroners, lab technicians, clean up crews, engineers, truck drivers, explosive experts, insurance investigators, military staff, airport employees, air port security, flight controllers, and the AIA are all lying? And complicate in murder.

a reply to: Salander

Faith? Then state the actual physical, video, and audio evidence the WTC was brought down by planted explosives. And what evidence is there the USA government planted the mythical explosives? Or you going to talk about passports again? And ignore passports have a long history of surviving plane crashes.

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: firerescue

you are dealing with people that have the same mentality of flat earthers and people that believe man has never set foot on the moon.

The irony of a hardcore group that pushes away any rational person, but never lets the lunacy truly die.

You do realize this is a conspiracy forum , a bit like going into a bar and talking about stopping drinking to the occupants of the bar

dilly dilly

a reply to: Salander

The truth movement has not dwindled, it has succeeded.

Richard Gage paid himself:
2013 $85,008
2015 $70,835
2016 $60,500
Your argument floats like a Missouri Duckboat.
It won't be long before we see Gage inside the front door of a Walmart. (cart sir?)

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: firerescue

you are dealing with people that have the same mentality of flat earthers and people that believe man has never set foot on the moon.

The irony of a hardcore group that pushes away any rational person, but never lets the lunacy truly die.

You do realize this is a conspiracy forum , a bit like going into a bar and talking about stopping drinking to the occupants of the bar

dilly dilly

I thought ATS was about getting to the truth?

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: firerescue

you are dealing with people that have the same mentality of flat earthers and people that believe man has never set foot on the moon.

The irony of a hardcore group that pushes away any rational person, but never lets the lunacy truly die.

You do realize this is a conspiracy forum , a bit like going into a bar and talking about stopping drinking to the occupants of the bar

dilly dilly

I thought ATS was about getting to the truth?

There is getting to the truth and shouting drunken ass-holes to a bar full of people on a night out

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: stonerwilliam

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: firerescue

you are dealing with people that have the same mentality of flat earthers and people that believe man has never set foot on the moon.

The irony of a hardcore group that pushes away any rational person, but never lets the lunacy truly die.

You do realize this is a conspiracy forum , a bit like going into a bar and talking about stopping drinking to the occupants of the bar

dilly dilly

I thought ATS was about getting to the truth?

There is getting to the truth and shouting drunken ass-holes to a bar full of people on a night out

But this is not a bar, it’s an exchange of ideas where you have to fight threw the false arguments, and the echoed lies of the truth movement?

This example.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sure, hardcore apologists keep pretending the official story is true, rather like a religion for many, faith is all they have.

It’s such a total BS point.

One, none of the physical evidence, video, audio, seismic data points to planted explosives at the WTC leading to collapse. Jet holograms and Dustification are total fantasies.

Two, who here is saying trust the government. Many “debunkers” acknowledge the 9/11 investigations was to cover the government’s own bottom. Also, many people that don’t believe in WTC CD question the NIST investigation. Not because they suspect impact and thermal stress did not lead to collapse. People question NIST because they want to know more about how the WTC faulty fire insulation and departure from codes related to the collapse for example.

Pushing pseudoscience concerning floor load ratings, dynamic vs static load, vertical column loading, thermite, holograms, nuke bombs, and energy weapons helps nobody but those responsible for the failures resulting in 9/11, and those that exploit 9/11.

It is typical that some judge what is true and what isn't by the salaries of men like Gage.

Yes of course there are many who still believe the official narrative, but those are men and women who would rather not know the truth, and are actually unable to confront the truth.

Many will not engage in detailed conversation because they are honest enough with themselves to understand they are ignorant of details.

Repeating a lie many times does not make it become the truth, and most folks understand that.

originally posted by: Salander
It is typical that some judge what is true and what isn't by the salaries of men like Gage.

Yes of course there are many who still believe the official narrative, but those are men and women who would rather not know the truth, and are actually unable to confront the truth.

Many will not engage in detailed conversation because they are honest enough with themselves to understand they are ignorant of details.

Repeating a lie many times does not make it become the truth, and most folks understand that.

Again with the false arguments?

Who here is trying to exonerate the government over their incompetence that lead to 9/11? Who?

Who here is not critical of the investigations of 9/11 in that they were designed to coverup the incompetence of the government? Who?

Who here does not engage? Who?

You want to belittle people because they don’t fall for the charlatans of the truth movement? You belittle people because they don’t fall for the pseudoscience of the truth movement? You belittle people because they know the rally cry of the truth movement the towers fell at the rate of free fall through the path of greatest resistance is a lie?

a reply to: Salander

Many will not engage in detailed conversation because they are honest enough with themselves to understand they are ignorant of details.

Sooooo? What is your detailed theory on what brought down the twin towers on 9/11?

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Salander

Many will not engage in detailed conversation because they are honest enough with themselves to understand they are ignorant of details.

Sooooo? What is your detailed theory on what brought down the twin towers on 9/11?

Controlled demolition.

a reply to: Salander

Based on what? The lie the towers fell at the rate of free fall through the path of greatest resistance?

Then post the video and audio evidence from the collapse video?

a reply to: neutronflux


Based on all the facts and evidence, including the laws of physics. We are not all quite so gullible as you.

originally posted by: [post=23618624]

Controlled demolition.

Yes. It was alien silent explosives technology, perfected at a deep underground military base in New Mexico. The nineteen Arabic, Muslim hijackers are all crisis actors, as well as everybody on the planes. They're all sitting on a beach, sipping pink drinks with little umbrellas in them, at the CIA's uncharted, tropical island hideaway, waiting to be called-up for the next school shooting. But you needn't worry about another 9/11, anytime soon, as the deep state is still trying to recover from the budget hit for the 9/11 crisis actors. There has also been no small disputing, over pay and dividing families this way, the grieving crisis actors, left stateside, for over a decade, wondering how long they need to continue the act, when they're not even paid significantly more, don't get any pink drinks, are even stuck, buying their own beer. But, thus far, nobody has been upset enough to leak all this. As with all the deep, dark secrets of the universe, I had to Google or search YouTube for the truth.

a reply to: Scrutinizing

On a beach with umbrella drinks and dirty naked freaks? Sign me up for the next one.

(okay so I took that from Con Air)