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Originally posted by Hx3_1963
I thought I heard what you said, but, as I read further I became confused...
...or was it your confusion, that confused me???
Originally posted by ashnomadonte
reply to post by WestPoint23
Dumb it down is all the guy is trying to ask you to do. Not everyone has a vernacular like yours sir.
Originally posted by PsykoOps
As far as I can imagine there isn't a natural disaster in the world that would require armed military response. The local police, national guard and militia have more than enough firepower to quell even the most persistant zombie outbreak.
I see the idea behind the law is to have an organized troop to respond to a disaster without the need to reorganized or restructure the current force. However the only reason I can think of that would merit an armed military force on US soil would be an total invasion by a hostile force.
Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
Taking over those base of operations. That is the only way to attack space weapons, IMO
Token second line.
It is only prudent to streamline the process and remove unnecessary levels of bureaucracy. In the event of a national emergency there needs to be a clear and direct chain of command in place to maximize the response and effectiveness of available resources. Furthermore, the United States military has no inclination or capacity to change and control the course of civil affairs in the CONUS.
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The reality as I pointed out on page 1 is no…let me repeat no, there is no chance 400,000 troops are simply for domestic disaster relief.
Currently, the President can call up the Reserves only in an emergency involving “a use or threatened use of a weapon of mass destruction” or “a terrorist attack or threatened terrorist attack in the United States that results, or could result, in significant loss of life or property,” according to Title 10, Chapter 1209, Section 12304, of the U.S. Code. In fact, Section 12304 explicitly prohibits the President from calling up the Reserves for any other “natural or manmade disaster, accident, or catastrophe.”
So the new proposed legislation would greatly expand the President’s power to call up the Reserves in a disaster or an emergency and would extend that power to the Secretary of Defense. (There are other circumstances, such as repelling invasions or rebellions or enforcing federal authority, where the President already has the authority to call up the Reserves.)
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Please don’t mistake citizens for Marines; some of us have been trained to think!
Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas and West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin, chairman and vice chairman of the NGA, responded in a letter to the Pentagon:
"While we appreciate the outreach,
governors remain cautious about changes to the military's authority to engage independently in domestic emergency response situations."
Governors want a clear chain of command and fear that the Pentagon proposal would complicate planning, result in duplication of efforts, and interfere with governors' constitutional responsibilities.
Historically, Americans haven't trusted the military to do domestic police work. The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, passed in response to abuses by federal troops in the South after the Civil War, prohibits the use of the military "to execute the laws" of the U.S. That's been widely interpreted as a ban on searching, arresting or spying on U.S. civilians by federal troops.
But the law has been violated, notably during the Vietnam War, when Army operatives spied on antiwar activists on campuses. Meanwhile, Congress has eased the law's limits to allow the military to help prosecute the war on drugs.
After the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House sought to further loosen restrictions to allow the military to take on a new domestic-security role. It has mostly been rebuffed. In May the House refused to approve a White House-backed proposal to give the Central Intelligence Agency and the military authority to scrutinize personal and business records of U.S. citizens. And the Senate last year blocked funding for a Pentagon project known as the Total Information Awareness program, which was supposed to collect a vast array of information on individuals, including medical, employment and credit-card histories.
The issue of an expanding military role in domestic affairs also surfaced last year with the Pentagon's creation of the Northern Command, or Northcom, based in Colorado Springs, Colo. The new command, the first such military command designed to protect the U.S. homeland from a terrorist attack, has responsibility for the U.S, Canada, Mexico, portions of the Caribbean and U.S. coastal waters. Northcom's commander, Gen. Ralph "Ed" Eberhart, is the first general since the Civil War with operational authority exclusively over military forces within the U.S.
The real question is do you trust your government and your elected officials? Well, do you? It seems that U.S. leadership in all areas of government, law enforcement and military are pitting the people against the empire
I will repeat once again, the United States military has no inclination or capacity to change and control the course of civil affairs in the United States.
The military has served under 44 Presidents for over 230 years filling it's ranks and protecting the United States with each generation of Americans. You do not build the finest and most disciplined fighting force on the planet so that you may throw away such a history and legacy to commit mass murder upon your civilian population.
Originally posted by WestPoint23
It is only prudent to streamline the process and remove
unnecessary levels of bureaucracy.
Furthermore, the United States military has no inclination or
capacity to change and control the course of civil affairs in the
If an individual decides not to obey orders for a cause it
matters naught whether they came form the governor or