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Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by open_eyeballs
yeah man, I'm not arguing with anyone here.
I like your style
I was simply responding to the statement that the Bible says though shalt not murder, in regards to killing and war.
The only time I would every kill, ever, and even that may be wrong, is if someone was hurting my family. So I can indeed understand times to kill.
But to say killing in war is different than murder, well, like I said, its all perspective.
Sure, Japan may be a powerful nation once again, but that doesn't address the atomic bomb killings. Those bombs were dropped after they gave up (its arguable only the 2nd one was dropped afterwards), so talk of what may have happened isn't possible. it didn't happen.
I think those bombs are one of humanities darkest hours.
While the old testament, the 10 commandments specifically, say do not murder, Jesus clearly didn't advocate fighting of any kind.
He stopped his disciples from fighting, killing, more than once.
I think standing up for what you believe in is a necessity, it brings about change, but even then, only doing it in a non-violent manor has ever yielded successful results ie: Ghandi.
When people fight, even in the revolutionary war, it only creates more enemies.
I honestly don't think the taking of life will get anyone anywhere, therefore, I think killing is wrong, and I think thats what jesus taught.
christians can definitely go on a warpath to conquer an evil nation.
Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by Spiritfilled
lol I can't tell if your joking or not...
I agree with your first part whole heartedly.
But waiting for Jesus is not the answer. People have been saying its the end times for hundreds of years...
Be proactive by spreading love. Trust me, it catches on. Get outside and smile at the people you pass, chances are they will smile back.
Open the door for people. Don't cut people off in your car.
Give a compliment. Strike up a convo.
people have scared themselves into being afraid to talk to other people, that everyone is the criminal they see on TV...
You can change that, we all can.
Originally posted by Odessy
reply to post by tinfoilman
I don't think they are the same for having the same god... I think they are same because they read practically the same bible, believe jesus is our saviour and only through him can you get to heaven...
for all practicalities, they are the same...
Also, again, why is America in the worse shape it has ever been in? You never answered?
Yes it is possible that America WILL BE IN THE FUTURE the worst it ever has been. But I'm asking about right now? Do you think right now, today, America is worse than it was in the depression?