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Originally posted by Shane
reply to post by Byrd
Hi Byrd. Trust you are well. Are you still "Schooling"?
Well, we seem to have a problem which is linguistic in it's meanings.
1st: Michael, Gabriel, Uriel, and the such, are Angels. They are also Sons of God.
I do not see any difference between the two, in this specific case.
2nd: Satan, was also an Angel, and a Son of God. So where the 1/3rd of the Hosts of Heaven which choose to leave their place of habitation with Satan.
There are many others such as this, but the main point is I wish to point out who exactly Sons of God are. There is a number, which Enoch would suggest total 600 Some Son's
Since a Third of the Hosts of heaven fell, and they totaled 200, I would figure some 400 remained making a number of 600 Angels/Sons of God or so.
Interlinear Hebrew Bible Genesis 6:2
The B'nai Elohim saw the daughters of Adam, that they were fit extensions. And they took wives for themselves from all those that they chose...The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and even afterwards when the B'nai Elohim CAME IN TO the daughters of Adam, and they bore to them -- they were Powerful Ones which existed from ancient times, the men of name.
This would suggest, the Sons of God, (B'nai Elohim) which Enoch notes above are exactly this. Sons of God.
Are they still Angels? No, today they are Greys, Reptilians, Tall Ones, Short Ones. (You may think I am being funny, but unfortunately I am not)
37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Who are THEY? Who got took away?
THEY are the Fallen, which became bound within the earth. What are THEY? One Time Angels, Still Sons of God, and now known as Aliens.
When did this start occuring enmass. Around the Period of the Balfour Declaration and the recreation of Israel as a Home for our brother Judah. The Parable of the Fig Tree is Key here.
Now I refered to Dan Browns writing previously and your comments are true enough. But this has little to do with it. Prince Charles believes his family line runs to Cain, and thus to Adam. The fact is THEY believe it themselves.
But again, it was the Serpents seed, that became Cain.
Originally posted by Shane
Prince Charles believes his family line runs to Cain, and thus to Adam. The fact is THEY believe it themselves.
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy
Sorry if this is off topic but to point out something with regards to dogs and genetics. It's true that pure bred dogs are usually unhealthier than their mixed breed counterparts correct?
We as humans are more intermixed nowadays than ever. So are we getting stronger? /quote]
Yes, and we live a lot longer, too.
Originally posted by The time lord
A very good post, I have done many in the same light, its really good to see people on the same wavelength even if people find it hard to understand or so hidden that they won't believe it.
One thing that caught my eye was the name of some of the Angels.......
Maybe others have some connection but something to think about.
1. And Azâzêl taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals 〈of the earth〉 and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of antimony, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all colouring tinctures. 2. And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways.
Semjâzâ taught enchantments, and root-cuttings,
Armârôs the resolving of enchantments,
Kôkabêl the constellations,
Ezêqêêl the knowledge of the clouds,
〈Araqiêl the signs of the earth,
Shamsiêl the signs of the sun〉,
and Sariêl the course of the moon.
And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .
Originally posted by Byrd
I'm up to all sorts of mischief!......I lead a very odd life, don't I?
They aren't mentioned in the Bible.
6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man
and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
There are region and time and culture differences in both books as well as in the Torah.
The tale of Satan is very tangled. ha-Satan is not the Great Devil but rather an angelic adversary.
Seriously... read the rest of the chapter. It's not about fallen angels. It's about humans.
Actually, they start occurring after television and tv programs in the 1940's. Before then, tales of abduction and sexual adventures by heavenly (or sky) beings were fairly rare.
Old Jewish lore and texts don't support the idea of a tainted bloodline of the Serpent --
Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
Hmm....well if you do buy into the whole Adam & Eve thing then we can all trace our line to them. No one family can be more closely related to Adam than the other.
TextNarrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam in his complete shape and form (directly), sixty cubits (about 30 meters) in height. When He created him, He said (to him), "Go and greet that group of angels sitting there, and listen what they will say in reply to you, for that will be your greeting and the greeting of your offspring." Adam (went and) said, 'As-Salamu alaikum (Peace be upon you).' They replied, 'AsSalamu-'Alaika wa Rahmatullah (Peace and Allah's Mercy be on you) So they increased 'Wa Rahmatullah' The Prophet added 'So whoever will enter Paradise, will be of the shape and form of Adam. Since then the creation of Adam's (offspring) (i.e. stature of human beings is being diminished continuously) to the present time."
Sahih Bukhari 8:74:246
TextNarrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you).
Sahih Bukhari 4:55:543
This is what the Bible says about Giants.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
And there we saw the giants ... And we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.
The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; Which also were accounted giants.
That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time.... A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them.
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold his bedstead was ... nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it.
And the coast of Og king of Bashan, which was of the remnant of the giants.
The valley of the son of Hinnom, and which is in the valley of the giants.
1 Samuel 17:4
Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span.
According to the Bible giants were evil cross breeds of humans and God had to destroy them.
If there were to be found today there would be a big cover-up about them, a lot of the Middle East is closed off in terms of these discoveries, some bits of rumour or evidence has surfaced, some say Giants built the Jupiter Temple in Lebanon and even helped with the pyramids, even the hyrogliphs have giant beings next to humans in them. Giant footprints have been found through fossilised, people have written books about them, the difference is that you won't hear it on the news because the news only deals with evolution and possibel alien life else where.
The point is that if these Giants are found will the Muslims come out and say look the Koran was right because Adam was a giant when all along Christianity has taught that they were a corrupt race?
Will this be a satanic conspiracy where they will be worshipped and help prove another religion is right or will it not surface at all? In Bible terms giants are of the fallen ones, the Koran states that Adam was a giant and one has to think with all its anti-Jewish verses and denial of Jesus Christ as lord that something smells in the direction of knowledge from the fallen Angels.
I could be wrong about the Koran version of Adam being 30 foot tall as I have just looked into this by accident today, if you like to expand on this issue please do and correct this on going research.
Again if Adam was 90 feet tall in the garden of Eden then the God of the Bible did not mention it, but Muslims argue that man got smaller with time, again there would have been some evidence not even the Neaderthals were that big, so one has to ask that that there was a hybrid species with a satanic agenda. If let us say Adam got smaller because he came out of Eden then man would have remained the same height rage througout history with a gradual decline and there is no evidence of that apart from Animal species that are now extinct.
The only person to have known other than God that Adam was 90 feet tall is Satan, and God never told anyone in the Bible about the height of the prophets just the height of the Nephilim and Goliath, the giants were never God's plan. If Adam was 90 foot tall then only Satan would know because he was also in the Garden of Eden, a good way to know your enemy is to know what he knows that others don't and many times the Koran trashes everything the Bible stands for into its own version of the Christian religion. One has to ask is this a clue to a previous Luciferian world where the dinosaurs became corrupted and God started all over again the Garden of Eden as some Christians have have this view of creationism?
Genesis 6 (English Standard Version)
Increasing Corruption on Earth
1When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." 4The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6And the LORD was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart. 7 So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, man and animals and creeping things and birds of the heavens, for I am sorry that I have made them." 8But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD.
Obviously something went really wrong in Genesis and it effected the animals too and maybe the influence in later cultures brought Griffins and Sphinxes into their worship as Gods along with other Greek Gods.edit on 5-11-2010 by The time lord because: textedit on 5-11-2010 by The time lord because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by stupid girl
reply to post by The time lord
to say something went wrong is an understatement
the entire creation of living organisms as a whole was tainted and sabotaged-- humans, animals, birds-- that's why it all had to be eradicated, save for a minute portion of uncontaminated creation, which would include Noah & his family and the basic vertebrate species we have still with us today.
I believe that dinosaurs were somehow inclusive of the corrupted species, thus they were destroyed in the flood and those that were salt-water-borne were left to die out on their own as a sub-standard species.
I don't believe that the earth & its environs was initially created to sustain dinosaurs and their very existence and increasing population was a threat to the planet as a whole-- plant, animal, and human alike.