Originally posted by The time lord
This is just my theory I have not read anyone else say this either but it was just a thought.
On top of that there was once a rumour of the pre earth where Lucifer ruled but some how it was destroyed or something went wong, so God created man
instead. I have to look into it but more than likely it was just a theory and not old fashion talk.
Let's make some things clearer and see if the question can be answered with some accuracy.
Time Lord. You, unlike the other contributors have brought the first hurdle to this discussion.
This is no rumour my friend. IT IS SOUND BIBLICAL TEACHINGS.
Of course, it is not part of the Doctrines, Dogmas and Theologies of the Church. But none the less, it is a Biblical Teaching.
It is clear Satan, had fallen by Genesis 3
But when, is not exactly clear.
Peter tells us of the earth ages.
The First which was. (Pre Genesis)
This one we have today. (These last 12 to 28000 years [Estimated])
The one to come. (The Millenium Kingdom)
Could something have been overlooked?
Well I would offer the following.
In the 1600's, King James ordered an English Translation of Scripture to be created, and in 1611 he was presented with the 1611 KJV.
Now, would you, as a translator, suddenly express some new or radical views which would be in conflict with the tenets of the Church, knowing of
course of the way inwhich the church handled false teachings (Hahahaha, made myself laugh there), and risk a visit to the Stake or worse. Or would you
follow the same premise the Church had previously devised and translate according to the Doctrines MAN made?
I would save my Skin myself, and the 1611 KJV is no different. The Translators even placed a Letter to the Reader within the book for you to review
and understand, so it is with this, you can proceed to study God's Word.
Now, Let's just look at Genesis 1: 1&2
1:1 In the Begining, God Created the Heavens and the Earth.
This is a Statement of Fact. This Occured. When though? As the Church has convinced the Sheep some 6000 years ago? 14000 Years ago?
No, it was in the Begining. 4.6 Billion Years ago could very well have been the Begining. As a Christian, I have no difficulties with this. I place my
understanding here, solely upon GOD and HIS WORD.
Genesis 1:2 is a difficult Verse, since the translators had to place words, not found in the original text, to imply something the Original Text does
not accurately express.
1:2 And the Earth was without Form and Void......., is used by the Translators. They had to insert a word to get this implication across.
1:2 And the Earth BECAME A WASTE AND A DESOLATION.........., can also be used, but what of the Church, and the Firepit with your name upon it? Are
you willing to express Truth or Keep your Head? Hmmmmm
We also here, can see the result of some event that occured. The Fall. Scripture offers a few names for Satan. The Serpent, That Dragon, The
DESOLATOR. Is this where his name came from, the Desolation????
Now, I noted how a few contributors have indicated Science should be the Guide to use for History, apposed to the Teachings of MAN, and their claims
of what the Bible indicates. Well, here, only two verses in, we have what Science indicates also expressed Biblically. The Earth became a waste and a
desolation. It could not be expressed easier than this.
Then, here's the other problem. The Genesis 1 Account becomes a RE-CREATION Account. Look at the Day of Man, (Day 6). "Make man in Our Image", and
"be fruit and Replenish".
What was the image of man previously? And why Replenish?
Because Caveman existed prior to the "Became a Waste and a Desolation", and the Recreation Story picksup on GOD's Intervention on Earth to correct
the problems Satan and the Fallen created?
On the Sixth Day, God and his Angels created Man, both Male and Female in the Image of God and the Angels. Many Races, Many Different Faces, much like
the rest of Nature, and God instructs them to have dominion over Nature and provide good stewardship over Nature and to Replenish the Earth.
(Nature = Fishes, Fowls, Beasts that Creepth, Herbs and Fruits, This sort of thing)
This of course may seem foreign to many "Church Goer's" since the Church, have this distorted premise, that somehow, Adam, was the ONLY MAN HERE at
one point, and everything comes from Adam.
Well, GOD Saw he did not have a Tiller of the Earth, so he "CREATED" Adam with a specific purpose that is completely different from Man, Both male
and female, created on the 6th Day. He was to become the Farmer.
But what was Adam's problem. He had no one like him to be with. What is this implying. None of the Created and Replenishing 6th Day Man looked like
I trust you can all get the point.
The Church and MAN ALONE have made the Dogmas, Doctrines and Theologies that form the basis of the Tenet's of the Church. What the Church Teaches is
only according to those Tenet's. GOD's own word be dammed. This is what we teach and Keep the Sheep from understanding, or we'll (The Collective
Church) will become not needed.
This is why I find it disturbing sometimes, that we within ATS have many who discredit GOD's WORD, due to the ignorance they have that the Church
So to get back to the Question, No, The Fallen had little to do with the Dinosaurs. They are part of the Process from In the Begining and what occured
during the First Earth Age. Some have already noted the behemoths. It's BIBLICAL Teachings. The Fallen had something to do with the End of the First
Earth Age, but everything seemingly was alright prior to the fall.
This is course is just the tip of what should or needs to be addressed to grasp the whole picture, but hopefully it is enough to get the Dust off of
some Bibles sitting in ATS Contributors Closets or Bookshelves, and let with eyes to see and ears to hear learn something from GOD's WORD
Have a good day.