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Originally posted by Swampfox46_1999
reply to post by Seventh
Because you keep on using bad information in your posts? Or bringing up side issues that arent really in play?
posted by Seventh
Excellent stuff, there`s nothing like a documentary to find out all those hard to acquire answers....
posted by CameronFox
I suggest you update your cut and paste job. (and do a little research while your at it)
Originally posted by turbofan
Originally posted by CameronFox
This looks like it is going to be rather informative:
At the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center in New Mexico, the remains a steel column in an open field after of a thermite test.:
Oh wow, you are just going to swallow this info up without raising any questions?
Did you happen to see the youtube video of some thermite eating through
and engine block which is much more dense than that piece of steel in
I'll be watching this 'documentary'...
Originally posted by Seventh
Regarding?, and whenever I do a long post I nearly always write it first in a text document, research on what exactly?.
Originally posted by talisman
I mean who would have thought? 3 planes, 3 different buildings(Pentagon-Wtc-1 & 2) all hit near or close to or right on recently renovated sections!
Some of the classified government experiments included: * Exposing more than 100 Alaskan villagers to radioactive iodine during the 1960s. * Feeding 49 retarded and institutionalised teenagers radioactive iron and calcium in their cereal during the years 1946-1954. * Exposing about 800 pregnant women in the late 1940s to radioactive iron to determine the effect on the fetus. * Injecting 7 newborns (six were Black) with radioactive iodine. * Exposing the testicles of more than 100 prisoners to cancer-causing doses of radiation. This experimentation continued into the early 1970s. * Exposing almost 200 cancer patients to high levels of radiation from cesium and cobalt. The AEC finally stopped this experiment in 1974. * Administering radioactive material to psychiatric patients in San Francisco and to prisoners in San Quentin. * Administering massive doses of full body radiation to cancer patients hospitalised at the General Hospital in Cincinnati, Baylor College in Houston, Memorial Sloan-Kettering in New York City, and the US Naval Hospital in Bethesda, during the 1950s and 1960s. The experiment provided data to the military concerning how a nuclear attack might affect its troops. * Exposing 29 patients, some with rheumatoid arthritis, to total body irradiation (100-300 rad dose) to obtain data for the military. This was conducted at the University of California Hospital in San Francisco.
Amazingly, these clandestine studies were conducted at the most prestigious medical institutions and colleges, including the University of Chicago, the University of Washington, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Vanderbilt University in Nashville, and the previously mentioned universities.
Now here is the Important thing.
Let me FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT accept what your saying. This in no way answers my question or even comes close to answering a key question here.
IF TURNER DID WORK ON KEY AREA's(0r close to) INVOLVED IN THE COLLAPSE......then why wasn't this looked into by NIST or others? What if Turner is using something in their renovations that would put other tall-buildings in jeopardy in case of large fires?
Until yesterday, when the Port Authority released its raw historical records from Sept. 11, the two men were remembered from glimpses as the north tower of the World Trade Center was heaving toward collapse. One was short, the other tall. They carried a crowbar, a flashlight and walkie talkies. Beyond that, say some who survived that day, the smoke had blurred their faces and hair and clothes into gray.
With their tools, the two men ? Frank De Martini, an architect, and Pablo Ortiz, a construction inspector ? attacked the lethal web of obstacles that trapped people who had survived the impact of the plane but could not get to an exit.
At least 50 people stuck on the 88th and 89th floors of the north tower were able to walk out of the building because Mr. De Martini, Mr. Ortiz and others tore away rubble, broke down doors and answered calls for help. Everyone above the 91st floor died.
The idea that some company just shows up at WTC and starts whacking away at the building is laughable To do any kind of work would require permits, lots of permits and paperwork
Originally posted by GenRadek
reply to post by bsbray11
bsbray, I already gave you a whole list of information as to what was a very likely candidate for the eutectic mix found on the surfaces of the steel. You ignored it for some reason.
You do recall that the eutectic mix was a result of lower then melting temps?
Adding sulfur to thermite INCREASES the temperature, not decreases.
You will have to be more specific. What ones were not?
He didn't, he was in a class room in Florida.
What speech? What was it in reference to?
Really? I read Rodriquez's statement to the 911 commission. Question is... Why haven't you? How many first responders WERE in the 911 report? How many would you have like there to been?
The 911 report was not an engineering paper. NIST was hired for that.
Originally posted by CameronFox
Originally posted by guitarhero4rox
I doubt the governemnt will let NG tell the truth. But im gonna watch this just to see what ridiculous things the people say to debunk the Theories
As I predicted in my OP.
Originally posted by GenRadek
Ah so I have to PROVE that chemical reactions and corrosion was taking place in the pile with all the said corrosive agents that would have been in place?
What nano-sized particles of sulfur are you talking about?
I suppose the fact that the breakdown of drywall's gypsum would release sulfur is beyond your understanding?
Why was national security protocols not adhered to
How did Bush see on T.V the 1st plane crash as it happened.
Why was WTC7 not deemed important enough to mention at the `omission.
The C.I.A. are trained to notice adverse movement on the stock exchange that could involve terrorism, terrorists favourite weapons are vehicles used as or carrying explosives, airports and planes yield fantastic results.....
This was a major crime scene, why was it not treated at as such, again a complete disregard of normal protocols.
Why if this is a war against terrorism and by all accounts very much Saudi Arabian related, has war not been declared on Saudi also, has this anything to do with John O`neil being told to back off (whole can of worms to be opened here tbh).
Why was war declared on Afghanistan after America could not offer evidence that Bin laden was behind it.
Why was everyone of importance at the respective targets not there that day ie Bush, Silverstein, are the main two but if this side had the investigation it warrants there would be alarming similarities.
Why has Khalid Sheik Mohammad never been brought to justice
Why was President Bush allowed to continue reading to a grade school class in Florida while the nation was under attack.
In depth interviews with patriots for truth.
For the most part they were.
He didnt. He mentioned he had seen the news report of the first crash.
A sterling example of a irrelevant statement. As mentioned by another poster, the Commission wasnt created to study the engineering issues.
Not sure where you got this load of manure.
Completely inaccurate. The debris WAS treated as a crime scene.
Again, an inaccurate statement. The Saudi Arabian government wasnt connected to the attack. Has nothing to do with John O'Neill.
They were told to hand him over and they chose not to....after the President had made it clear that if you supported terrorists, we were going to come knocking.
George Bush was supposed to be at the WTC that day?? This statement makes no sense.
He is currently in prison, awaiting the completion of the court proceedings.
Because the Secret Service wasnt ready to move him. They were making alternate plans about where to take him and resweeping the area around the school.
Are you getting the picture yet?
Dear oh dear Swampy read what I wrote, respective targets ie Pentagon and where was the Shanksville jet alleged to be heading?, that`s both Bush`s places of where there`s a good chance he`ll be - yes?.