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FBI: defenders of the constitution are terrorists?

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:04 PM
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I hate to play the Hitler card here as many do, because it is frowned upon (probably because of the same reason it is to say UFO or Alien, you tend to get mocked and discredited) but there is a reason that the Hitler likeness is getting tossed around so frequently lately....because there are obvious parallels and the people notice. I don't think it's entirely about scaring the rights or lefts so I will throw one more reference to Hitler out there that someone will assuredly come and scoff at and water it down until they themselves are swinging from the gallows one day choking on their own self-sense of smugness. The reference is as follows. Hitler, just before gaining his dictatorial powers, just before the second world war also had a "tattle-tale" group that ordinary citizens were urged to use to turn in their neighbors if they saw anything even remotely bizarre. What's even more pathetic is that the people who ratted others out for these unseemly behaviors (that turned out to be retardation and other innocent medical issues, or just someone they didn't like) .....they were given only $6.00 for turning these people in, and they were sent off to the camps. This is historically accurate and noted information. This seems to be the exact same thing just modernized a bit. I mean come on....Christian Hate groups? People who believe in the constitution which gave birth to their very nation? A terrorist? Those who would be free....should be locked away? This is insanity, and well into the works of skipping socialism and getting right to the main course of dictatorship. The Bible was right....."the time is short".

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Phenomium]




posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:17 PM
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What nut job is responsible for this, anyway?! Oh yeah, I forgot... The same nut job who re-labeled Islamic terrorism "man-caused disasters". Our wonderful head of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano. Can we all just sing Kumbayah now, children?



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by GideonHM
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Outback Steakhouse good? Funny, I thought they were just bastardising Australian culture to make a profit. At expensive prices to boot.


I firmly believe this is all intertwined into a toxic rats nest, and they are about to jump ship in terms of society. Could explain the underground bunkers.

Oh, I know I am just speculating here, and I am quite depressed over the current political and social trends everyone except the super rich and their lackies are facing.


I hear you friend. I don't actually eat at Out Back Steak House but I do like the No Rules Just Right concept. Of course chains like Out Back lost my business when they imposed the No-Smoking Rule, which in my humble oppinion is just wrong!

But I like the no-rules concept. I have my own rules, a code so to speak, which are the things I won't do or always do no matter what, but they are based on what I feel is right and wrong, not what society or the government thinks is right or wrong.

I have been fighting the Government since I was 13. The CIA and FBI both started files on me at 14. I am 45 now, so I have been in this fight a couple of decades already.

It's always been my world so it's not a depressing thing or shocking thing I am just waking up to or becoming aware of. I have been out there in the wilderness a long time telling deaf ears...these days are coming.

Problems are really just opportunities in disguise, a chance to fix something.

That's why they play the fear card, and try to fill be with fear and anger to unbalance them and to keep them from recognizing that there is always an opportunity for people to wake up and grow up and dismantle the Military Industrial Complex, the propoganda network, the big monopolies and corporation and do away with excessive government.

Whether it's the war on terror, the war on drugs, the war on common sense (political correctness), or trying to convince everyone you are a victim of something that only a huge all powerful and invasive government can save you from it's all just psychological warfare on the masses to demoralize them, rob them of their will and induce fear and anger to unbalance people.

Once you get wise to it, and accept that is in reality what they are doing, it all looses power over you. Then it's just a matter of throwing away the rules they make to impoverish you financially and spiritually and siezing on what opportunities there are to enjoy a quality life.

They can only win if you let them, they can only win using their rules.

Crying won't help you, praying won't do you no good.

Fighting the good fight...priceless!



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 02:49 AM
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It was probably deemed a "misprint" because it considers our new (then to be) president, lord and savior, the almighty Obama to be a left-wing extremist/terrorist, because of his politically motivated Marxist philosophy.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Post retracted after pondering the motive of this thread and the flier in question. I've decided not to play into the hands of propaganda

[edit on 21-8-2009 by oconnection]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 07:26 AM
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You find these guidelines unusual?

what exactly do you think civil unrest groups are?
within their rights?

Is it within their rights to upset my daily life because they are living in a state of paranoid fear and acting irrationally?

Homegrown terrorists exist and the people who carry out acts of violence against their government and people think they're doing the right thing.

Do you need reminder examples of why these guidelines were created?

Koresh? McVeigh? The weathermen? What is it with people, do they actually need to be blown up personally to understand that not everyone in america is a good person with the best intentions?

that brochure is accurate as far as I'm concerned and lets th police know exactly what they are dealing with.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 07:27 AM
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Are you saying their aren't right wing extremists who are trying to incite a civil war?


I know we have some of them right here on ATS.



[edit on 21-8-2009 by HunkaHunka]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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'course there are. Warrens one of em, aren't ya Warren?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:05 AM
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I'm neither left nor right. I'm what you call a "centrist".
Watch this video for enlightenment.


(click to open player in new window)





posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:06 AM
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Don't need to lie to me Warren, I know you're a terrorist.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:13 AM
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I might just frame it




and a funny cartoon to get the day rolling






[edit on 21-8-2009 by warrenb]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:16 AM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.




Originally posted by Aggie Man

Oh my, would I love to tell you some of the "off the record" things he frankly discussed with our group after the media was escorted out...alas, I can't...and, even if I could, it would be patently denied.


Then why even mention it?


We do have the Really Above Top Secret forum, you know.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Warren I need a couple of dozen of those certificates for our Tea Party organizers!! That is great! Tell us how to get one.

I agree with Aggies earlier comment that technically we probably are potential terrorists if you look at it from the Governments point of view, or from the view of people that are perfectly satisfied with the status quo!

Remember, "One man's terrorist is another man's revolutionary!"

A lot of the stuff we disagree with, and we want changed, and the mass amount of people we would take out of government, and the laws that need stricken from the books, and the taxes we don't want to pay, would define us as terrorists! Especially since a good portion of us don't mind how the change happens, as long as it happens, we are OK with using an appropriate amount of force, so there you have it!



terrorism - the calculated use of violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are political or religious or ...

www.google.com...:terrorist&ei=Y6COSseHO4uJtgfJk53PBA&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title

Actually, there are very few appropriate definitions of terrorism on google, but this one would exclude all us revolutionaries!


I would never want to harm a civilian! So I am a militant, not a terrorist.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:32 AM
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Are You a Terrorist? Take the quiz
www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:37 AM
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For anyone who is unsure of their own "mental stability", please click the link and take the mental stability test to determine your results.

Your Mental State

"Test your mental stability and how well you hold up against this test, you can be ranked as average, creative or insane, so choose your answers wisely."

But seriously, I googled the phrase mental stability to find out what the "official" criteria for that label is and the only sites that came up in the search were silly ones like the one I gave above.

So, who exactly is determining what is normal, abnormal, crazy, etc.?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:38 AM
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That is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard........and somebody gave you a star for that comment??

As I pointed out to Warrenb.......this document was from 2001 and never released to the public........

As I stated on another thread.........when are you people going to wake-up??

Rightwing, leftwing, middle..........Amercia has and is being played........There are no "two" parties.........There are no Democrats or Republicans...........its a false understanding set up by the elites..........It does not matter who you voted for and the ideas they sell you to get into office.........Those elected have no chose but to conform to TPTB........Everything that TPTB have wanted has and will be pushed through congress...(there are plenty of threads of how blackmail is achieved in congress)

It does not matter whats in this 2001 pamplet..........Everyone is a target.......

If you do not wake up and focus on the ball "together".........America will be lost.........It is no longer a hidden agenda.........They are standing very tall right in front of us using the "powers" we have given them telling us what they are going to do!!!

You can sit here all day long on this thread discussing this old pamplet boasting for or against your beliefs giving stars like its a big reward like all the other threads here on ATS......... which I guess gives many a warm fuzzy..........

And as you do this...........America slips away!!!

Note: My comments here do not take away from Warrenb bringing light back to this pamplet..........My point is......."Okay you know about this pamplet as well as 100's of other issues...........So what are you going to do about it? Star and flag a post? Sit here waiting for the next thread so you can have a social argument over left and right?

Or are you going to stand and let your voice be heard?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:57 AM
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I like that.... militant.... except I am not a militant, though I fit the definition for hypotheticall being such if ever such a hypothetical situation were to arise that would hypothetically compell me to partake in these supposed actions against unspecified people, places, things by uncertain and unclarified means.....


That's me agreeing with you but in a way that men in black suits don't bother me.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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wink wink nudge nudge







posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 10:30 AM
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reply to post by warrenb
 


Great write up here just popped up...talks about all of the concerted efforts being made to label law abiding citizens as "terrorist" and more behind that effort:


There has been a huge effort to label ordinary Americans as home grown terrorists by law enforcement/Fusion Centers and government agencies. We have all seen the MAIC report, VFC report, DHS report and the FBI reports which identify patriotic Americans as enemies of the State. The questions keep mounting as we must ask which is the greater evil? The Swine Flu? The Vaccine? Or the new American police state orchestrated by our government, law enforcement and military?
www.thepeoplesvoice.org...

[edit on 21-8-2009 by burntheships]



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 10:32 AM
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Great writeup!
thanks for the heads up and post




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