Anyone who has advocated peace has been killed... why?

Originally posted by calihan_12
yeah unfortunate as it is... i think the only thing we as citizens can do is come together and fight for what we believe in. I mean, really fight. Fight the hell out of it.

I think a revolution is needed. Im not afraid of it at all, I welcome it.

I have been thinking about this quite a lot in the past, and then miraculously enough, I came across this documentary called "Soldiers of Peace" (www.soldiersofpeacemovie.com...) which really changed the way I saw things....

"Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity", I read somewhere -- and I think I agree! That documentary actually showed me that peace can be achieved if all of us, one by one, make simple changes in our everyday life. We are not as powerless as we think. Each person's behavior affects the people surrounding him/her, and that has been proven scientifically recently - if you are happy, people around you become happier, and then they transmit this positive energy to other people.... it's a chain of action that can start from one single person.

The documentary traveled around the world and showed how simple, "ordinary" people actually changed their communities and made a huge difference....A woman in africa achieved peace through tribes simply by organizing football matches where people from both tribes fought in the same team. They learned to collaborate and realized their fighting was pointless. A woman in London who was paralysed after the bomb attacks has become an inspiration of peace for her community. Another woman, whose father was killed in a bomb attack when she was a kid, finally met the terrorist who organized the attack, and tried to understand why he did it. They eventually came at peace with each other.

There is so much we can do to achieve peace and it doesn't involve fighting for it. And whoever tells you the opposite, they probably don't have peace in mind, but their own interests...

Build a better mousetrap.

Invent new technologies to make our lives better.

Make billions of dollars and do what you want with the money.

Build schools, hospitals , concert halls and churches if you want.

That is how it is done!

Nobody is going to hate and kill you for that !

Stop talking and start doing!

yeah i used to feel that way too... i thought "how can you kill people for peace" it seemed so rediculous, but as time has gone by ive started thinking differently

I mean, not to sound like a bastard... but... just maybe the world would be better off without some of the people on this planet.

im sorry but thats the way i see it.

these are people who cannot be swayed by words. it just wont happen

thats why they can get away with it. if people dont do anything but "try and promote peace in their daily lives" it will never make enough of a difference in the end.

I should know, i promote change and peace in my daily life and while it may affect those near me, it doesnt affect anyone else. I am probably one of the most peaceful people i know, i really mean it, but if there is something i believe in fighting for, trust me i will.

something has to happen on a bigger scale than just talking and saying words. its just the truth.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by calihan_12]

Originally posted by MagnumOverDrive
Build a better mousetrap.

Invent new technologies to make our lives better.

Make billions of dollars and do what you want with the money.

Build schools, hospitals , concert halls and churches if you want.

That is how it is done!

Nobody is going to hate and kill you for that !

Stop talking and start doing!

that actually made me laugh. making money is the least of my concerns and in my opinion in the root of all evil in the world. bad advice

something has to happen on a bigger scale than just talking and saying words. its just the truth.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by calihan_12]

Fair enough, what do you suggest?

reply to post by calihan_12

Here's a former major leader of world-thought and peace activist who is almost never ever mentioned anymore -

Thomas Merton

Thomas Merton (31 January 1915 – 10 December 1968) was a 20th century American Catholic writer. A Trappist monk of the Abbey of Gethsemani, Kentucky, he was a poet, social activist and student of comparative religion. He wrote more than 70 books, mostly on spirituality, as well as scores of essays and reviews. Merton was a keen proponent of interfaith understanding. He pioneered dialogue with prominent Asian spiritual figures, including the Dalai Lama, D.T. Suzuki, the Japanese writer on the Zen tradition, and the Vietnamese monk Thich Nhat Hanh. Merton is the subject of several biographies.

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During his long years at Gethsemani Merton changed from the passionately inward-looking young monk of The Seven Storey Mountain, to a more contemplative writer and poet. Merton became well known for his dialogues with other faiths and his non-violent stand during the race riots and Vietnam War of the 1960s. Merton finally achieved the solitude he had long desired while living in a hermitage on the monastery grounds in 1965. Over the years he had some battles with some of his abbots about not being allowed out of the monastery, balanced by his international reputation and voluminous correspondence with many well-known figures of the day.

Rev. Flavian Burns, the new abbot, allowed him the freedom to undertake a tour of Asia at the end of 1968, during which he met the Dalai Lama in India. He also made a visit to Polonnaruwa (in what was then Ceylon), where he had a religious experience while viewing enormous statues of the Buddha. There is speculation that Merton wished to remain in Asia as a hermit. It is also said[who?] that Merton had planned to visit Cid Corman in Kyoto, Japan but never achieved that goal.

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Merton died in Bangkok on December 10, 1968 after touching a poorly grounded electric fan while stepping out of his bath. His body was flown back to Gethsemani where he is buried.

Source : Wikipedia

Personally, I have for a very long time now ( probably since I first realized the world is quite a bit more than just 'fun and games' ... ) suspected Merton may well have been the victim of foul play.

For instance -

A large, defectively wired fan killed Merton with a current of 220 volts. It is believed he may have attempted to move it while still wet from a shower or that, slipping on the stone floor of his room, he had reached out to the fan to support himself.

If either supposition is correct, his hands would have been inevitably burned along with other parts of his body. In fact, while his torso was severely burned, his hands were untouched. Which obviously means that he had not tried to grasp or adjust the fan, and that when he collided with it he was not fully conscious: it being impossible to imagine anyone falling against a large electric fan while conscious without thrusting out his hands for protection or support.

Source : vedanticShoresPress.com

Note : It has now begun raining outside my window as I write this, and I am overcome by an unexpected sadness. A single tear has formed and now trickles down my left cheek ...

See : Merton's Last Talk