Joseph Moshe - Arrested in LA by FBI for Going Public about Vaccine, page 6
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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 06:43 PM by Katie
reply to post by canihavemyvoteback



History can repeat itself. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN??

The government of HITLER. Do you really know about your modern day terrorists who are a branch off of the Nazi's? Whats there name ALQueda(sp)

If they get control of the U.S Then we are doomed to die. Not by a vaccine either.

If your government gives you and everybody else a shot and you all start dropping dead. What are YOU suppose to believe? It was an accident amd the vaccine wasn't right. Or they did it to kill you?
You will have 2 sides on it. No matter what they tell you.

One government person can taint the vaccine and all of the U.S government will take the blame.
Or was it just one?

We have to watch and see what happens.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 06:54 PM by Cygnific
reply to post by Jim Scott



Dont underestimate the power of suggestion. And who started the fearmongering? I sure as hell didn't.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 07:07 PM by crimvelvet
reply to post by hexagramfifty





The status quo continues; dominating, assertive, malevolent.
The dissenters; weak and ineffectual.
How is that different from right now. Why go through all the trouble.


Because we consume too much of the natural resources THEY want for THEIR descendants.



There are already too many people living on Planet Earth, according to one of most influential science advisors in the US government.

Nina Fedoroff told the BBC One Planet programme that humans had exceeded the Earth's "limits of sustainability".

Dr Fedoroff has been the science and technology advisor to the US secretary of state since 2007, initially working with Condoleezza Rice.

Under the new Obama administration, she now advises Hillary Clinton.

"We need to continue to decrease the growth rate of the global population; the planet can't support many more people," Dr Fedoroff said, stressing the need for humans to become much better at managing "wild lands" Source


"Wildlands"
If you have not heard of the "Wildlands" project or seen the map or seen the bills or treaties checkout Kalamath B. B. list of sources.

On the map only very small areas are designated for human habitations. The rest are wilderness or "buffer zones" The United Nations has similar plans for other countries. I see no way the present population will fit in the areas designated.


"Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" Maurice Strong




"Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing - are not sustainable." - Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit




"A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. - Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies



reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 07:08 PM by huntergatherer
reply to post by Jim Scott



YES

Read up on the executive orders signed, sealed, and delivered.





reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 07:43 PM by N3krostatic
S&F!

In another thread I mentioned how the vaccine might be the reason people start dropping like flies.

Here it is:
Very mysterious post on ATS dated 2008 predicting swine flu outbreak

Now the proposed reason for vaccine is because there might be a second phase to this flu correct? If there is a second phase it also might not be because the flu mutated but might be because the vaccine being offered to everyone is laced with another virus.

Basically the TPTB would make it look like the virus mutated when in all reality it was created and introduced through the vaccine. And people will be taking this vaccine en masse because of the hypothesized second phase of the swine flu. So in essence TPTB have convinced many a second phase or mutation is coming so take the vaccine. But the vaccine is what will start the second mutation.

And if forced vaccinations are requirements, that my friend sounds like population control. But naturally people will see the link between death and government and hopefully revolt if such happens. However if the vaccines effects are controlled enough or time released things could get dicey. Or if they are chipped or rigged in some way, after everyone is vaccinated one call from the right person could trigger the chip or vaccine to take its lethal affects?

But this whole media saturation and fear tactics on the subject could also be a distraction for something else.

Just trying to piece it together...

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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 07:58 PM by daddio
Originally posted by Mr_XIM
Just more scare tatics by someone trying to make a dollar, this is just garbage, the vaccine will help keep you from getting sick people, it's your choice, but don't believe this garbage. They are doing the best they can to get a hold of this flu before fall gets here and the vaccine is just another way they are trying to help you!

Take the vaccine shot, it could be your only hope!

You people never cease to amaze me with your wanton disregard for human life. Illuminists and Masons should be the first to die. It is because of you that the world is in such disrepute. There is no denying that. Real history has taught those of us with the open mind to see clearly what the agenda has always been. Sad for you really. Vaccines kill, that's all they do. Period.

All virus' are man made. Nature doesn't work that way. Just look at the archealogical record. Where is/are the virus'? Sure there have been food poisoning by bacteria and the like, but that is bacteria, not virus. Virus' are genetically engineered cells and "bugs" if you will.

Do not misinform people on what you do not know or understand. Shameful really. Visit this site to read what a DOCTOR who spent 30 years researching vaccines had to say on what she found and all the other doctors who collaborated with her have to say.

www.whale.to...



PRIMARY MOTIVE

The Primary Motive behind this alleged criminal activity is also the primary cause of most murders in the world today, and that motivation is simply: BIG MONEY. Billions of Dollars of windfall profits from government contracts worldwide, as a matter of fact.
I will provide evidence that will show that Novartis Pharmaceuticals of Basel, Switzerland has conspired with corrupt "scientists" at the U.S. Army Institute of Pathology ­ Ft. Detrick, Maryland, to create a "novel" strain of weaponized "influenza" virus by means of "reverse engineering" the deadly 1918 killer strain ­ which strain was maliciously and surreptitiously released upon the world in March and April of 2009 for the primary purpose of creating a panic-stricken world-wide demand for Novartis vaccine material.

The evidence will also clearly show that the Novartis vaccine material is in reality designed to facilitate the further mutation of the pandemic into more lethal waves of increasingly virulent and deadly disease, rather than to curtail and limit the existing outbreak. The evidence will show that Novartis is willingly being used, (and extremely well-paid) to facilitate the edicts of the global elite's Club of Rome; which edicts clearly call for a massive and sudden depopulation of certain segments of the earth's human population.

PRIMARY EVIDENCE

To realize such windfall profits on an engineered, global flu pandemic, detailed covert planning must take place of course.
Patents protecting the proprietary flu vaccine must be applied for and secured before the pandemic virus is released in order to minimize the competition and maximize the profit potentials. In a biological attack of this nature, timing is extremely critical.
Indeed, the evidence is clear ­ Novartis applied for just such a patent on Nov. 4, 2005, and the U.S. Patent Office accepted this application and granted US 20090047353A1 for a "Split Influenza Vaccine with Adjuvants" on February 19, 2009. (See bottom of page).

With this patent now secured, the conspirators were now free to create the demand for their "novel" split influenza vaccine by releasing a "novel" split-influenza (combining multiple viruses) pandemic virus from a weapons lab test-tube into unsuspecting human hosts. www.washingtonpost.com...

The so-called "Swine Flu" grabbing headlines today is actually a recombinant, or "split-influenza" virus consisting of A-strain Bird-Flu (H5N1), Swine Flu (H1N1) and multiple strains of human flu (H3N2). Likewise, the 1918 Killer Flu that killed untold millions of people was a recombinant or "split-influenza" virus composed of Bird flu, Swine Flu, and multiple strains of human flu.



Complete article here;

www.rense.com...


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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 08:05 PM by N3krostatic
reply to post by googolplex



So such an idea would be somewhat plausible then. A virus created to genetically mutate within a certain time frame. A link would be awesome!
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