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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:46 PM by JennyJen
reply to post by Cloudsinthesky



Then it still results the same - All those who don't trust the government and get the jab, will be the only ones to have kids who will then be raised with the same viewpoint and wage a war against TPTB, later on.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:48 PM by googolplex
reply to post by CeltAngel

When this all comes out 5 out of6 will be dissenter, and yes they have your number, you'll be one of first on list.

If you don't think they will do this resd my thread, and I'm not just trying to push my thread, but to push fact these B####### don't care and will kill you, FACT.

www.abovetopsecret.com...





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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:49 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Unnoan



or the vaccine is actually a vaccine to help protect people...

are peolpe really that paranoid they are not willing to even consider it as something to help them?

if this was their goal...to kill off everyone..why didnt they do it with the polio vaccine?

or the flu shot that million of americans get every year..there is their opportunity..why not use it?..

people are far to paranoid...


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Cloudsinthesky
reply to post by open_eyeballs



Why are scientist with the CDC not wanting to take the vaccine?


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:53 PM by googolplex
reply to post by open_eyeballs



They are working on it you have to give them chance, the HIV didn't work out right, and they only broke that gene code thing, not to long ago.

Everyone does not get normal flu shot, but they are making sure everyone gets this one or at least trying to, they are making enough to go around for everyone.

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reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:54 PM by getreadyalready
reply to post by Cloudsinthesky



Absent all the conspiracy rhetoric, I would certainly NOT take it.

If there were no rumors or conspiracies or distrust, there would only remain a Rushed and Untested Vaccine meant to prevent a Harmless version of the common flu! Many side-effects of Squalene, Thimerosal, and other Adjuvants, and a live virus are facts. A very low deathrate from the flu is a fact, and the effectiveness of the vaccine is not proven.

Therefore, on a purely risk vs. reward basis, no conspiracy, the vaccine is a not a good risk!



reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:56 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by Cloudsinthesky



because it is being jammed down pipeline without the proper amount of research gopne into it..

the congress already gave a billion to research it..

many have spoken up saying it is not sufficient..

so why would they take something that isnt going t help them and possibly hurt them


that doesn mean it is intednbde to kill off all the americans


siiiighhh

yes i am aware of the georgia guidestones..

so, the new world order ( ) posts their evil intentions to kill off the world what 80 (?) years ago?

why now? why not during ww2 when they had the chance?

or the other multitude of opportunities...

hhhmmmm...


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:58 PM by open_eyeballs
reply to post by getreadyalready



neither would I... thanks for bringing some confidence back to ATS reasoning..

its hard reading all the (insert wacky adjective) "theories" constantly...


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 12:59 PM by orderedchaos
reply to post by getreadyalready



Thank you for stating what my tired mind couldn't articulate so clearly.

Uncertainty. They have to know people would oppose the vaccines, and that others would demand it.

I just don't know.


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 01:09 PM by Armour For Victor
Originally posted by open_eyeballs
reply to
post by Unnoan



or the vaccine is actually a vaccine to help protect people...

are peolpe really that paranoid they are not willing to even consider it as something to help them?

if this was their goal...to kill off everyone..why didnt they do it with the polio vaccine?

or the flu shot that million of americans get every year..there is their opportunity..why not use it?..

people are far to paranoid...


Because your yearly Flu shot is not mandatory. In order to make a shot mandatory you need a crisis. What better than to start this Flu Pandemic to push the vaccines out for people who are now afraid. With the death toll rising, the gov't can now make it mandatory. If out of nowhere the government made your yearly flu shot mandatory, then people would suspect something. And they need it mandatory to get everyone a shot.



reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 01:10 PM by Violet Sky
I received this in my e-mail yesterday - from the Hathors:

"As we view it, the H1N1 Virus, commonly called the “swine flu” has been genetically engineered and created. It is not a natural mutation. It is a conscious attempt by the hidden forces behind your governments to control and manipulate you. It is a social experiment, with dire consequences if they succeed.

The lies, half-truths and manipulations of information concerning this virus are very convoluted. But whatever the outcome, it is clear to us that this was initiated by human consciousness.

And it is also clear to us that it can only be undone by human consciousness. Fear of survival is one of the greatest tactics used to manipulate, and these dark forces shall use every means at their disposal to ensure that fear increases over the next several months (much less years).

As spiritual masters, your task is to transcend this collective mind control and find your own personal pathway through the chaos that will ensue. There are no specific guidelines on how to manage this. It is up to you and your own capacity for discernment. From our perspective, it will appear as if a rift is torn through the very fabric of your social consciousness.

There are those who will side with fear and insist that radical actions be taken including, but certainly not limited to, inoculations. Each of you must make your own decisions regarding this, for you are the ones living in bodies, and it is you who would be most affected.

But we must say to you, from our perspective, that we view these inoculations to be highly suspicious. They are contaminated. They will not protect. They will, in fact, damage the health of many, and they contain crude mind control devices, formulated from a scientific field in its infancy called “nano technology.” "

You can read the whole message here:

tomkenyon.com...

**I was thinking about some of the previous posts questioning what would be the benefit of damaging/killing the people who are willing followers - and I think the above senario would answer that. If mind control devices, these nano particles, are inserted, then to what further uses could the innoculated be put to? Perhaps ratting out the unnoculated or uncooperative? Etc...

Ah, I'm getting paranoid here. LOL



[edit on 20-8-2009 by Violet Sky]


reply posted on 20-8-2009 @ 01:20 PM by Violet Sky
reply to post by kn0wh0w



I think he's referring to Miracle Mineral Supplement. I have some, but stopped taking it when I read the label that is was chlorine drops. But some people swear by it. Could be placebo affect, or maybe not. It made no differences in my life.
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