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Seriously People... We are so screwed that our last resort should be the Survial Forum here on ATS

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Doomsday 2029 the people are gaining power all the time.

The Internet itself is slowly but surely changing the tide. The speed and the amount and type of information that comes across the Internet these days is incredible. The people are far stronger than you can believe and they are getting stronger every day. Just go to the membership page of ATS and look at how strong ATS is getting every day, its unbelievable.

The militaries of the world are not as strong as you may believe. One day they may seem powerful and the next day they may be torn apart, just like Russia. Governments can be toppled very easily, even the government of the USA.

What holds the military of the USA together? Financial backing.

What happens if that financial backing ceases to exist? The military and other funded policing entities will cease to exist. Just like Russia, the USA will sell off its military machine. TPTB will be the ones selling all of the military equipment. That will be the period of time that the people of many countries will take back their countries

The economy of the USA is just about ready to topple now. One more disaster like Huricane Katrina and the USA will flop belly up, it won't be another country that takes out the USA military machine, it will be a natural disaster in the USA and the people will take over since the policing agencies and military will not be paid. They won't work if they aren't paid.

Actually ATS is a dominant force against TPTB. Everybody on ATS recieves fast up to date information on lots of their moves. Pretty soon their moves will be down to a stand still unless they can tax or take away the Internet.




posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:00 AM
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they would shut down ats and coddle the sheep back into blissful obedience.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:32 AM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
There is not one solution that I can think of to stop this tyranny. Not one.

There is no solution, and all hope is lost... In fact the only thing we can hope for is extra time.

The greatest minds on ATS could never put together an idea to stop the mass insainity, chaos, and ignorance that rapidly spreading across the globe.... So my last resort is to do everything in my power to read and contribute to the Survival forum.

It's time to recognize checkmate when you see it.


I mean, what's it gonna take for the PEOPLE OF ATS to realize this as a FACT. I'm sorry people, but they have divided us. Now they will conquer.

Do you really need to read up on the 9-11 conspiracy forum anymore? Do you really need to listen to Alex Jones rant and rave about this stuff? What information is there left to discover?

The fact of the matter is You know it's only a matter of time before the system breaks down, chaos erupts, and order is restored by the UN.

It might not happen in 2010... or even 2020... but if you live to be an old man, you will see World Government, make no mistake about that.

So what are you doing to prepare for the worst, because it's becoming common sense that America is gonna get hit the hardest. I mean, they even have TV shows on the Discovery Channel about the SHTF. I mean c'mon people: The Colony??? (google it)


WAKE UP TO WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW!!!

What else are we trying to learn? We've seen the FEMA coffins, we've seen the camps, we've seen the truth. Now do something to prepare yourself. It's not a matter of being paranoid, or fear-mongering... It's a matter of being smart.

There aren't many people here on ATS that can predict what will happen next... But it dosn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that something will happen soon.

Anyway... Hope to see you in the survival forum.


Blue pill...no, not viagra, the other one called zoloft, it came first. Take it.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by RussianScientists
reply to post by Doomsday 2029
 


Doomsday 2029 the people are gaining power all the time.

The Internet itself is slowly but surely changing the tide. The speed and the amount and type of information that comes across the Internet these days is incredible. The people are far stronger than you can believe and they are getting stronger every day. Just go to the membership page of ATS and look at how strong ATS is getting every day, its unbelievable.

The militaries of the world are not as strong as you may believe. One day they may seem powerful and the next day they may be torn apart, just like Russia. Governments can be toppled very easily, even the government of the USA.

What holds the military of the USA together? Financial backing.

What happens if that financial backing ceases to exist? The military and other funded policing entities will cease to exist. Just like Russia, the USA will sell off its military machine. TPTB will be the ones selling all of the military equipment. That will be the period of time that the people of many countries will take back their countries

The economy of the USA is just about ready to topple now. One more disaster like Huricane Katrina and the USA will flop belly up, it won't be another country that takes out the USA military machine, it will be a natural disaster in the USA and the people will take over since the policing agencies and military will not be paid. They won't work if they aren't paid.

Actually ATS is a dominant force against TPTB. Everybody on ATS recieves fast up to date information on lots of their moves. Pretty soon their moves will be down to a stand still unless they can tax or take away the Internet.


Are we role playing? Or are you being serious? Pew Pew (Kills aliens) Pew Pew..



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:43 AM
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S for you brother. Very well said! Here on ATS at least we have a clue. So many people are still sound asleep. I told my dad about my survival plan and I heard an hour speech on being redical and such. I am about scared to talk about it much because of the reactions I get. But I think it is important to try to tell people just like Noah did before the flood. Imagine the reaction I get when I talk about Biblical prophecy. Regardless in what you believe we must prepare. For our children, if nothing else.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by RussianScientists

Actually ATS is a dominant force against TPTB. Everybody on ATS recieves fast up to date information on lots of their moves. Pretty soon their moves will be down to a stand still unless they can tax or take away the Internet.



Wow... ATS is a dominant force against TPTB?

really?

I think all it's done is created a list for the NSA, CIA, FBI. You have created your own public profile and believe me, that information is stored on a database somewhere.
I'm not saying that someone in a room is reading what you write... But the information you type on internet gets flagged if you type certain words like:

"Inside Job"

"Bilderburg"

"New World Order"

"Revolution"

"Infowars"

All the common words that conspiracy theorists google or research or discuss are get flagged, and then that information is storred in a database... When SHTF and Martial Law is imposed, and the UN troops are walking around your city... They will have a database / list of who is a potential threat and who is not. Who goes to Reeducation camp and who is the perfect slave, who gets a bullet in the head and so on and so on...

The internet if anything... Has helped TPTB get into our private lives, and it's now completely legal for them to track and trace our e-mail accounts and phone records via the Patriot Act. In the old days, before the internet, They use to flag library books, and who was checking out what specific book... You see an example of this in the movie Se7en, when they paid a $ht load of money to figure out what flagged books were being checked out by a serial killer... Same thing applies today but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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Yep, you got it. They also flag words like kill, assasinate, terror attack, Obama, and the like. Well crap I just got flagged 4 times!!!!!



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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lol


the second one was funny too...



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous Avatar

Originally posted by The_Seeker
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I am glad that you feel that you are prepared. I also understand that there is a lot of fear mongering going on about the situation we have all Participated in, and with what is to / or may not come.
But isnt violence and greed what has gotten us into this mess. We need to fight but in a manner that is not violent and we all have the smarts to do it.
We all know that violence leads to more violence and this then comes hand in hand with corruption, greed, hidden secrets and cover ups and more.. Its sad, we still choose to hurt ourselves and each other. Why keep doing something when quite obviously its not working.

And yes I agree with the poster, its here, its started and its obvious, yet we all still seek some sort of answer when its slapping us all in the face.
.Unity.
Yes a pipe dream to some, but do you think if we really pushed this we could become a fair and just society, yes we could, it would take time, after an initial uprising, but we could do it and do it well. We all know the rules, it should be easy! But we dont live by them.....

[edit on 20-8-2009 by The_Seeker]


First of all I share your same dream to live a world of peace with out greed and most importantly getting there with out violence first.

Secondly just as in 1776 if violence occurs it will be the people defending themselves. Not the other way around.

That being said we do not live in an ideal world and for some reason unbeknown to me there are very evil people who have very real and tangible goals of nothing less than enslavement of the general population. Violence to defend ourselves from such tyranny is in my mind justifiable by any measure.

Now to your first sentence. I may be prepared but I was not referring to myself and it pales in comparison to what some insiders estimate to be in the millions of patriots comprised of active and ex military and civilians alike who lie in waiting for tptb to fire the first shot.



I am glad that there are so many out there that dont just sham the idea of a world with peace, and thinking it impossible!
Yes I see that defense side as well, and to be honest I want to ignore it.
I know I cant, shouldnt, but it just sickens me to think that in order to survive, there may be unwarranted death.
And I am with you on the lack of understanding as to why others want that type of control, so needless, but if we can get away with it first, as someone earlier posted, by just stopping, and using a more forceful method as a last restort would be the ultimate answer. Oh to be blind...
And yes, I agree, and apologise for my comment, as, what I saw, to me only the sites you provide looked rather extreme, but I will say since then I have seen a few docos about survival, and I also understand extreme now.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 03:20 AM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029

Originally posted by RussianScientists

Actually ATS is a dominant force against TPTB. Everybody on ATS recieves fast up to date information on lots of their moves. Pretty soon their moves will be down to a stand still unless they can tax or take away the Internet.



Wow... ATS is a dominant force against TPTB?

really?

I think all it's done is created a list for the NSA, CIA, FBI. You have created your own public profile and believe me, that information is stored on a database somewhere.
I'm not saying that someone in a room is reading what you write... But the information you type on internet gets flagged if you type certain words like:

"Inside Job"

"Bilderburg"

"New World Order"

"Revolution"

"Infowars"

All the common words that conspiracy theorists google or research or discuss are get flagged, and then that information is storred in a database... When SHTF and Martial Law is imposed, and the UN troops are walking around your city... They will have a database / list of who is a potential threat and who is not. Who goes to Reeducation camp and who is the perfect slave, who gets a bullet in the head and so on and so on...

The internet if anything... Has helped TPTB get into our private lives, and it's now completely legal for them to track and trace our e-mail accounts and phone records via the Patriot Act. In the old days, before the internet, They use to flag library books, and who was checking out what specific book... You see an example of this in the movie Se7en, when they paid a $ht load of money to figure out what flagged books were being checked out by a serial killer... Same thing applies today but on a MUCH LARGER SCALE.








Many ATS users have created a sort of self paranoia, and to be honest I wonder why they even post to complain about it.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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I say we all go dig an underground cities in iron ore mines down here south of the equator. We've got entire families living under the red rock for years. Pretty insane when you think about it.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Namaste
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Yes. You should. It's about to become the dream of all dead men. Mark my words. The new age is on it's way.


The dream of all dead men?

Isn't that taking things a bit too far?

You are actually saying that the USA are ready to kill off 50% of the population..... do you realise how silly this sounds?



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by epitaph.one
world government is not a bad thing.
if you want the world to progress and not kill ourselves, one world government is the only choice.
then and only then can we become a resource driven world and not a money driven world.

i think most peoples problems is that they imagine 1984, with 1 leader sitting on top of the world. thats not how it would be. it would be a council.
you can say i drank the koolaid and all that #. but w/e man, i embrace a one world government.

i dont understand why a one world government automatically means mass genocide and the death of 80% of the planet. till this day i havent seen one shred of proof that shows thats what would happen with a one world government.

maybe the NWO isnt a bad thing and your all just conditioned by the real NWO to believe that.

the greatest trick the devil has ever pulled, was not to make you think he didnt exist, it was to make you think he was god. - epitaph.one how bout them apples.


I agree. I wouldn't mind trying out a one world gov. Could you imagine if all of the people of the world could agree to that or want that. That would be an awesome day.

I think the reason why people are being brainwashed not to want people coming together in such a way is because of the bible.

The bible wasn't written by "god", it was written by men. And when the bible refers to the one world gov. it was referring to the Roman empire, using it as a device to scare people.

These religions all do one thing, scare people into joining them. If you don't believe then you will go straight to hell, etc., etc. Regardless of whether you're a good person or not? Yes, according to Christianity. If you are truly a good person but don't believe too bad.

I can't sign up for crap like that, and any god who thinks that was is not my god.

But this is why people are so afraid of the possibility of a one world gov. I don't believe such a thing could ever happen in our lifetime, people just haven't evolved enough yet.

I'm listening to people in this thread and I hear a lot of anger, fear and disdain for their fellow man.

Maybe the world needs a "new order", it's current order doesn't seem to be working too well.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:24 AM
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A person can always have hope. But don't mistake defeatism from realism. I try not to worry about things I have no control over. Do I think about our current economic condition-absolutely. Do I think we are in dire trouble--absolutely. That's not defeatists attitude, that's reality.
Your life may be in an economically good shape. Good job, manageable debt, a generally good outlook. But the reality of our country's economic outlook is starkly awfull. there is no real positive news out there. The government tries to blow smoke to present good news, but it's just smoke. there is no real good news. This reality, not a defeatists attitude.
So continue to control what you can, and manage your affairs, because our government is totally out of control, and headed for a train wreck very soon. That bad feeling in the pit of your stomach is there for a reason. That's your instinct telling you we are in for a world of hurt, and it's just around the corner. The collective consciousness of the nation is all feeling the same uneasiness right now, that's no coincidence. The train is almost at the station, and it won't be long now. Do what you will to prepare, cause you won't be able to stem the tide once it starts.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 09:40 AM
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There would be nothing wrong with our reverting back to an agrarian type society,the thought of actually working and sweating to get by scares the heck out of most people,because they don't remember how to do it anymore.

We forget so quickly,the most important things.

If you are concerned that there is going to be some sort of collapse,prepare yourself by living as small as possible......

Re-learn those thngs that are forgotten,your spirit will follow,it will be lifted by so little when you stop expecting everything,wanting things yesterday.

You have everything you need when you are born,parents to help you through the early times,to learn,the knowledge learned from them tempered with experience and morals to get by on your own.

People find changes like are coming to be terrifying,change is all there is.

TPTB are afraid of change too,that is why things are the way they are.

Get small,let it all go,it is all meaningless.

I have been homeless for 5 years,and I have never been more free than I am now.

The more you take from a man,the freer he becomes.

Just my silly opinions being expressed in a place where it doesn't matter what I think anyway......

Peace to you all.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 10:32 AM
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I suppose that comes to a personal moral decision. When it comes to someone who is willing to arrest free law abiding citizens and place them in detention camps or simply willing to take another mans life in the name of a corrupt power structure then some people are willing to take a life in the name of self defense.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
There is not one solution that I can think of to stop this tyranny. Not one.



So what are you doing to prepare for the worst, because it's becoming common sense that America is gonna get hit the hardest. I mean, they even have TV shows on the Discovery Channel about the SHTF. I mean c'mon people: The Colony??? (google it)




I'm trying to build an UFO. That Simple.

No road blocks.. no permission to go .. do or be. No need for energy...fuell...free at last.

All the best


CX

posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
Get small,let it all go,it is all meaningless.

I have been homeless for 5 years,and I have never been more free than I am now.

The more you take from a man,the freer he becomes.

Just my silly opinions being expressed in a place where it doesn't matter what I think anyway......



I don't think they are silly opinions at all. In fact thats probably the most thought provoking post i've seen all day. For me anyway.

Thanks.


CX.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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I don't know what people you interact with, but from what I can tell, people seem pretty aware that the smelly stuff is about to hit the fan. People have been saying for decades now that the country is falling apart, then when the internet became common you hear more about the world is falling apart. Religious and non religious people alike are aware that a one world government is in the works for the future. In fact, many people are in support of it. They think it's a good idea because there will be "global unity". They don't see that someone is going to be able to do what every king, emperor, dictator, you name has dreamed of but never was able to achieve it, which is to be in control of the world. There has never been a King, Queen or "ruler of the world" but when Earth becomes one, there will be. People are ok with this because they think those in power will have our best interests in mind.

All they see is no more boundaries, one big happy family. No more wars, no more racism, no more corruption. They only are focus on the good parts of the idea. Which is what I'm all for, Global harmony, where there is no more war, conflict, racisim, but a humanity that strives to betterment of themselves, the planet and so on. But that is just a pipe dream people have. They aren't awake enough to see that it will not work that way. They think their freedoms are being stripped now, they don't have a clue. First you have to cut the population apart, they will either do that in camps or they will trigger the third world war which will make every war before it look like a playground shoving match. When the nations governments are ravaged beyond repair, they will have no choice but to give themselves to the new world order. They won't take us now.

Not while we can fight. People might be asleep now, but take away their livilhood, and people will riot. But weaken us from the most devestasting war in recorded human history and you got us. Or perhaps they don't want the countries to be at war, Perhaps they want to drive their people to a point where they riot and the national militaries will either be overrun or will refuse to fire on it's people, then there is where the UN military will come in. These are ideas I discuss with anyone who will listen.

They are for the one world government, but they dont' want to see the reality scenario, they want to think it's going to solve all of our problems. The world government will be there to take care of us better than our own. Yeah, sure. But there are many I have talked too outside of ATS that may not be aware of the conspiracy theories on it, but they see a socialist mess on a global scale taking place and they want to keep things how they are, but wish our current system to be healed. Then there are the people who don't even care, it aint their problem, everyone who even thinks about this stuff is stupid.

So in a way OP it is as you said, they have divided us, but I don't think the division is as bad, at least from my perspective. At the moment, people are becoming aware. They now see that the president they all thought would change things isn't living up to the hype, they are tired of high gas prices, tired of high prices for food, tired of being taxed for everything just short of taxing you for going to the bathroom, tired of the politics, tired of hearing about how great rich peoples lives are during hard times, tired of hearing one fear monger tactic on the news after another, tired of being unemployed, and the list goes on.

You are starting to hear protests now. I'm sure they were already happening. They have been happening since Bush part two sent troops to Iraq, but the media has kept it quiet. But media is so big now, things are creeping through the cracks. They won't be able to keep it quiet for much longer and they will be getting bolder. This is where the ride is going to get interesting.



posted on Aug, 21 2009 @ 01:25 PM
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Not really. The U.S government, like every government in world history, sends it's own people to die all the time without even breaking a sweat. If they want something done that will give them more money, more power, they would kill off 50% of the population and their own parents if that is what they had to do to get it. Power corrupts, absolute power absolutely corrupts.



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