OP, I will flag to bring attention, but your being a defeatist at best. These men of power are nothing but wimps when thier all mighty desk is turned over.
The military and police will only go so far for these clowns. As long as we stay within the laws as long as possible.

Why do you think some are showing up with guns at the rallies? Testing the waters.........simple as that. The police and Secret Service have not crossed the line with that and they will not. If they do, then the laws have been crossed and it puts them at danger.

Something will happen over the next few years and the United States will not be the same. It could be good, it could be bad. If it's bad, it will be split up. But at least there will be most of the states where they go back to the way of the Constitution.
If it's good, the Govt will get backed down, like it should be. The bankers will get it broke off in their A*s and we can start making things again.

Making paper is for a paper mill, not to sustain a country. Any simpleton can tell you that. If you don't do something for a living that makes something, get off your butt and learn, for your way is going bye bye.

Those who wish to force their way and belief system on others,potentially putting others in harms way for their own selfish reasons deserve to be filtered out of humanity for ever, for THEY are the weak who built and created the most problems IN SOCIETY TODAY AND ARE MAD NOW. Mad @ what they created because of complexion issues??? *swine flue doesnt see color but may see 1z heart* stay focused this is were the universes CURRENT attention is focused EARTH. MAKE YOUR OWN PATHS (ITS FREE WILL TIME PLEASE DONT DARE FOLLOW ANOTHER TO THEIR OWN PERSONAL DOOM YOU WILL BE MAD AZZ HELL FOR ALMOST ETERNITY)

[edit on 8/20/09 by Ophiuchus 13]

Some of the posts in this thread are the typical responses I thought I would see.

Let's say hypothetically we have 2,000,000 man militia stacked with guns, ammo, and even a few tanks and helicopters... All 2 million have the same goal & purpose.

They would get destroyed in a few days.


Besides, who has the technology, nuclear weapons, the control over our military? Who could start an epidemic and come up with a cure? Who has the power to create false flag events. Who prints and distributes the money? Who has the power to create effective propaganda?

It's easy to say the people could rise up and stop this Tyranny, but there is no telling what the people would do if we had a few nukes go off... Or an epidemic unleashed on the public.


Just remember... Civil unrest seems to be what TPTB want.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Doomsday 2029]

LOL, all hope is NEVER lost. there is always room for hope, and always room for change.

its the people who give up and accept their fate who dont grow into better people

I fully disagree with the op, I do not believe any of us will ever see a world goverment, nor any of the other crazy things that come along with the great new world order conspiracy.

Survival Guide....


Step 1) Stop being afraid. Because you create what you feel and think.

Step 2) Stay in the moment and be grateful.

I'm 100% serous about this.

i have to disagree OP. You are suggesting we just fold up. . . well not me . . . they can have my liberty when they pry it from my cold dead fingers chliche no?

but on a serious note i believe that if the best minds on ats came to gether and implemented a plan to which people would actually adhere things would happen. . .

the problem is getting everyone to work together without infighting. . . we all want similar things but have different beliefs on how to get there. . .

Hope is never lost. . . . unless you give up. . . never give up. . . let loose the dogs of hope

I am new here but from what I have been reading - I am a believer.

But - Sheeple - I love that term! Sheeple are the majority of the population.

How do you think other "normal" people would react if you were to = say:

Went next door and told your neighbors that the banks might Take=A-Holiday and they should keep some cash handy? How would they react?

What if you stood up in the grocery store and anounced this over the loud speaker? You would probably be arrested. Almost everyone would claim you were just a crazy person.

Think back to the pictures we have seen of WW11 - masses of people calmly walking into boxcars. There might have been 200 of them with 4 guards - did they attack the guards? Did they fight back? No they just got on the train.

There are some of us that will (try) to be prepared. Some of us that fear that a lot of the info here is Real. Some of us that are afraid of what might happen. But the Masses are living in their own little bubble world and would - - - -just get on the train.

I'm tired of these topics everywhere on the internet. The wording is always the same vague specific language.

"Very soon definitely maybe this Fall."

Every week multiple people call the fall of America, and then another month rolls around without any such event. It's mid August now, things are supposed to begin being put in motion and I see nothing, only more propaganda articles about how we and other nations are coming out of the recession, and things are looking up.

I'm starting to lose that feeling of anticipation, I'm afraid people are being lulled back to sleep just as there was about to be true change in this country. I fear that we missed our chance, and all the speculation in the world will never bring it back.

I suppose this is just my faith in the people being tested, but I'm not sure how much longer I can live on hope.

No offense to the OP or any other posters on this thread, but how many times are we going to hear this "End of the World" speech?

I thought the economy was going to crash this summer, leaving half the population homeless and fighting for food and shelter? That never happened nor is it going to happen.

What about this Doomsday Asteroid that was supposed to come a few months back to kill us all? That never happened either.

Oh, and what about UFO Disclosure that was supposed to come in May of 2009? Again, that never happened.

All of these people fret, panic and worry that The Powers That Be have no concept or control over anything. Well guess what people, if you are living in the good ol' US of A, then you are apart of the greatest country on Earth (although the word "greatest" can easily be debated). This country is STRONG, both in a military aspect and financial aspect. China and Russia is not going to destroy us. There is no other country on this planet that is capable of destroying us. It is simply not going to happen, at least not in our life time.

This whole Real Estate/Stock Market crash was the same tactics and quasi-shenanigans The Morgans, Rothschilds and Rockefellers pulled back in 1919/1928 when the Great Depression occured. This latest move was to consolidate the banking industry. From Washington Mutual, Lehman Brothers, Bear Sters, etc. You do realize we will recover from this, yes?

THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END! Once you people get that through your frightened skulls, you sleep better, eat better and realize having a hopeful and promising conscious is more healthy than living in fear.

And if you are poor and out of work, then you why do you still have Internet access? Oh, but that is another story I shall save for a later date.

Thank you for your excellent post. I am very happy to see others with similar views to mine. The dumbed down idiotic general public seem to think everything is ok. I feel certain when the SHTF, they will never know what hit them.

I will check out the survival forum and see what is going on.

Thanks again!

Yes we are screwed royally several times over. Its all happen with in the last several decades. If its to hot in the kitchen where do you go? Less options today and even less as time moves forward. Don't know the exact date but we are surely getting much closure. I know many of the causes but I refuse to list its numerous tentacles but their is a premeditative plan that is becoming hard to denie.