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108 facts the government dont want you to know about.

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:40 AM
Three facts the government doesnt want you to know about the original list:

1) restating the same information in different ways to make a paultry list look long and exciting is a sad attempt to anger people who dont remember something they just read moments before

2) statement without factual proof in an attempt to seem intelligent and further personal agendas of gaining attention at the expense of knowledge is just sad

3) roughly 75% of all statistics are made up more than 50% of the time

No star, No flag, no following.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:41 AM
The majority of those on the list are still conspiracy theories and have not been proven as of to use the term fact in the title of this thread is extreamly misleading.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:50 AM
S&F, ....But.... If you take a look at the "William cooper Zapruder film" which is a full frame shot unlike the popular MSM versions of it... It shows the driver turning and firing a pistol at JFK, pretty amazing check it out!.. I'm not trying to knock your post OP because it's great though. (But listing them as facts here is dangerous IMO

[edit on 20-8-2009 by Solar.Absolution]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 11:53 AM
reply to post by trey85

1) Federal Reserve is not Federal nor a reserve; It illegally stole our currency in 1913.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:16 PM
reply to post by trey85

You're an idiot

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:18 PM

Originally posted by trey85
reply to post by ratcals

I corrected my original post go look .I said they may not be 100% fact but i find most of them to be. I provided a link that discussed most of the issues.Far as calling you a d*** i apologise for it but it came off as you were attacking me.I do welcome you to point out any you find to be false and we will discuss them. I would like to know if any of them are false myself,and we will be sure to point them out for all the following readers.

well, true or not. the first one about the spending on the military... you DO realize dont you, that that is one thing that the Constitution DOES authorize, which is for the government to provide for the common defense. It also says to "promote" the general welfare....not "provide" welfare. So then, if the amount spent on the military sounds like its too much and spends too much tax money, then we need to get rid of most of the welfare programs that the government is supposed to PROMOTE, not PROVIDE.

Then, the military spending will only be a fraction of the income Congress takes from us in taxes.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:21 PM
I don't think the military information is a secret. Everyone knows we spend insane amounts on our military.

You need backup for the information against Bush's. Those are serious allegations.

[edit on 20-8-2009 by nixie_nox]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:45 PM
I think you mean 'those are serious allegations'. There are certainly more than one and being grammatically correct always adds to understanding of what you are trying to say.

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 01:23 PM
Man some of these are funny. Get this one:

"81) US gives the least amount of foreign aid of any western country; .06 of our GNP."

Oh my! .06 seems so little, but let's change that to 6% and it sounds like a decent number now. 6% of our GNP is probably larger than all the other countries combined.

Some of these are true, but some are also long shots and repeats.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 01:26 PM
Unfortunately most, if not all, of this list is cold hard undeniable truth.

You might not like might not want to believe it...but unfortunately your personal feelings and preconceived notions don't change anything...

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 01:47 PM
heres the one about prescott bush:

its true. but it may have been exaggerated.

Bush was one of seven directors of the Union Banking Corporation, an investment bank controlled by the Thyssen family, which was seized in October 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act as being owned by "enemy aliens." The assets were held by the government for the duration of the war, then returned afterward.

In an article relying on John Buchanan's work, The Guardian stated that the company formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world.[8] The Alien Property Custodian records state "Whether all or part of the funds held by Union Banking Corporation, or companies associated with it, belong to Fritz Thyssen could not be established in this investigation." [9] The seizure of companies under the Act were designated "classified" and declassified in 2002 when all similar records were declassified.[10][11][12][13]

In 2003, the Anti-Defamation League responded, saying:
“ Rumors about the alleged Nazi 'ties' of the late Prescott Bush ... have circulated widely through the internet in recent years. These charges are untenable and politically motivated. Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen (who was arrested by the Nazi regime in 1938 and imprisoned during the war), Prescott Bush was neither a Nazi nor a Nazi sympathizer.[8][14] ”

In 2004 The Guardian ran a story about business links between Prescott Bush and "the financial backers of Nazi Germany," while noting that throughout the 1930s these activities were not illegal.[15]

[edit on 8/20/2009 by mahtoosacks]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:18 PM
here's the pearl harbor deal:

By late 1941 U.S. Pacific bases and facilities had been placed on alert on multiple occasions, with hostilities between the U.S. and Japan expected by many observers. U.S. officials doubted Pearl Harbor would be the first target in any war with Japan, instead expecting the Philippines to be attacked first due to the threat it posed to sea lanes to the south[20] and the erroneous belief that Japan was not capable of mounting more than one major naval operation at a time.[21]

seems we knew they WOULD attack because there was too much pressure, but we weren't sure where?

much much more on the subject here:

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:20 PM
the USS Liberty:

completely true

The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a neutral United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli jet fighter planes and motor torpedo boats on June 8, 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two Marines, and a civilian), wounded 171 crew members, and damaged the ship severely. The ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nautical miles (47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.[1]

Shortly after the attack ended, Israel informed the U.S. that its forces had attacked the Liberty in error—a friendly fire incident.

edit to add:

Both the Israeli and American governments conducted inquiries into the incident, and issued reports concluding that the attack was a tragic mistake, caused by confusion about the identity of the USS Liberty. The conclusions reached in the inquiry reports remain controversial, and some veterans and intelligence officials who were involved in the incident continue to dispute the official story, claiming Israel’s attack on the USS Liberty remains the only major maritime incident in American history not investigated by Congress.[10] In May 1968, Israel paid US$3,323,500 as full payment on behalf of the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969 Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980 Israel agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the U.S. claim of $7,644,146 for material damage to the Liberty itself.[11]

On December 17, 1987, the issue was officially closed by the two governments through an exchange of diplomatic notes.

[edit on 8/20/2009 by mahtoosacks]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:29 PM
and the fed:

definitely true

The Federal Reserve System is an independent government institution that has private aspects. The System is not a private organization and does not operate for the purpose of making a profit.[48] The stocks of the regional federal reserve banks are owned by the banks operating within that region and which are part of the system.[49] The System derives its authority and public purpose from the Federal Reserve Act passed by Congress in 1913. As an independent institution, the Federal Reserve System has the authority to act on its own without prior approval from Congress or the President.[50] The members of its Board of Governors are appointed for long, staggered terms, limiting the influence of day-to-day political considerations.[51] The Federal Reserve System's unique structure also provides internal checks and balances, ensuring that its decisions and operations are not dominated by any one part of the system.[51] It also generates revenue independently without need for Congressional funding. Congressional oversight and statutes, which can alter the Fed's responsibilities and control, allow the government to keep the Federal Reserve System in check. Since the System was designed to be independent whilst also remaining within the government of the United States, it is often said to be "independent within the government."[50]

[edit on 8/20/2009 by mahtoosacks]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:40 PM
Where are the credible sources of information to back up these facts?

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:42 PM
WOW! Didn't read all of it, but still that is interesting...

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:42 PM
reply to post by mnmcandiez

its called theres not many, and if you have paid attention, i am trying to fill in the gaps on the big ones. using only wiki as the credible, you can find out the jist of pretty much everything pretty quickly.

you people are lazy, and this article is none better.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 02:47 PM
three mile island:

im thinking true

According to the official figures, as compiled by the 1979 Kemeny Commission from Metropolitan Edison and NRC data, a maximum of 480 petabecquerels (13 million curies) of radioactive noble gases (primarily xenon) were released by the event.[1] However these noble gases were considered relatively harmless,[28] and only 481 to 629 GBq (13 to 17 curies) of thyroid cancer-causing iodine-131 were released.[1] Total releases according to these figures were a relatively small proportion of the estimated 37 EBq (10 billion curies) in the reactor.[28] It was later found that about half the core had melted, and the cladding around 90% of the fuel rods had failed,[6][29] with five feet of the core gone, and around 20 tons of uranium flowing to the bottom head of the pressure vessel.[30] However, the reactor vessel maintained integrity and contained the damaged fuel.[31]

However, the official figures are not uncontested. Independent measurements provided evidence of radiation levels up to five times higher than normal in locations hundreds of miles downwind from TMI.[32][33][unreliable source?] According to Randall Thompson, the lead health physicist at TMI after the accident (a veteran of the US Navy nuclear submarine program and a self-confessed "nuclear geek"), radiation releases were hundreds if not thousands of times higher.[28][34] Some other insiders, including Arnie Gundersen, a former nuclear industry executive turned whistle-blower,[35] concur; Gundersen offers evidence, based on pressure monitoring data, for a hydrogen explosion shortly before 2 p.m. on 28 March 1979, which would have provided the means for a high dose of radiation to occur.[28][unreliable source?] Gundersen cites affidavits from four reactor operators according to which the plant manager was aware of a dramatic pressure spike, after which the internal pressure dropped to outside pressure. Gundersen also notes that the control room shook and doors were blown off hinges. However official NRC reports refer merely to a "hydrogen burn." [28] The Kemeny Commission referred to "a burn or an explosion that caused pressure to increase by 28 pounds per square inch in the containment building".[36] The Washington Post reported that "At about 2 p.m., with pressure almost down to the point where the huge cooling pumps could be brought into play, a small hydrogen explosion jolted the reactor."[37]

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 04:32 PM
reply to post by ah...dehavilland

It was a typo that I could of easily fixed and will, without the rudeness.

posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 07:38 PM
reply to post by mnmcandiez

Wikipedia is the credible source, of course!!

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