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Top 50 living US War Criminals, and how to find them

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:14 AM
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This thread is to bring attention to the living US war criminals that are currently unprosecuted and responsible for the atrocities in Afghanistan and Iraq, and to help bring them to justice.

The list does not include low-ranking employees or troops who managed to stray from official criminal policies. It includes the makers of those policies.




The occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan have seen the United States target civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, use antipersonnel weapons including cluster bombs in densely settled urban areas, use white phosphorous as a weapon, use depleted uranium weapons, employ a new version of napalm found in Mark 77 firebombs, engage in collective punishment of Iraqi civilian populations -- including by blocking roads, cutting electricity and water, destroying fuel stations, planting bombs in farm fields, demolishing houses, and plowing down orchards -- detain people without charge or legal process without the rights of prisoners of war, imprison children, torture, and murder.


The list also contains locations and addresses of their whereabouts so that they can be nonviolently protested wherever they go. An example of the types of people on the list:




John Yoo: Professor of Law at Boalt Hall School of Law in Berkeley, California, with house at 1241 Grizzly Peak Blvd., Berkeley, (but a lawyer with the Pennsylvania bar from which he should be disbarred and would be if enough people demanded it) counseled the White House on how to get away with war crimes, wrote this memo promoting presidential power to launch aggressive war, and claimed the power to decree that the federal statutes against torture, assault, maiming, and stalking do not apply to the military in the conduct of the war, and to announce a new definition of torture limiting it to acts causing intense pain or suffering equivalent to pain associated with serious physical injury so severe that death, organ failure or permanent damage resulting in loss of significant body functions will likely result. Yoo claimed in 2005 that a president has the right to enhance an interrogation by crushing the testicles of someone's child. Yoo has been confronted in his classroom: video, and defended by the Washington Post, and again confronted in the classroom.



Here is a short video of Yoo being confronted in his classroom while he is lecturing:



Now for the actual list:

Click Here

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:36 AM
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For real.... You’re going to biotch about American War criminals. Really don’t you have something better to do? Why don’t you complain about the dudes we are fighting employing kids or women as suicide bombers? Or how if a US soldier is captured it’s almost guaranteed he will die. For real get a grip....and by the way your URL is a spam website. Yoo is a teacher and those people were Idiots for disrupting class, if you’re going to protest then protest but not in the classroom were learning is done. And they don’t have to take this mans class if they don’t agree with his beliefs.

Simply amazing.

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:43 AM
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Thanks for the thread, people still doesn't get it, the war against Afghanistan was nothing but a hoax to get into Iraq.

Deception in order to rape a nation of their resources, they have all the rights to fight back with everything they have.

Get it people we were deceived to believe that Iraq was the enemy, the only enemy was the oil that was in the rightful hands of the nations citizens.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:47 AM
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Hey um last time I checked we diddnt take any Oil from Iraq, as a matter of fact Iraqis control there goverment AND oil.... so ummm you were saying?

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:49 AM
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S&F! I was going to say, "Oh dear, you're going to get some serious flaming for this!", but I see its started already.
But but but... they did this & that so they're bad! So you shouldn't mention anything we do coz coz... they're bad! So we must be good coz we're agin em!
ROFL!



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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I am not the most supportive of the US War Effort anymore, but I disagree with posting personal info (addresses etc.) online.


Einstein had a role in the invention of the Nuclear Bomb ... should he have been prosecuted as a War Criminal?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:55 AM
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Bill Clinton bombed Iraq once a year... Lord Barry has increase soldiers in Afgan and as Not With Drawn one American Soldier from Iraq... There War Criminals to... Also Barry has allowed Kabul and other "CIA" prisons to be kept running, Including GITMO try his arse to....



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:02 AM
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I never said the what happen to some of the prisoners was right.... But what does piss me off is people like you and the OP, yell and scream about war criminals (Americans) and totally neglected the other side and there attroictes they have commited.

Let me tell something to you I saw first Saddams Prison camp and torture chambers, I spoke to Iraqis who were prisoned just for speaking out, I Saw SADDAMS MASS GRAVES, I saw Al-Qauida torture chambers, I saw Iraqis (who were Kidnapped by al-quida) mutliated bodies, I scrapped dead kids off the side of the road because there FATHER or MOTHER would not Toe Al-Sadr's line, I witnessed first HAND THE HORRORS of WAR on both sides. WAR IS A BITCH. And dont give me the tired old excuse that none of this would have happened if we never went there. Because that ass-clown Saddam would still be in power and still keeping Iraqis throats under his FOOT.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:09 AM
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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:21 AM
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Really? you mean by proxy, as usual they control now what the highest bid bring the most money for the ones now in the upper class that rules the Iraqi nation.

Do some research on your own and stop listening to the media circus.

The whole fiasco of the take over of Iraqi oil at the expenses of American lives and Iraqis lives is rightfully gone Awry.

That is what the Thieves in our government deserve and that is what they got.

Still they have the Iraqi oil on a dead end and with no progress as long as the Iraqi government doesn't bend to US deals.

But the Iraqi government is learning from the best deceiver government in the world and now the Thieves wants the Rats to give away better deals for the enrichment of the pockets of those in power in Iraq at the expenses of the Iraqi people.

What the news doesn't report anymore

How the Bush Administration€™s Iraqi Oil Grab Went Awry (September 25, 2007)

www.globalpolicy.org...


The Iraqi constitution of 2005, greatly influenced by US advisor's, contains language that guarantees a major role for foreign companies. Negotiators hope soon to complete deals on Production Sharing Agreements that will give the companies control over dozens of fields, including the fabled super-giant Majnoon. But first the Parliament must pass a new oil sector investment law allowing foreign companies to assume a major role in the country. The US has threatened to withhold funding as well as financial and military support if the law does not soon pass. Although the Iraqi cabinet endorsed the draft law in July 2007, Parliament has balked at the legislation. Most Iraqis favor continued control by a national company and the powerful oil workers union strongly opposes de-nationalization. Iraq's political future is very much in flux, but oil remains the central feature of the political landscape.


Now the Iraqi thieves in government has learned that their resources are worth more than the US will be willing to died, invade and kill for so they want more They want full control of their oil without US intervention and binding contracts

Iraqi oil is at a stand still because now is too many interest involved/

So the invasion and death of Iraqis and Americans soldiers was for nothing as Iraq oil is still after the US invested $1.83 billion into Iraq's oil sector in the past five years to rebuild pipelines and other infrastructure.

Tax payers money.

Iraq to Give 82% of Proven Oil Reserves to International Oil Companies

Posted by Staff, Iraq Oil Report at 3:02 AM on October 5, 2008.


After the snub of the biding contracts proposed for the control of the Iraqi oil by US companies only the violence started to raise again, because iraq is now allowing foreign companies from China and Russia to bid along side US.


Iraq’s Oil Ministry Oct. 13 will not only take a major step forward to bringing foreign oil companies into Iraq’s nationalized oil sector. Beyond beginning a bidding process for a handful of key oil and gas fields, the ministry will outline a second group of oil and gas fields up for grabs by International Oil Companies.


They made a big booboo Iraqi oil ministry excluded the UK companies from bidding.


Iraq has approved a $3 billion contract awarded last week by the ministry of oil to Chinese


So much for the great American invasion.


www.alternet.org...







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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:28 AM
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reply to post by marg6043
 


So that means that Iraqis control there goverment and America dooes not... Thank you for proving my point.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:32 AM
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Thats all you have?


I dont have all the evidence to say they are or arent war criminals and thats up to the US courts to decided not you, or the media, or me....

The victors write history, so most likely none of them will be held accountable in an American court of Law or even in a miltary tribunal.

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posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:42 AM
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No it means that Iraqi government is just another self centered government that will enrich their pockets at the expenses of their own people's need.

While US will find ways to keep that oil from been profitable for the foreign interest groups that now Will grace the Iraqi pristine sands in search for oil

Since this happen and US got snub out of all deals Iraq has fallen into a violence rage of bombings and civilian casualties.

Up to this day Iraq oil production is at a stand still and will stay at a stand still until their prop up government finally bend to US wishes.

Wave of explosions in Baghdad kill at least 75

www.mediacomtoday.com...



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:46 AM
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Really? Iraqs oil production is at a stand still where did you hear that from?


www.timesonline.co.uk...
www.iraqoilreport.com...

Just curious....



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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Wake up oil production in Iraq is controlled, plain and simple.

They produce what the UK and the US allow them to produced for sustenance, profitable is not.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:56 AM
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Americas tax payer give away to support Iraq as this year 2009 budget expectations.

If Iraq oil was so profitable we will not be wasting tax payer money in Iraq right now.

They have enough oil to be selfsufficient.


Total Outlays By U.S.

Security - $24.43 billion
$21.18 billion obligated
$18.58 billion expended
$3.24 billion unspent
$6.84 billion for equipment and transportation
$5.79 billion for infrastructure
$5.67 billion for training and operations
$2.42 billion for sustainment
$1.72 billion for rule of law
$1.0 billion for other

Infrastructure - $11.82 billion
$11.41 billion obligated
$10.86 billion expended
$553 million unspent

Infrastructure – Electricity - $5.09 billion
$4.98 billion obligated
$4.75 billion spent

Infrastructure – Water and Sanitation - $2.25 billion
$2.17 billion obligated
$2.01 billion spent

Infrastructure – Oil and Gas - $2.05 billion
$1.93 billion obligated
$1.88 billion spent

Infrastructure – Other - $1.31 billion

Infrastructure – Transportation and Communication - $1.12 billion
$1.09 billion obligated
$965 million spent

Governance - $7.02 billion
$5.64 billion spent
$2.38 billion obligated for capacity development
$1.92 billion obligated for democracy and civil society
$1.88 billion obligated for public services
$0.81 billion obligated for humanitarian relief

Economy - $1.47 billion
$1.25 billion spent

SOURCES

Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction, “Asset-Transfer Process for Iraq Reconstruction Projects Lacks Unity and Accountability,” 4/26/09
- “Hard Lessons,” 1/22/09
- “Quarterly Report to the United States Congress,” 4/30/09

Reality check



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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But in one of your posts you said they gave china a contract? that does sound like controlling to me.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Bunken Drum
 

I never said the what happen to some of the prisoners was right.... But what does piss me off is people like you and the OP, yell and scream about war criminals (Americans) and totally neglected the other side and there attroictes they have commited.


Sorry, what? Just because I didn't mention any atrocities that "they" have committed, doesn't mean I'm neglecting their side of the story.

The plain and simple point I was trying to make by starting this thread is to show who is primarily responsible for the atrocities that the US have committed in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm sure most people would like to be aware of these people, rather than just Bush who everyone is already aware of.

The fact of the matter is that the people on the list are promoting criminal and inhumane activities, which by your tone you seem to condone. Two wrongs don't make a right, and if "they" have done just as bad (if not worse), then by all means yell and scream about it because they should be brought to justice as well. Even so, the US war criminals' actions will still not be justified, and therefore you still haven't given me any reason to stop this thread.

However, I hope your list of war criminals doesn't start with Bin Laden, or you would be rather naïve to say the least. If it's legitimate, then you'll find that I'm not actually on opposition with you as you currently presume.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet reply to post by Bunken Drum
 
I never said the what happen to some of the prisoners was right
No indeed, you said:

For real.... You’re going to biotch about American War criminals. Really don’t you have something better to do? Why don’t you complain about the dudes we are fighting
What does that mean except that fluffy shouldn't mention what US war criminals have done?

But what does piss me off is people like you and the OP, yell and scream about war criminals (Americans) and totally neglected the other side and there attroictes
"Yell and scream", eh? Yet you were the 1 using caps-lock emphasis, not us. Even if I personally was a child-molesting serial-killer, I would be correct in stating that doing so is wrong & no amount of evidence of other peoples misdeeds would invalidate my statement. Especially given that the western MSM is full of info about atrocities committed by enemies, I cant see it as incumbent upon fluffy to post about both sides: the info is out there; this is alternative mainly ignored info.

Because that ass-clown Saddam would still be in power
Maybe he would. However, getting rid of him as a reason for war is illegal:

In his legal advice to British Prime Minister Tony Blair on the legality of the Iraq war, Attorney General Lord Goldsmith describes regime change in Iraq as a disproportionate response to Saddam Hussein's alleged failure to disarm, illegal in the eyes of international law. Goldsmith stresses that in terms of legality, "regime change cannot be the objective of military action."

International Law Aspects of the Iraq War
Plenty of good info there about the specifics of war crimes, but to simplify: illegal war = ordering it or taking part is a war crime.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by fluffy

Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Bunken Drum
 

I never said the what happen to some of the prisoners was right.... But what does piss me off is people like you and the OP, yell and scream about war criminals (Americans) and totally neglected the other side and there attroictes they have commited.


Sorry, what? Just because I didn't mention any atrocities that "they" have committed, doesn't mean I'm neglecting their side of the story.

The plain and simple point I was trying to make by starting this thread is to show who is primarily responsible for the atrocities that the US have committed in Afghanistan and Iraq. I'm sure most people would like to be aware of these people, rather than just Bush who everyone is already aware of.

The fact of the matter is that the people on the list are promoting criminal and inhumane activities, which by your tone you seem to condone. Two wrongs don't make a right, and if "they" have done just as bad (if not worse), then by all means yell and scream about it because they should be brought to justice as well. Even so, the US war criminals' actions will still not be justified, and therefore you still haven't given me any reason to stop this thread.

However, I hope your list of war criminals doesn't start with Bin Laden, or you would be rather naïve to say the least. If it's legitimate, then you'll find that I'm not actually on opposition with you as you currently presume.



you are right I am very much against Torture of an prisoners. But I think some of the people to included Yoo, argue that infact some of the methods used were in fact not torture. I never tortures a prisoner nor Would I allow any "Harsh actions" to be taking on my watch. The fact is you cannot point your finger at a group of Americans and call them Criminals and not include the other side as well.... That is why I got pissed off, you just cant thats what makes alot of people mad.. You blame one but not the other.

In fact Bin Laden is at the top of my List as a war criminal. He is the head of an organization that spreads terror by means of killing innocent people. Now if you think 9/11 was an inside job thats fine, I personally dont think are goverment is capable enough to pull something like that off, now if they allowed it to happen thats a different story.



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