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Originally posted by brygivrob
It is not God that is doing all the bad stuff. It is Satan.
There is goodness and wonder and beauty everywhere. There is also terror. We bring into each of our lives mostly what we think about. One can stick his head in the toilet and complain that God made the world stinky and ugly. But one can enjoy the beauties of life mostly, and pray for others, and serve others, to alleviate their pains.
But who is Satan really? God's agent. We all must be tested. We all must choose.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by Republican08
I think i can help you.
It may sound like New Age but i think it's the truth.
There is a God.
In heaven he is known as the spirit father.
He hangs out in the Throne Room along with about 40 escorting angels.
He gave us 5 God like powers:
The Power of Imagination
The Power of Intelligence
The Power of Creation
The Power of Free Will
and The Power to Love.
The power of free will is causing the problems you talked about
in your post.
Before we can know joy, we must know sorrow.
The choice is ours. Do good works or evil works.
A good book to give you peace of mind would be:
The Soul's Remembrance by Roy Mills.
It can be found at Amazon.com
Roy remembers heaven before he was born here on Earth.
He was born without a "veil of forgetfulness".
I had an incredible Deja vu feeling when i read it.
I hope i have helped you.
[edit on 19-8-2009 by Eurisko2012]
Originally posted by The Parallelogram
What about the possibility of a God who didn't directly create us, one who possibly has very little or even no interest in us as a species, much less as individuals?
Why couldn't it have just created the basic laws of physics and a whole mess of hydrogen, and then let things be?
This isn't what I believe, per se, but I don't see why we give ourselves so much credit as to believe that of all the wonders of our Universe, we are the creator's favorite children.
Read some literature produced by a Deist. or some Lovecraft. either one kind of makes the same point.
Originally posted by LocoHombre
my thoughts are that if divine powers DO exist, then all the suffering and diseases, and every other horrible thing in the universe was THEIR doing, then do you honestly believe that these are powers in need of worship? NO! they should be rebelled against, un-deified, and have their temples brought crashing towards earth.
Originally posted by Melissa101
reply to post by nonnez
Posted on page one of this thead:
Yes the world is an awful shape. It is heart wrenching. Jesus Christ is on his way and will be here soon. "Thank God" The world in it's current state cannot go on. In Mathew 24:21-22 Jesus states that world will be in great tribulation and if if the days are not cut short no flesh (human) will survive. I think we are reaching the tribulation period. The Bible also tells us not to worry about these things that it must come to pass. OK I am human and I worry, it is our nature. But God has not gone anywhere, he is not sick or blind, he is watching and he will intervene. The thing is our world is ruled by Satan right now. You can see it everywhere. It is apparent on TV, in the news and in the things you described. One of Satans many ploys is to turn us away from God by saying look at all these terrible things how can God do this, Where is your God?
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
I guess I'll go ahead and take an agnostic view on this...it's a difficult question. In fact, it's an impossible question. We can't and will not know the answers in this existence.
I do believe in someof the typical "copouts" as someone mentioned. I do believe we were separated from God as one in the beginning and because of that it is easier for us to be manipulated by evil. I also believe that as humans we have natural evil inside of us. Free will, IMO, seems to be one of those evils, as awkward as that sounds.
Also, I think that God as an omnipotent being is much more than we can ever even fathom. That's why he simply asks for faith. Faith does not have any other prerequiites. One does not have to know or experience or any of the other physical perceptions in order to maintain faith.
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Originally posted by Republican08
reply to post by romanmel
I don't know, if you detest me, or what lol, from the reply on my comment box?
Nonetheless, you speak alot of responsibility have you seen this.