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Australia Proposes No Warrant "Terrorism" Raids




Topic started on 18-8-2009 @ 09:18 PM by dallas18


Australia Proposes No Warrant "Terrorism" Raids


www.abc.net.au

The Federal Government has unveiled plans to toughen its counter-terrorism laws, including a change to allow police to break into a suspect’s home without getting approval from a judge.

“The Government is committed to ensuring the focus of Australia’s national security and counter-terrorism laws remains on preventing a terrorist attack from occurring in the first place,” he said.

But some argue toughening the laws would have the opposite effect.

Nicola McGarrity from the Terrorism Law Project at the University of New South Wales says the laws could take away the protection of
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 09:18 PM by dallas18


Thanks Osama bin Laden! This could be used on a wide variety of things. What defines terrorism?

If the Australian media ever starts reporting on "Caucasian Al Qaeda members", virtually all white Australians will be potential suspects and thus you will finally feel the sting when the police are kicking in your door without a warrant all because one of their informants made up that you had suspect material in your house. It won't matter if that informant completely lied, you're looking at jail time on unrelated charges (illegal guns, illegal drugs, anything illegal - even planting evidence) and it will be seen as a successful operation.

This comment sums it up well:

The terrorists must be celebrating at this news. I bet they love seeing their actions causing governments to abandon fundamental rights and freedoms and begin to turn on their own citizens.


Sorry if this has been posted.

The time police can hold terror suspects will be limited and there’ll be a new offence for inciting race-based violence if the government goes ahead with a raft of changes to Australias terror laws. The changes up for discussion do involve some toughening of the laws, including expanding emergency search powers and changing the definition of terrorism to include psychological as well as physical harm.


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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 09:43 PM by hotrodturbo7


Sounds like time to stand up to me!!!

If I had some extra freedom fighting tools, I would send them.



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 09:47 PM by exile1981


To our Australian brothers... I'm sorry they are moving against you this quickly. You need to take back your gov't.



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 09:56 PM by Agit8dChop


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I have a question.
If, they break into my house under some fantasy theory of me being affiliated with Alqaeda, find nothing on me during there computer search, house search and questioning...

will I then be held for pirated software/music and fined?



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:08 PM by dallas18


Originally posted by Agit8dChop
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I have a question.
If, they break into my house under some fantasy theory of me being affiliated with Alqaeda, find nothing on me during there computer search, house search and questioning...

will I then be held for pirated software/music and fined?




i'm not too sure. it wouldn't suprise me. but with the national internet filter coming soon, it will make it a lot easier for them to track if you have obtained any illegal software or music no doubt.



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:33 PM by audas


They can talk about it all they like, wont happen.

Australia simply has too many check in place to allow warrant less searches - any person charged would be immediately let go with all charges dropped - this kind of legislation simply doesn't stand a chance.



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:45 PM by infolurker


How about a new concept... stop letting people from "terrorist producing / sympathetic" countries immigrate to your country? Ever hear of "common sense"?

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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:48 PM by Terranaut


Personally this doesn't worry me in the slightest. I think a lot of people are being paranoid here and only looking at worst case scenarios. In all probability, they wont use this power to shaft the average joe.

If it allows them to apprehend the terrorist scum with more ease, then I'm all for it. Let those Muslim whackjobs sweat on it!

Unless your activities could be construed as terrorist, you have absolutely nothing to worry bout.

Terranaut



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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 11:33 PM by Agit8dChop


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Dont be ridiculous.
Who else could we get to work for $1.26 per hour?

www.theage.com.au...

A security guard at last year's Australian Open tennis championship who was paid just $1.26 an hour for more than 150 hours of work has successfully sued his former employers for more than $115,000.

Pakistani immigrant Faisal Durrani, 25, was verbally abused by his boss when he complained about being underpaid at the Australian Open in January 2008.



We need slave labour, and obviously us Australians are too good for that!



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