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posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:12 PM
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Propaganda has been around since the first reliable records existed. It has been used for everything from keeping people working long hours during war efforts, to political reasons. There have also been many forms of delivery for propaganda efforts; The common man, disinformation, stereotyping, and repetition just to name a few.

What kinds of propaganda do you think there will be as the end unfolds? What kind of propaganda will the New World Order be spreading (other than what they already are!) What was, or is, some of the best propaganda that is out their right now in your opinion (Govt, media, political party, etc).

For instance:

"Drink more Nukacola!" just kidding.....

"Support your local Security Police"

"Do your duty, turn in those not loyal to the party"

"FEMA.....you can count on us"

"NWO, your New Washington Operatives"

I am just curious to see what the ATS'ers can come up with!



[edit on 18-8-2009 by desertdreamer]




posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:33 PM
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I snuck in the DNC office and saw this sign that they are preparing to post in a neighborhood near you!


Looking for a fun activity?
Looking for a way to make extra money?
Want to impress people and make them love you?

Turn in your neighbor!

That's right folks, simply by turning in your neighbor for having unpopular thoughts, or if he has the american flag hidden in his basement, you too can have all the freedom we are willing to give you!

Impress the girls!
Have that evil corporate boss give you that raise you didn't deserve!
Turn in your neighbors NOW!

for more information please contact us at www.hugsfromyourgovernment.commie



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:35 PM
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Ha Ha....sounds like Orwell! The thought police!



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:40 PM
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I'm sure "1984" has been an inspiration for too many people.

It's supposed to be a horrific message, not something people in DC see and go, "Hmmm, I hope someone is taking notes."



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:49 PM
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for more information please contact us at www.hugsfromyourgovernment.commie


Oh my, I need that laugh!

Did you know that Marx is buried in a Commie plot? I need to bring him flowers Poison Ivy perhaps??



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 10:03 PM
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What "end" are you talking about? The end of the world? The end of the United States?

Propaganda will be as it already is, except it will refer to different things. Right now we have plenty of propaganda - "Buckle up", "Click it or ticket", that sort of thing. "Only you can prevent forest fires". "This is your brain on drugs".

Do you think propaganda is as blatant as it was fifty years ago, or as the Soviets were doing it? "It is heroic to work for the Soviet People". "Comrade Stalin says work hard. (Or else)". "A tractor a day keeps the KGB away" (I made up that last one). Of course, we had our "The world cannot be half free and half enslaved".

Propaganda is subtle. Back in 1954, the US was freaking out about the Soviet Union. We couldn't come up with many reasons why Communism was so awful, and our political system so great. Communism *looked* good, at least on paper. What makes our way so different? Someone figured out, "God". Communism was Godless; they were materialists, didn't even want people going to church. So we hammered on the Godless Commies. We even changed our Pledge of Allegiance to insert the words "under God", "One nation, under God...".

That's propaganda. No one questioned it then, though that was a violation of the separation of church and state. To question it would make you look like a Commie, and that would have been bad for you.

Of course, most propaganda is far more subtle than that. You're really not going to see many posters saying, "Report irregularities to Big Brother", or "Report those chanting wierdos". It will be more subtle, presented as news, documentaries, docu-dramas, movies, and other entertainment. It will show up in supposed debates that argue over some trivial point, while making unspoken assumptions that are never challenged. Kind of like arguing whether it's better to bomb Iran or N. Korea first, without deciding whether we should be bombing anyone.

When we look back in history, we may smile at the naive and simple propaganda efforts of the past. How could anyone fall for such crap? Rosie the Riveter, "Loose lips sink ships", so blatant. Yes, it is blatant to us, now. Back then the audience was more naive, the propaganda more blatantly obvious. It's like special effects. When I was a kid, Godzilla looked pretty realistic. Now I just laugh. But as we've become more sophisticated, so has our government. Never forget that. They're not just a bunch of bumbling fools. They've had decades to learn psychological techniques, advertising tricks, all kinds of things to help them control the masses. They can still fool us, because they've gotten more sophisticated, just as we have.

My solution is to avoid mass media almost altogether, except ATS and a few news sources on the Internet. Even then, I seek news not just from the US, but from other countries, especially countries that don't much like us and won't use the same lies. They'll tell different lies. Of course, they all lie.

Propaganda today works on the subconscious. If you're immersed in the mass media - watching TV, reading the papers, or the MSM on the Internet - you're probably getting a brain full of government-approved thoughts every day. Half - heck, maybe almost *all* the conspiracy theories could be government disinformation intended to confuse and discredit the occasional true conspiracy out there. Throw out enough crap, and no one is going to bother looking for the rare diamond that might be in it.

All the government has to do to start a conspiracy theory is to deny something - anything at all. They only have to announce that there was absolutely *NOTHING* that happened agt Area 49. There was no debris from an unidentified craft. There were no witnesses or sightings. Next thing you know, people will be screaming for the truth, demanding that the government release all records about Area 49, under the FOIA. Say they fight that - OK, they eventually lose, and are forced to release the records. There's nothing in them, because in reality there never was any incident there. People will sceam "coverup!". No matter what happens, there will be a self-sustained conspiracy theory trying to get to the truth of Area 49. And while everyone is barking about Area 49, the government is pulling something over at Area 51 or wherever. The beauty of it is, the government doesn't have to fabricate any evidence. They don't have to do a blessed thing except *deny* the existence of evidence. That alone will get people screaming for the government to release it.

Think I'm full of it? Maybe I am. But how would you ever know? Maybe they already did that with Area 51, created a whole cottage industry of conspiracy theories in order to deflect attention and energy from something somewhere else.

In my worst moments, I sometimes wonder whether they created ATS, in order to gather together the most vocal and skeptical people to keep an eye on them. I hoe I'm wrong. Now I'll go take my medicine...



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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How about "Cash for Codgers!"



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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Mike,
Why do you insist on bringing your politics into this?

The OP was talking about propaganda, not RNC v. DNC. Is that all you see? I get it, you don't support the leftist socialist commie pinko liberal democrats, Ok,Ok. Now, give it rest, seriously. The Patriotic God Fearing Real American Hero Republicans have used propaganda as well, and we (yes, I'm a Republican) have even had our own Orwellian moments, Do Warrantless Wiretaps, and Suspension of Habeus Corpus ring any bells? This administration is no different than the rest, and they have all used propaganda and media manipulation to get their messages across.

Back on topic: In my opinion it's the "dark side" of corporate advertising and marketing. The corporations that own the media outlets have become so good at targeted advertising campaigns, that it didn't take much to go from selling "Drink Coke," to turning their "news" departments into the perfect public relations machines for big business, big government, and big lies. The kind of lies that are so big that they are hard to see.

To illustrate: If you can reach enough people with a lie it will seem to most people that surely if their friends and neighbors believe what they are being told then it must be true. Thus, no evidence has to be given in evidence of the veracity of the statement. Example: If I were to say "Britney Spears, Lyndsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and Kim Kardashian are talented singers and actresses." Hopefully, you would say "No, they are not." But, if MTV, E, BET, VH1, Disney and the rest report on them daily, and sell their schlock as if it is good and worthwhile, then the sheeple will buy it up like good candy.

As far as propaganda goes, if the media can sell the masses dumbed down shows like "The Hills," then it becomes very easy for the news departments to sell Headlines like "Obama is a Kenyan Socialist who wants to kill your Grandma, Film at 11." Or, "Republicans are all hillbilly, racist, fundamentalists, details after the break." If you believe either of those your may want to turn your personal propaganda filter on high.



[edit on 19-8-2009 by Artephius Abraxas Helios]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:37 AM
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Join or Die!


It is my favourite.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by chiron613


What "end" are you talking about? The end of the world? The end of the United States?


First off, thanks for your response. Looks like you have some interesting points. I guess what I was thinking when I said "the end" was when martial law has been enacted, or when the basic necessities begin to run out, when the government really starts using FEMA camps and the military on the general public in earnest. I guess when things really start to deteriorate in a rapid fashion, because we are not there yet.


Propaganda will be as it already is, except it will refer to different things. Right now we have plenty of propaganda - "Buckle up", "Click it or ticket", that sort of thing. "Only you can prevent forest fires". "This is your brain on drugs".


You are correct, we do have a huge amount of propaganda right now, but I believe that it will take a more ominous tone once things begin to deteriorate. This thread was not only meant to provoke peoples thoughts and get their opinions, but to see what other people think that the actual propaganda will say, or be about. Some will be funny sayings, and some will be more serious.


Do you think propaganda is as blatant as it was fifty years ago, or as the Soviets were doing it? "It is heroic to work for the Soviet People". "Comrade Stalin says work hard. (Or else)". "A tractor a day keeps the KGB away" (I made up that last one). Of course, we had our "The world cannot be half free and half enslaved".

Propaganda is subtle. Back in 1954, the US was freaking out about te Soviet Union. We couldn't come up with many reasons why Communism was so awful, and our political system so great. Communism *looked* good, at least on paper. What makes our way so different? Someone figured out, "God". Communism was Godless; they were materialists, didn't even want people going to church. So we hammered on the Godless Commies. We even changed our Pledge of Allegiance to insert the words "under God", "One nation, under God...".

That's propaganda. No one questioned it then, though that was a violation of the separation of church and state. To question it would make you look like a Commie, and that would have been bad for you.


Excellent examples. I do believe that propaganda is worse today than it ever was. WWII, Vietnam, and the Cold War are excellent examples of different types of propaganda.


Of course, most propaganda is far more subtle than that. You're really not going to see many posters saying, "Report irregularities to Big Brother", or "Report those chanting wierdos". It will be more subtle, presented as news, documentaries, docu-dramas, movies, and other entertainment. It will show up in supposed debates that argue over some trivial point, while making unspoken assumptions that are never challenged. Kind of like arguing whether it's better to bomb Iran or N. Korea first, without deciding whether we should be bombing anyone.


So do you think that because propaganda is more subtle, that there may be a little bit of subliminal messaging mixed in with it? It is interesting that government and big media have figured out that they do not have to just send blatant propaganda over the airwaves anymore......maybe they are using select types of shows to get their message across. Would you have any examples of what you think some may be?


My solution is to avoid mass media almost altogether, except ATS and a few news sources on the Internet. Even then, I seek news not just from the US, but from other countries, especially countries that don't much like us and won't use the same lies. They'll tell different lies. Of course, they all lie.


Well, ATS is now just as big as mass media. I love coming here, but you have to take everything with a grain of salt. All media is controlled I believe, I am not sure that anyone can ever get the whole truth anymore.


Propaganda today works on the subconscious.


My thoughts exactly!


All the government has to do to start a conspiracy theory is to deny something - anything at all. They only have to announce that there was absolutely *NOTHING* that happened agt Area 49. There was no debris from an unidentified craft. There were no witnesses or sightings. Next thing you know, people will be screaming for the truth, demanding that the government release all records about Area 49, under the FOIA. Say they fight that - OK, they eventually lose, and are forced to release the records. There's nothing in them, because in reality there never was any incident there. People will sceam "coverup!". No matter what happens, there will be a self-sustained conspiracy theory trying to get to the truth of Area 49. And while everyone is barking about Area 49, the government is pulling something over at Area 51 or wherever. The beauty of it is, the government doesn't have to fabricate any evidence. They don't have to do a blessed thing except *deny* the existence of evidence. That alone will get people screaming for the government to release it.


This gives way to the "who knows where it begins, and who knows where it ends?" theory, for that matter, "who knows what is the real truth anymore?"


Think I'm full of it? Maybe I am.


No, I think this is a very informative answer, and probably not far from the truth.


In my worst moments, I sometimes wonder whether they created ATS, in order to gather together the most vocal and skeptical people to keep an eye on them.


That is a whole other post all together! LOL.....



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by Artephius Abraxas Helios


In my opinion it's the "dark side" of corporate advertising and marketing. The corporations that own the media outlets have become so good at targeted advertising campaigns, that it didn't take much to go from selling "Drink Coke," to turning their "news" departments into the perfect public relations machines for big business, big government, and big lies. The kind of lies that are so big that they are hard to see.


Do you think that the government is actually running the media, or is just providing "guidance"? For instance, do you believe that the government is using strong arm tactics at the top of the media chain, or do you think that they have some sort of CIA or NSA "training" program that is meant to show media executives what they want and how to pass it on to the sheeple public?


To illustrate: If you can reach enough people with a lie it will seem to most people that surely if their friends and neighbors believe what they are being told then it must be true. Thus, no evidence has to be given in evidence of the veracity of the statement. Example: If I were to say "Britney Spears, Lyndsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, and Kim Kardashian are talented singers and actresses." Hopefully, you would say "No, they are not." But, if MTV, E, BET, VH1, Disney and the rest report on them daily, and sell their schlock as if it is good and worthwhile, then the sheeple will buy it up like good candy.


An excellent and lighthearted look at this type of social experiment was the video of that dancing guy at the Sasquatch music festival. Everyone thought he was a loon, until a few people joined him......then everyone found it acceptable. Here is that video;



Thanks for the response Artephius.


[edit on 19-8-2009 by Artephius Abraxas Helios]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:21 AM
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Originally posted by Exuberant1
Join or Die!


It is my favourite.



Does not leave much to the imagination....does it?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:10 AM
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Come on people....lets hear some of your best propaganda slogans. Past, present, or future.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:43 PM
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Wow....no takers. I was really interested in hearing some of the suggestions.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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SOMETHING, SOMETHING, SOMETHING. DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE!

Lose your job? Lose your wife and kids due to unemployment?
WE have a solution for you BECOME A dark lord of the sith, Contact your local Military Recruiter!


and if that fails "BE all that you can be, in the ARMY!"

[edit on 19-8-2009 by ashnomadonte]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 09:57 PM
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Life,Liberty and the pursuit of small furry rodents for food. That will be the mantra of the future! Give me liberty or give me your wallet,a man has to make a living somehow!! Seven quarters,four dimes and two nickles as change for a dollar! Now that's "Change we can believe in"



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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M.R.E.'s .......they're not just for breakfast anymore



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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I can think of an example I recently saw on the news no less. They were talking about some protests, I forget where, and they showed footage of some really serious riots with police in armour being assaulted with missiles and there were burnt out cars in the streets. I was shocked and saddened by what I saw only to be told, after a few minutes, that things hadn't gotten this bad yet and that they were showing me footage from a good few years back when they had some serious riots. While they never said the riots on screen were the protests being discussed I felt lied to and I don't doubt that they were trying to stir up emotions.

Unfortunately things like this are not uncommon, I only notice these things because of the satirical works of Chris Morris a man much hated by the press here in the UK. He takes all the tactics the press use and over exaggerate them in mock news show and documentary style. I suggest anyone to find and watch his stuff, The Day Today and Brass Eye are most related to what I'm saying.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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Go read this thread that I just did....it is right up your alley it seems, and sounds alot like the story you spoke of.

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posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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I think it's important to note that when the media uses propaganda it could be for a number of reasons. A classic reason would be to sell more papers, keep people watching and basically make more money. I must admit though that while they certainly use propaganda like techniques for business reasons it doesn't mean they don't use those same techniques for other reasons. It's also important to note that these media outlets are owned by some very rich individuals and I have little doubt that they use the power they hold over people through these outlets to further their agendas and furthering profit is likely only one of their aims.

Another propaganda slogan? "Be Pure, Be Vigilant, Behave!". A star for anyone who genuinely knows where I got it from. Don't cheat using google
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Cheers I will certainly check your other thread out, don't expect a reply though as I tend to only speak up if I feel I can add something worthwhile
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