Could Hemp Save The Planet?, page 14
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reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 03:45 AM by woodwardjnr
Originally posted by Ha`la`tha
reply to
post by woodwardjnr



You are not referring to Industrial Hemp. Please don't get this thread closed by discussion of non-Industrial Hemp.


If the mods find that my story doesn't bring anything to the debate about a plant, with many uses, then I guess I can take my comments being censored by the moderators.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 04:05 AM by Ha`la`tha
reply to post by Psyagra



Hehe, I know.. I just wanted to make sure people who had no idea it was different didn't get the idea it was completely different.

I was suprised to learn that there are states in Australia that allow permits for growing of industrial Hemp too. And we've the most absurd controlled substance laws on the planet. No lies!

As for things with traces of other things in them, it still suprises me that people who drink Coca-cola are still largely unaware that it is continued to be made with spent coca leaves after processing to remove 99.99999% of the cocaine, which is sold on to a single pharmaceutical company.

Yet Hemp, which has far more uses than a tooth rotting sugar filled stimulant, is persecuted to almost extinction.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 04:07 AM by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
Hemp is considered an illegal narcotic in the United States. I started a thread on recent studies of the correlation of cancer and pot smoking. My thread was removed immediately. Why is this one still standing? A double standard at ATS?

Sorry OP, but I am a bit ticked that mine was removed and yours stays. There is no free speech in America and especially not on ATS.

from: masqua
sent: 18-8-2009 at 12:01 AM
It was necessary to move a thread you created titled, If Pot Prevented Cancer You would read about it, Right? which was originally posted in the Medical Issues & Conspiracies forum, to the Trash Bin forum. masqua has initiated this action, and included this message about it:

From the Terms & Conditions:

2e.i) Narcotics and illicit mind-altering substances: Due to abuse of the subject matter by some (promoting various aspects of personal use, and discussing actual personal use), no new topics on this subject are allowed in any form.


[edit on 18-8-2009 by sligtlyskeptical]


It's because you were discussing 'Pot' not hemp. I agree it is a double standard, but I understand the distinction. I do not on the other hand agree with 'not discussing' certain things that are illegal, we talk about all kinds of things on here, I really don't understand why that isn't allowed to be talked about.

As for hemp, seriously interesting. I knew some of the things about it, but I never knew it was so diverse or healthy. Is hemp the 'illegal drug' that can make one of the worlds strongest plastics? I was never sure if it was hemp or possibly the poppy.

Oh well, very informative, keep it alive.

EMM



reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 05:04 AM by iamcamouflage
reply to post by VitalOverdose



I dont think hemp oils best use is for bio diesel. But you can use the fiber for ethanol which i think would be a better use. There are obviously going to be hurdles that must be over come. One poster mentioned that you can use the leaves from the hemp plant to redistribute the nitrogen back into the soil.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 05:16 AM by KRISKALI777
reply to post by calihan_12



Hi calihan,


marijuana has never even killed anyone for christ sake.


Maybe marijuana has not statisticlaly killed anyone directly, but, ever heard of drug related Psychosis?
Drug related psychosis has been the catalyst for many suicides etc.

Of coarse it effects individuals to a different degree. But I would say it is not a good thing to be lapse about; wolf in sheeps clothing.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 05:16 AM by iamcamouflage
reply to post by VitalOverdose



Also, almost every plant sucks nitrogen out of the soil, but it is replaced with the leaves of the plant, fertilizers(bad, made from fossil fuels), or manure.

There is more than enough manure, to fertilize most of our growing needs but most companies resort to manufactured fertilizers, instead of keeping the circle complete.

For home farm, all one needs is a couple goats and chickens to provide all the fertilizer one would need. Turn your soil and prepare two spots for a garden. Set up a moveable chicken coup in one of the prepared areas for a whole summer and plant your garden in the other. The next year, you move the coup to the previous years garden and plant your garden in the area where the chickes were housed the summer before. You can alternate this cycle infinitely.

You can do the same with goats, plus, goats, mow your lawn, provide, milk and cheese, and chickens will provide you with eggs.

This is how farms used to be operated(this is a small scale example)most would have cows or pigs and pile all the manure, then spread it over their fields.



reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 05:59 AM by Oatmeal
reply to post by calihan_12



Unfortunately, I have known this for years, but TPTB are too stupid to do anything good and decent for the people. It is so versatile, I guess they wouldn't make enough money on it. We need Hemp Lobbyists on Capitol Hill !!!



reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 06:52 AM by RogerT
Originally posted by JayinAR
reply to
post by Edrick



As I said, I understand the argument.

But the question is the context of the question.
Meaning, can hemp salvage our current life-style or are we willing to take a HUGE step backwards?

And I think the implications of such a cash-crop based living aren't really thought out by people who are shocked to realize that hemp can purify water.

It literally means the tearing down and restructuring of our entire system.

Personally, for me, I'm not sure.
One hand says burn it down. The other says but we've come so far.



I'm coming in late to this thread, so apologies if I am 'rehasing' - pun intended.

I really don't get this angle - taking a huge step back - why do people believe that sustainable development means giving up technological progress.

I would argue that big business has been holding us back for at least a century in this context.

Energy solutions were being discovered and developed back in the 1900's and before, that would have created an abundant supply of ultra cheap energy for all of makind by now - just think where we would be with this kind of 'free' energy.

Please explain your argument that the re-introduction of a crop such as hemp, with the potential to create so much abundance, reduce polution, level playing fields, make food, energy, materials etc available to everyone etc etc - why do you believe this would take us backwards towards cave-men??
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