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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 10:32 AM by PowerSlave
reply to post by Masonic Light





I don't think it's a matter of secret organizations. It's just the way that capitalism functions. Capitalistic society, by definition, creates a wealthy elite class that runs everything, and everybody else gets screwed.



I guess this post was aimed more toward those who believe in NWO type secret organizations. Not simply capitalistic elite class, but those who are pulling strings in the shadows including government control etc.

There are alot of smart people out there who are not part of the "elite" or "PTB", many such people on this site I am sure, who I could see banding together for the good of the people. Perhaps in the past, such groups have gone on to revolutionary movements.


reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 09:15 PM by PowerSlave
reply to post by JoshNorton





In at least one such case you cite, that group was the Masons. All the Masons on ATS have said again and again that Freemasonry is not NWO elites pulling the strings in the shadow government. But most people on ATS don't listen to us, and I don't know where you fall in that particular argument, so I'm not going to make any assumptions about your take.


Actually I purposely left out masons from the PTB groups I mentioned. For the reasons you mentioned. The problem with freemasonry is its link to the illuminati historically in theory.

If people stayed off the grid in terms of communication with each other regarding their collective ideas and plans to defend against the "elite", I would think it fairly difficult to infiltrate such a group.


reply posted on 19-8-2009 @ 03:41 PM by network dude
reply to post by Masonic Light



that is one thing I can't get. The people who bash Freemasons, always want to lump us in with the Illuminati and yet I can't see how either is a bad thing. The Templar Knights helped people, the masons help people, and the Illuminati was made up of people who needed help. How is any of that bad? I think it's just a huge amount of paranoia and fear of what they don't understand. It's sad that some will never know the truth because they are so blinded by fear.
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