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Originally posted by NatureBoy
Like a condom, an airbag or a shield protects? Or in that they give you the chance to KILL THE OTHER GUY FIRST? See how even if they're being used to 'protect' they're still just fulfilling their function to kill / maim?
How about this one, you get hit by a car - the drive jumps out and says OH MY GOSH CALL A DOCTOR! I idle up from the pavement, cooly i smile and say 'don't worry i have a .44 Magnum!'
haha or think of it thisway, when someone collapses on stage how many times have you heard someone take the mike and say 'is their a gunowner in the house?'
Actually most doctors i've pointed at someone and squeeze have told me to get off them or they'll call the police. I'm sure if i asked my local doctor if he would be my 'protection' while i deal some crack on the street corner he would have me commited. Last time my friends 6yo sneeked into my study and found the doctor laying on the counter he gave her a stern telling off.
Most doctors train to save people, everything they learn is how to help people. A gun is made by people who are trying to create the most stopping power, best range, most accurate sites - all so that it's a better killing machine.
Are you seriously trying to say a doctor is as deadly as a gun?
If you never intended to mow the lawn would you buy a lawnmower? of course you wouldn't! People buy guns because they expect to have to kill someone one day, or they like practiceing or pretending they're killing people. Guns are weapons, if you aren't strong enough to admit that then i really don't think you should have one.
For your scenario my friend what is to stop the guy with a knife from getting everthing he wants? I know you said you know how to defend yourself but your chances against a knife when you are unarmed are not very good. The intruder could get in a lucky shot and then what?
Originally posted by Xtinguish
A gun is indeed a tool.
A wrench is a tool. My screw driver is a tool. My drill is a tool. All can be used as a weapon, but their main function is a tool. They are designed for bolts and screws. My gun is a tool to increase my survival odds in a certain life threatening situation.
My gun is a weapon as well, and a very effective one. I do not wish to carry my gun for any other function then firing a projectile at a life threatening target. Whether this target be some sort of wild animal while I walk my land in northern PA, or someone wishing me or my family harm in the city.
There is no other reason why anyone should own and carry a gun (outside of hunting, but I don't think that is the point here).
[edit on 18-8-2009 by Xtinguish]
Why do you think the police and military carry guns? Go and tell those guys they don't need them, because they aren't for protection.
Right, and are you going to hold up a condom, airbag or shield and say the same thing? Is a condom going to protect you in that place? So does that mean the condom never has a place where it can protect you?
And you say I am the one with tricks? Please.
Same logical fallacy, they are going to pop up and ask if someone has a condom either.
Can be. It's all in which the manner they are used.
I'm not someone who owns a gun, nor do I care to own one, or ever use one again. I am ex-military, so I know very well how to use one. The reason I like guns to be legal is because the person on the other end doesn't know if I have a gun or not. As such, just the very threat that I could be armed provides me with a bit of protection against someone who may want to harm me.
it's not my place to stop them, and I recognize the protection and benefits it provides for me.
Originally posted by Hastobemoretolife
This takes the cake.
Proud "gun nut" right here. I think the facts clearly speak for themselves.
Originally posted by WEOPPOSEDECEPTION
Next time you are ill, don't bother going to see a doctor, they are too dangerous. Instead, take your gun, stick the barrel in your mouth, and pull the trigger. And don't forget, guns don't kill people.
Originally posted by NatureBoy
reply to post by LetTheTruthBeTold
HOw silly of me i forgot that you guy are going to rise up and overthrow your government any day now........ refereshed with the blood of.... yeah, yeah....
Here's how it would pan out now,
"Hey bob how big is the revolutionary army?"
'a million men and their pickup trucks'
'yep we all got hunting rifles and semi automatics'
"and you told the government we're overthrowing them?"
"what's that whistling noise bob?"
'sounds like a cruse missile........'
You are not going to win a revolution with guns, thus you might as well drop that stupid old law.
America might not be europe but last time i checked it was on earth and full of humans, pleed special case all you like - simple fact is your nation would be better without guns.