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Why is Christianity so hated?

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posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 07:29 PM
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Because in my entire life, no religion has hindered my education. my mental health, my goals in life, my feelings of my self, as much as christianity has. Had I lived in a mostly muslim country, it'd probably be islam.

Christianity is dangerous, it makes people unafraid of death, and ready to give up many gifts and experiences that your ONE LIFE has to offer, for a hateful God which lacks any proof of existence.

Since I became an atheist, I've felt a lot better about the world, science, my life, my family, and the way many things are. Atheist reaffirms life, and has affected my life in such a positive manner, in such a little amount of time, that my 10+ years of Christian beliefs didn't even come close to.

This sir, is why. Also, Christians are responsible for conservative politics motives against abortion, against the teaching of evolution, you guys love guns, and are expecting Christ to come a "second time". It's just crazy.




posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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You hit the nail on the head with that response. I, like you, detest the hypocrites as well and the whole sin all week and be faithful on Sunday bunch. This is one of the finest examples as to why people attack Christianity. It is the blatant hypocrisy shown by it's followers. I, like you, have been a witness of the very lot you speak of and it really disappoints me. However, if they chose to live a lie, so be it, because they are the only ones they see when looking in the mirror. However, these very people are found in all faiths and there is really nothing anyone can do about.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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I have personally seen attitudes towards Christianity change during my lifetime. Generally I read all or most posts before I add a comment, but lately, I've decided I don't necessarily need to do that, and I have not in this case. (I have my reasons).

I think much of the hatred has to do with politics. Christians have a tendency to vote on the morality issues, while completely ignoring other more life changing, policy changing events. So it is through their politics, that they make themselves known, and this does not always bode well for them. Some of the politcal ideology comes across as very hateful, and very self-righteous, not to mention it's very unbecoming for those who are committed to loving their fellowman. It truely is beginning to come across as a religion of exclusion and a righteousness which is hard to swallow.

It's a mutation of what it once was, and not a pretty one.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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One word History. and not that claptrap revisionist history that comes out of Pat Robertson and all those TV preachers.



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
But what people fail to see is that every religion, including atheism, has those people that are going to look down upon those that are "ignorant of the truth" in their eyes.


1) Atheism isn't a religion it's a lack of religion (Don't worry, this is a common misunderstanding)
2) I've never met an atheist who believes those with opposing views should be tortured for eternity.

In my opinion, that's Christianity's biggest problem.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 12:53 AM
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In short I'd say it's because most Christians try to catch more flies with vinegar than with honey(and we all know how that goes).

Telling people that if they don't join your group they're going to burn in eternal hellfire isn't a great recruitment method; and those who don't join you will think of you as those weirdos who say their God loves you while at the same time condemning you to hell.

This method worked very well for Christianity historically because they actually backed it up; either with mortal threats, or(later on) with 'just' ostracism. Now that society has changed, and being Christian isn't a social prerequisite, the strategy is backfiring and outmoded.

Christianity could use a good PR man who understands that fear-mongering is an out of date tactic that only produces hatred, confusion, and mistrust in those you don't win over.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by Core90]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 03:12 AM
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Christianity.. and even hating Christianity is such a broad sweeping statement. But I feel a lot of issues can be placed at the feet of the Church in Rome, and the power hungry people who have used Christianity for their own power grabbing ends.

Just look at the history of the British Isles (including Ireland)... look up Pelagius, Pelagiusim and the British Isles at odds with the Church in Rome.. nearly 2,000 years later and Britain is still at odds (not violently) with the Church in Rome.

Did you know Britain sent 3 bishops to the council of Arles in 314.. Which even now is 300 years before the date the Catholic Church teaches that Christianity came to Britain.
en.wikipedia.org...

How about the Pope supporting the Norman invasion of Britain in 1066, the Anglo-Saxons were Christian (even had an Anglo-Saxon School in Rome) but Christianity was brought to them by the Britons, not the Church of Rome, hence King Alfreds laws were based on British Christian principles.. e.g. women could divorce and were entitled to 50% of everything the family owned... which all ended when the Normans invaded, and it took, what 800 years to reclaim those rights!

What about Henry the 8th, in his early days he took the papal bull to Ireland to convert them into good Catholics (they were already Christians) at the point of a sword and then later in life Henry breaks faith with the Church in Rome so he can get his leg over a certain Boylen girl and in the process creates the Church of England, issues over that one still arise to this day.

How about bloody Mary, close by where I live Catholics burnt to death 17 protestants for, what... wanting to read the bible in English, wow, isn't that a crime, the poor want to be able to read a bible they understand, if that so wrong? which is still remembered to this day by burning an effigy of the pope..

The pope was also behind the Catholic gunpowder plot to destroy the houses of parliament under King James..

I am sure the Protestants were as bad in dealing with rebeling Catholics..

All in all that is Christians killing Christians, and there are too many of these examples in the UK alone. which is not really Christian teaching now is it, and that is without expanding this to include converting non Christians or attacking non Christian nations.

Personally I think the question is, why do some sects within religion decide that killing another sect is good or right thing to do. Sunni/Shi'ite Catholic/Protestant etc...

Perhaps looking at power behind the decisions that drive the internal doctrines that lead to death and destruction might give you a clearer answer.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Originally posted by wylekat
reply to post by Republican08
 





Also, some of the muslims burned christians in tires to prove their point in the outrage of the cartoons.


In TIRES? What are these muslims thinking? Tires create a great deal of pollutants, and dont do an effective job. Bury the SOBs alive- at least there will be fertilizer for the plants.


Not buried, burned. Sorry for the mistranslation.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by TruthParadox

Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
But what people fail to see is that every religion, including atheism, has those people that are going to look down upon those that are "ignorant of the truth" in their eyes.


1) Atheism isn't a religion it's a lack of religion (Don't worry, this is a common misunderstanding)
2) I've never met an atheist who believes those with opposing views should be tortured for eternity.

In my opinion, that's Christianity's biggest problem.

Islam believes the torture for those with opposing views should happen on Earth. Thus hatred turns into terrorism.

One great source of hate is the Palestian issue. While the Hebrews got a homeland and borders, the Palestinians think that land should be theirs and much hatred grows from this dispute. Since Islam isn't pluralistic in accepting Christians and Jews this issue give them the right to hate. And of course that hate turns into terrorism.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 07:47 AM
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Huh? Nonononono.
*I* Said buried, you said burned. I was just advocating a diff method (and trying to be a smarty pants). Nothing wrong with the translation at all



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by JJay55

Islam believes the torture for those with opposing views should happen on Earth. Thus hatred turns into terrorism.

One great source of hate is the Palestian issue. While the Hebrews got a homeland and borders, the Palestinians think that land should be theirs and much hatred grows from this dispute. Since Islam isn't pluralistic in accepting Christians and Jews this issue give them the right to hate. And of course that hate turns into terrorism.


Qur'an 5:51 "Believers, take not Jews and Christians for your friends. They are but friends and protectors to each other."

Ayatollah Khomeini (1942):
“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 08:29 AM
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I'm suprised nobody specifically mentioned sex. No sex before marriage & masturbation is a sin too: what, are Christians trying to drive people insane? Maybe the idea is that people should marry very young? Except its well established that the young cannot fully grasp the consequences of their actions, so why should we expect them to be able to choose a life partner with whom they are compatible, especially since their hormones are raging?
Also, IME, I just 'click' sexually with some people, so we dont even have to like each other much to get off good style, but with others that despite being into each other, the sex is merely ok. Its a lottery, if, that is, you didn't check each other out before partnering up.
Maybe the idea isn't about making people obey such repressive strictures @all, but rather, knowing that most will break them, saddle them with guilt & thus a need for salvation (conveniently available from the church: just fill the collection plate)? In days past, there were good reasons to restrict who could copulate with whom, as children born outside a social contract established to provide for their care would be a burden on any given group, but these days, we have birth control! Surprise, surprise! Many Christian sects are against that too. The self same logic applies equally well to adultery.
Now I'm sure some are thinking that divorce is more common these days so I must be wrong. Except people change. Someone with whom we could enjoy life @ 1 time, will not necessarily always be compatible with us. We now have the option to move on. Trouble is, many people are still so saddled with guilt &/or neurosis that they cant be honest with themselves about what they want, let alone their partner or children, so rather than a well understood life transition, we see many a traumatic debacle.
Its also worth bearing in mind that human physiology is geared up for multiple partners, so why wouldn't Christianity be hated?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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Yes indeed! And importantly 57 Islamic countries carry on this law. The Quran and the government are not seperated.


[edit on 19-8-2009 by JJay55]



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 01:34 PM
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You're question strikes at the heart of the problem:
1) "Christians" don't even know their own religion. No human has the right to judge someone's eternal soul.
2) You're assuming that there is a true religion, and that Christianity is the one, therefore the many attempts to discredit it must be the "enemy" trying to sabatoge, thus legitmizing the "true" religion.
The topics of religion deal with questions of faith- belief in things with no evidence. Since there is no empirical evidence supporting any kind of faith, where do members of organized religion ( Christianity being the most popular, therefore the most attacked) get the right to insist that their views are right. By "insist" I mean all the various tactics employed by Christianity, as well as other religions throughout history: from killing non believers to simply shunning people who disagree. Dogmatism my biggest problem with Christianity. They don't know, can't know the absolute truth, so get off your high horse and love your neighbor the way your supposed savior allegedly told you.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Enjoy your "freedom" now, Europe as we know it will be gone in 50 years.

The superior lifestyle of the Secular Socialist will have resulted in a Europe depopulated of Europeans and overrun with Muslims.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by VinceP1974 reply to post by Bunken Drum
 
Enjoy your "freedom" now, Europe as we know it will be gone in 50 years. The superior lifestyle of the Secular Socialist will have resulted in a Europe depopulated of Europeans and overrun with Muslims.
Do you have any evidence to back that assertion?
Also, what prompted you to put "freedom" in quotation marks? Do we not have religious freedom in Europe, in your opinion, or is it sexual freedom we lack, or just freedom per se?
Please explain.
Do you think it likely that Islam will buck previous trends & its adherents will prove more resistant to the good life offered by small family size? If so, why?



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by Bunken Drum

Originally posted by VinceP1974 reply to post by Bunken Drum
 
Enjoy your "freedom" now, Europe as we know it will be gone in 50 years. The superior lifestyle of the Secular Socialist will have resulted in a Europe depopulated of Europeans and overrun with Muslims.
Do you have any evidence to back that assertion?
Also, what prompted you to put "freedom" in quotation marks? Do we not have religious freedom in Europe, in your opinion, or is it sexual freedom we lack, or just freedom per se?
Please explain.
Do you think it likely that Islam will buck previous trends & its adherents will prove more resistant to the good life offered by small family size? If so, why?


You never heard about the demographic crisis in Europe? It's amazing how you peolpe think you're so smart and yet you have no clue what's going on in the world.

How have you managed to avoid hearing about this? This has been a major public discussion all decade long.

Anyway here's one thing you can check out



Freedom is in quotes because everything he claimed that was liberating was leading to the annihilation of European culture.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 03:42 PM
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Simply because it is real. and I dont understand these people that dont believe in God. THey rather put their faith in a big bang and sccience which is always having to be done over because something doesnt completely add up. Have a open mind.



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by calstorm
There is more opposition to Christianity than any other religion.


I agree the comment about Muslims and Jews - remember the attacks on Muslim store owners after 9/11? I haven't seen anything like that - an organized violent attack on specifically Christian people - in America, at least.
But look at it this way; when was the last time we had an atheist president? How many senators, representatives, and governors, etc. are officially and openly atheist? If you try to run for public office in America as an open atheist, you get run out of town with pitchforks and torches. It's almost as bad as being Muslim or Pagan in this country, only worse, because you *gasp* don't believe in God at all!
And the most vocal opponents to atheists are Christians. Any other atheists here can remember times when Christians have obsessively tried to convert them. I don't get that treatment from non-Christians; they tend to understand, because the Christians have been trying to convert them too. If they weren't so darned persistent, they might be more likeable!



posted on Aug, 19 2009 @ 04:50 PM
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Because, no matter where I go, whether the corner store, the knocking at my front door (which comes AFTER the no soliciting sign), or from my response to "what religion are you?" when I reply with "I don't do religion", I get the Christian crap spewed at me.

A prime example of this occured just in the last hour, from the ATS Science and Technology forum here at ATS,

the point of this topic is to indeed to proselytize the way of Christ

If a man desires Christianity, he will go to a Christian church. The line about "go to all the world" does not work anymore - the whole damn world knows you are here, and most of that world is quite sick of it.

Don't misconstrue my angst towards Christians as a thought that I don't believe in something greater than I, as I do believe that I am here as a result of something outside humanity, and I do believe - as well as practice - spirituality. One dos not have to be religious to be spiritual. Hell, take the religion out of the human equation, and there would rarely be war.



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