Originally posted by Misfit

Originally posted by VinceP1974

You were told to HATE people? do you agree with him that US Soldiers are sent to war in the name of Christendom?

Yes I was, and yes I do. It was, afterall, a Christian Pres Bush that labeled this current fiasco a crsuade.

Originally posted by visible_villain
Secondly, there is a fundamental disconnect in the Christian bible itself. The old testament teaches us that God is a vengeful and terrifying One, not at all beyond totally obliterating those of his children who have diasappointed him ( re : Soddom, Gommorah with fire and brimstone, and indeed the Great Flood itself where He changed tactics and used water this time ), while the New Testament teaches us that God the Father is a loving god who enjoins his children ( that be us ) to emulate the triumphant and self-sacrificing example of Christ Jesus ...

Jer 31:34 “People will no longer need to teach their neighbors and relatives to know me. For all of them, from the least important to the most important, will know me,” says the Lord. “For I will forgive their sin and will no longer call to mind the wrong they have done.”

Jer 33:7 I will restore Judah and Israel and will rebuild them as they were in days of old. I will purify them from all the sin that they committed against me. I will forgive all their sins which they committed in rebelling against me.All the nations will hear about all the good things which I will do to them. This city will bring me fame, honor, and praise before them for the joy that I bring it. The nations will tremble in awe at all the peace and prosperity that I will provide for it.’

Jer 36:3 Perhaps when the people of Judah hear about all the disaster I intend to bring on them, they will all stop doing the evil things they have been doing. If they do, I will forgive their sins and the wicked things they have done.”

Jer 50:20 When that time comes, no guilt will be found in Israel. No sin will be found in Judah. For I will forgive those of them I have allowed to survive. I, the Lord, affirm it!’

Hosea 2:21 “At that time, I will willingly respond,” declares the Lord.

“I will respond to the sky, and the sky will respond to the ground; then the ground will respond to the grain, the new wine, and the olive oil; and they will respond to ‘God Plants’ (Jezreel)! Then I will plant her as my own in the land. I will have pity on ‘No Pity’ (Lo-Ruhamah). I will say to ‘Not My People’ (Lo-Ammi), ‘You are my people!’ And he will say, ‘You are my God!’”

Originally posted by VinceP1974
You probably misconstrued what you were taught based on your misconstruing of the use of the word crusade.

Originally posted by Misfit


There is no misconstruing crusade when spoken by a Christian hell-bent on going to war.

Originally posted by VinceP1974

Originally posted by Misfit


There is no misconstruing crusade when spoken by a Christian hell-bent on going to war.

Good thing you weren't around during D-Day you would have hated it.

Originally posted by VinceP1974

Originally posted by Violet Sky
No hatred here. Just not interested.

But you asked a general question, so here's a general answer.

One of the doctrines of Christianity is to 'spread the word'. Here in lies the irritation with many people. If we are secure in our own beliefs we do not want someone preaching at us. Anyone who gets in my face and tries to make me one of the flock just plain irritates me. I just want to be left alone and free to believe as my heart tells me.

So, basically, worship the way you want but stop trying to force others to the same. If Christians didn't have that whole 'spread the word' ideology, things would be great.

LOL. No one is forcing you to do anything. And if you were secure in what you believed in , it wouldn't bother you that someone was advertising something else.

I work in Downtown Chicago, I can't stand those idiot Greenpeace and The Greens and Amensty International volunteers passing out pamphlets and doing surveys , asking for money, etc.. . yet I would never in a million years besmearch them for their right to engage in such things.

In a Free Country people will try to influence their fellow man , as it should be.

You should be grateful you live in a country where this can happen and not in one where it is forbidden.

Originally posted by calstorm
Bear with me, this is only my second attempt at a thread. If there is already one like this i didn't find it.
There is more opposition to Christianity than any other religion. It is constantly the brunt of jokes on T.V. and other media sources. People go out of their way to prove Christianity wrong. There is also an anti-Christianity camp atheists can send their kids to to learn why the bible isn't real. It was on Dateline or 20/20 can't remember which.
Christianity is also one of the most distorted religions. It has been exploited for profit and personal agendas of hate and war.
Why not Buddhism or Paganism?
Lets say for discussions sake that there is one true religion that has any enemy being. Now what would this enemy do and how would he go about discrediting the truth of this so called religion?
Wouldn't he try to sow discord amongst the people, dived and conquer?
Wouldn't he use people claiming to belong to this religion to do horrible acts in the name of such religion to discredit it?
Now I am sure I will get plenty of replies like "THERE IS NO GOD!" or "Because you are all fools." But I hope to get some legitimate, and well thought out replies from people on both sides of the fence. I am also open to constructive criticism to help me improve on future threads.

Originally posted by Visiting ESB
Christianity is the largest religion in the world and therefore wields the most power. Also, I don't think (not having studied religion thoroughly) any other major religion other than Christianity and Islam threatens people with death and destruction if they do not convert, or eternal torment. Something about that doesn't create a peaceful, loving attidude towards the religion and it's no wonder people are hostile.