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What "people" would that be that you're lumping me in with? Perhaps you'd also quote me where I'm "think[ing] [I'm] so smart"?
Originally posted by VinceP1974It's amazing how you peolpe think you're so smart and yet you have no clue what's going on in the world.
Indeed there are plenty of sources, which is why I asked if the vid was repeating the same old scaremongering that most of those sources contain. I hardly asked for a "stenographer", a simple yes or no would have done. Oh well.
1 - I'm not your stenographer, if you can't watch video oh well. There are plenty of sources to get infomration about european demographic crisis.
"Should" was a bad choice of words on my part. What I meant to say was more along the lines of 'what exactly do you see as the problem with Muslim immigration?' Which stems from my assertion that the idea that Europe will be "overrun" by Muslims is incorrect. I personally worked out the figures for the UK in the thread I linked before & found that the scare story just didn't add up. Even so, I already knew the idea was balderdash since, FYI, the debate has been going on for a lot longer than 10yrs. I 1st became aware of it in the late 70s, when we were apparently being overrun by Muslims from Pakistan: strangely, it never happened. A corollary to my original mis-phrasing would also be, do you think that the projected doubling of Europe's Muslim population to around 20% has any bearing on why Christianity is so hated, even by non-Muslims?
2 - You asked me what I"m telling people to do. I'm not telling people to do anything.
Originally posted by Verum Astrum
Well this IS quite the divided thread isn't it?
Rather ironic considering Religion is one of the greatest tools used by TPTB to divide the masses. It instills fear into the people, encourages you to trust others to do the thinking for you and gives you rules to abide by.
Does this thread (and, I am sure there have been others similar to it) just verify that they have been successful?
Belief is one thing that everyone has the right to. It is a very personal issue.
Religion, on the other hand, is institutionalised belief, an organisation used for control. They even have rule books lol.
I think the hatred that the OP was talking about is backlash. Globally, people are becoming more aware, more questioning. Science has permeated the dark areas of what we refer to as religion and the resentment for being lied to and kept in the dark for millenia is bubbling to the top of the pot.
I often think it must be frustrating to have a religious disposition and live in today's times with the kind of laws we have now. eg; 'love thy neighbour' whilst the Gov encourages people to dob them in for breaches of the law....
Just my two cents worth, which I guess is worthless as I live in Australia where we abolished the two cent coin years ago!
Peace, VA
Originally posted by KRISKALI777
reply to post by calstorm
I wouldn't put Christianity to be the only 'hated' religion out there.
I say in this capacity it would come close to judaism and islam.
Anyway why is Christianity hated:
1) Its intolerent, just as much as Judaism and islam.
2) Its followers are mostly hypocrites: Hypocracy goes right to its core.
3) its followers have so many versions and rationalizations to explain away gobble-de-gook that has no rational explaination.
Id also say have a long look at history also.
Originally posted by Bunken Drum
Indeed there are plenty of sources, which is why I asked if the vid was repeating the same old scaremongering that most of those sources contain. I hardly asked for a "stenographer", a simple yes or no would have done. Oh well.
Originally posted by MagnumOverDrive
It seems to me any body who can go along lying ,cheating and
stealing for whatever reason then confess their sins, due their
pennance and be forgiven as often as necessary ,really don't
have the incentive to live anything but an empty,hateful,
bigoted life
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Originally posted by Verum Astrum
Well this IS quite the divided thread isn't it?
Rather ironic considering Religion is one of the greatest tools used by TPTB to divide the masses. It instills fear into the people, encourages you to trust others to do the thinking for you and gives you rules to abide by.
Does this thread (and, I am sure there have been others similar to it) just verify that they have been successful?
Belief is one thing that everyone has the right to. It is a very personal issue.
Religion, on the other hand, is institutionalised belief, an organisation used for control. They even have rule books lol.
I think the hatred that the OP was talking about is backlash. Globally, people are becoming more aware, more questioning. Science has permeated the dark areas of what we refer to as religion and the resentment for being lied to and kept in the dark for millenia is bubbling to the top of the pot.
I often think it must be frustrating to have a religious disposition and live in today's times with the kind of laws we have now. eg; 'love thy neighbour' whilst the Gov encourages people to dob them in for breaches of the law....
Just my two cents worth, which I guess is worthless as I live in Australia where we abolished the two cent coin years ago!
Peace, VA
I see the anti-religion movement as being incredibly shallow and superficial.
For one that side seems to never address the hundreds of millions that were slaughtered in the name of secular collectivism. Why no examination as to why that particular framework has led to so much disaster on such a scale?
Secondly, there is a very ignorant analysis that every religion is the same. All one need to do is compare Europe to the Middle East and you will see the significance of how different religions mold a society in specific ways.
And last, using Europe again... look at what happens when people reject their religion and adopt a fanciful notion of "Multiculturalism" whereby alledged Racism is the new Blasphemy.
And how under the banner, millions of people with a hostile religiously-informed culture have been allowed to form enclaves in many European capitals, living off the State.
Does the Atheist Multiculti Left show any determination to fight against their future cultural annihilation? No they seem to welcome it.
And when other people in Europe do rise up to speak against this therat, or have rallies or demostrations, you will find the Euro-Left counter-protests , often with extreme violence.
So you have a group of people who say that all religion is dangerous. And yet when other people protest the dangers of Islam in their countries, the first group of people protect Islam.
That is the attitude I see very frequently and it makes no sense to me... which is why I am very skepitical of the boasts of people who on the one hand think a Christian Theocracy is right around the corner in the USA and yet on the other mock the notion that there is a global jihad going on right now.