Originally posted by VitalOverdose
Now i do think your grasping at straws.
That balloon was heavy before the mini whirlwind dragged it upwards. Otherwise it wouldnt have been up that high. Balloons dont suddenly loose air
pressure like that unless they have been punctured.
Not at all.
What I've shown you so far is that:
a) the object does not have the general physical characteristics of a ballon.
On the negative image, it is evident that the object is square, highly reflective or perhaps even emitting light, it has also something resembling
flaps on each side (although I have no idea of what they are). It looks more like a kite than a balloon to me, thereby not saying that it is a kite.
There's no sign of a string or weight below the object, which is more or less the only thing that could stabilize it if it was a lighter than air
b) The object does not behave like a lighter than air ballon.
It floats through the air, yes. But, first it descends, seems to level out, only to rise back up again. Once again, what kind of a balloon does that?
As far as I know, only hot air balloons can do that. You talk about a deflating balloon, then a "whirlwind" dragging it upwards (because it's the
only thing you can think of that would explain its behavior),
I don't see any sign of whirlwinds. I see the leaves moving gently, like if there was a breeze, that's all. That whirlwind would have to be very
consistent, because the object keeps rising steadily, in an even pace. Shouldn't the object, if it was deflating, slowly change appearence?
Shouldn't that whirlwind create some turbulence, and shouldn't that turbulence toss the object around a bit, destabilizing it, IF it was a deflating
balloon floating through the air? We follow the object for approximately 3 minutes, and not once during these three minutes does the object rotate in
any other way than around its own axis. It is never caught by a side wind, never wobbles, never changes speed. Just a slow, steady movement. Reason
tells me that only a heavy object would stay steady in a whirlwind, while a light object would be tossed around. Therefore, it would have to be filled
with helium or any lighter than air gas, in order to rise... but then it would not descend first. That's not proper physics.
c) I've posted supplementary videos with objects that - IMO - closely resembles this object and could be the same (type of) object, and some of them
are clearly not balloons.
Answer each and one of these points with sound, logic reasoning, and you might actually impress me.
Originally posted by VitalOverdose
If its a UFO why doesnt it do anything amazing? Its a craft that can travel faster than light but floats abbout like a balloon when it gets here
You're doing the mistake that the vast majority of debunkers do,
First of all, a UFO is by definition a Unidentified Flying Object, nothing else. We don't know anything about its making, origin or purpose,
therefore we cannot speculate on what it should do.
You automatically assume that a UFO means extra-terrestial craft, which is your mistake. It could be Santa testing a new type of sled, or a bunch of
canaries flying with the cage on their backs.
Whatever makes more sense.
And with the reasoning that the simplest answer is always right, you exclude the possibility that it could be 'other-worldy', it can be anything but
it can't be that.
In 1942, the Los Angeles Air Defense started shooting at what they first identified as Japanese bombers, but after investigation the reason for the
incident was officially classified as "unknown". They just couldn't figure out what it was, which was not a shame at the time.
Had that incident happened during the 50's or the 60's, the logical assumption would have been that it was Soviet spy planes, and had it happened
today then maybe several airliners hijacked by Muslim terrorists.
What is logical is always relative to time and place, and to concept of thinking.
Therefore, the wise man said, exclude no options or possibilities from the start, then work yourself towards a logical assumption.
I don't see a balloon, I see a traveling vessel of some sorts. I could be wrong, but that's what it seems like.
Then again, it could be CGI.
[edit on 19-8-2009 by Heliocentric]