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The Alcohol Conspiracy?

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posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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I drink gallons of coffee , and smoke cigareetes, I have not had alcohal in any form since aug 1 of 1997 at 2am .


that said... no where in the constitution is the activity of regulation of opium , grass , codine , cocain ... or for that matter abortion and universal medical care .

frankly speaking ... washington D.C. needs to read the 9th and 10th amendment ... and shut down about 70% to 80% of their current activitys ....


they need to read and stop voting untill they have some tiny clue what they are doing ....

( frankly , 99 of 100 people here have a better idea what goverment is up to , than 1 guy of 100 congressmen...

and we do this on our own time....

those guys... its their job! )

god makes rivers flow
goverment dam them




posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by USER

I have to wonder how many people who are on here realise the insiduos power of alcohol the old "I haven't got a problem" syndrome.

Many people convince themselves that drinking is ok as long as it is moderate - think of the high bottom drunk... People who can function quite normally and don't realise they have a problem.


That is a demon which has to be battled personally, either one is in denial or one accepts it as it is, being a drunk. But on your basic observation of the thing, might as well be frank with it and label France as a bunch of drunks for most of the people I have met there will drink wine with their meal everyday. It is moderate but on what you wrote, it still makes them "high bottom drunks"

I do not know my friend but by your arguments, it seems to me that you might have a personal problem with the substance, if it is the case and you feel it is interfering with your life, seek help and then take it "One day at a time"



With all of the alcohol related deaths per annum I'm surprised that it is still legal...



Living will cause you to die. What type of death are we talking about? Drinking and driving? Slowly pickling one's liver to the point of cirrosis? Please do elaborate about those "deaths per annum" for your statement is a bit vague.



...So on that basis I would say that it probably IS a conspiracy.


The only conspiracy I see here is when a man try to get a woman drunk at a bar/party/name the occasion, to get in a woman's pant. Past this, I fail to see something that has been around more than 3 thousand years as a conspiracy.



It is allowed by the powers that be for tax reasons for sure but I'm almost convinced of my original points.

I'm not saying don't drink - I drink.


Everything is taxed, food is taxed, soda pop are taxed, chewing gum, chips, cans of soup...


What I'm saying is maybe people should think about this lot the next time they're taking a sip - is it really REALLY out of choice or is there a certain ammount of compulsion - It hides itself really well.


Everything is always by choice, either you choose to or you do not choose to drink that beer. Compulsion? No, addiction, YES.


And maybe, just maybe, you're doing the PTB's jobs for them.


Think again



I do not know about you, your compulsion toward alcohol or how much you consume when you drink. What I do know is that when you start seeing alcohol as a conspiracy, I highly suggest seeking outside help for you might be projecting your anxieties.

Alcohol will dumb you if you drink too much, it is not like the PTB/gov are hiding that fact saying otherwise. Everyone who drinks will tell you the same, alcohol just slows you down.

I will tell why your conspiracy theory against alcohol does not "hold water". If it truly was the all powerful PTB goal, do you think they would allow dry counties in the United States?

And I will ask you OP, do you really think that so many stated would be allowed to have have dry counties if the PTB wanted to have all of us dumbed down and pacified by alcohol?

States who have dry counties

Alabama
Alaska
Arkansas (by far the driest!)
Connecticut
Florida
Georgia
Illinois
Kansas
Kentucky
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Jersey
New York
North Carolina
Ohio
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Tennessee
Texas
Wisconsin

Canada have by far more strict rules when it comes to the sales of Alcohol... where you can only get your beer/alcohol at liquor store. Quebec is still the exception where it is found at supermarkets and corner stores which delivers to your house/apartment any type of beer your heart desires. YAY!



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Now_Then


Those isotonic sports drinks are a good quick fix as well - also a little trendier for the last drink of the night in front of your mates... They are a little pricey tho.

My final fix is usually a fried egg sandwich, but frying food after drinking is not the safest thing in the world.



Never heard of those, will have to research it for what I have read about most sports drinks such as gatorade and the likes is that they are not recommended at all to rehydrate your body. I just sticks with a big bottle of water in which case, I still get up in the middle of the night to refill it so much my body is thirsting for it. And of course, a nice 1500 mg of vitamin C



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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Dammit!!!!

All this talk, now I want a G&T or a Bloody Mary, but it's Sunday and the stores are closed.

Oh, wait --- Sunday Brunch! But then, have to put on clothes, etc. pay through the nose to eat from buffet where people sneeze and cough ...

Guess I'll just make another pot of coffee and turn on the idiot box.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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It keeps us sedated that is for sure. I always wondered why (besides money) alcohol is legal esp with how bad it is for you. Dont get me wrong I enjoy my jager bombs but I like many feel like crap later that night and the next day. With all the diseases caused due to drinking, deaths and everything else its a wonder its legal and yet people are so worried about cigarettes. I guess it is a great way to control the masses. Get em drunk, they wont remember!



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by miss_silver
 


Dammit!!!!

All this talk, now I want a G&T or a Bloody Mary, but it's Sunday and the stores are closed.

Oh, wait --- Sunday Brunch! But then, have to put on clothes, etc. pay through the nose to eat from buffet where people sneeze and cough ...

Guess I'll just make another pot of coffee and turn on the idiot box.



Ouch!

Well, there is part 3 of the doco, the Corporation on FSTV right now if you have dishnet... Which states do yo live in for the blue law to be that strong? Dang, here in southern Missouri, you can get the stuff till midnight on Sundays!

Enjoy your coffee!


I am not a great fans of buffets either...



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 10:59 AM
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Alcohol sure is a neat little way of tricking you into believing that you have friends because your at the pub, and it just so happens that everyone else is aswell. It fools you into thinking your not socialising when your not there and its easily addictive to become entrapped in the "I'll have just one more before the pub closes" thought.
I havent had a drink for about a week and a half now, sticking strictly to clear water and coke as I dont want to fall into that habit of becoming a "happy drunk."



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 11:14 AM
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Alcohol is no way near as deadly as it use to be when people's grandparents were dying of Alcohol poisoning. Folks back in the day were even getting ill eating pork, the "dirty" meat. Those days are over.

Like someone mentioned in a post earlier, way before the 1960's when hippies embraced drugs, they were doing coke ,opium, weed and drinking like it was no tomorrow and it was excepted in society. Prostitution was also everywhere, so your died relatives had a real good time


What happened was a black man got "blamed" for murdering a white prostitute in New Orleans and they said he was under the "evil" influence of coc aine. This caused a public outcry against blacks and coc aine, it soon become unpopular and illegal.

Prohibition was introduced in the same manner, the bible thumpers determined that drinking caused too much sin. Making alcohol illegal backfired, organized crime flourished, bootleggers sprouted up everywhere, sinning took on a second life and government corruption ran rampant.

During that period bad batches of home brewed alcohol became publicly available and that's when our grandparents started getting the toxicity and eventually dying.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 11:17 AM
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Originally posted by Republican08
Ha, my winding down drinks are dwindling.


I doubt there is a conspiracy, they tried to prohibit it before (thanks to the religious
)

It just made matters much worse.

I couldn't of tried hard enough to find a conspiracy in it.

Alcohol I like, because it allows me to stay in a good though, well at least in my head
although word association and add are side effects
I still like it because it's a night cap for me... till I find a way to get ambien!


Word association is a side effect? Could you elaborate?




posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by townio
from some documentaries I have seen, it seems that alcohol is not illegal because it was the drug of choice for white people. Cocaine was popular among black people, marijuana among Mexicans, and opium among asians. As a first step they outlawed everything including alcohol (prohibition). Later they made alcohol legal again but kept the other drugs illegal. It is important to note that before the 30s, coc aine and opium was found in many medications. Bayer developped aspirin specifically because its opium based syrup was addictive and it was problematic.
Ultimately, alcohol is legal because it has no therapeutic use. Other drugs were outlawed so that manufactured and copyrighted substitutes could be developped, and so that the pharmaceutical industry could become what it is today. Modern medicines are just as addictive as the natural ones but you have to pay the labs that develop them industrially whereas you don't have to pay nature to grow plants. It's all a question of big bucks.


Actually Alcohol does have therapeutic uses. My lineage is Northern European, where they have been drinking beer for thousands of years. Every male in my family who was a teetotaler died of clots. Those who drank died of many different things, but not as early, and not of clots.



posted on Aug, 16 2009 @ 11:24 AM
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Word association is a side effect?




Homer Simpson: Beer Quotes

"Homer no function beer well without."


See??



posted on Aug, 18 2009 @ 05:56 PM
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I'm not a heavy drinker, nor do I have a problem with it.

The deaths I talk about are many fold, you listed some of them yourself.

Coming from England, I'm not sure what a dry county is.

I've just started reading "silent weapons for quiet wars" ( find it on www.scribd.com ).

It talks about things like alcohol being used against the public and much more.

If you've not read it you may learn something.



[edit on 18-8-2009 by USER]



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:26 PM
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Originally posted by USER
reply to post by miss_silver
 


I'm not a heavy drinker, nor do I have a problem with it.

The deaths I talk about are many fold, you listed some of them yourself.

Coming from England, I'm not sure what a dry county is.

I've just started reading "silent weapons for quiet wars" ( find it on www.scribd.com ).

It talks about things like alcohol being used against the public and much more.

If you've not read it you may learn something.



[edit on 18-8-2009 by USER]



Sorry USER, I assumed that you were residing within the United States.


A dry county is, a county or counties within a state or states that do not sell any alcohol what so ever. Think that you can say that a county here = a township in your neck of the woods


Thanks for the article link, will make sure to come around and read it... still have to finish that SK book that is past due by one month at the municipal library



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:30 PM
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Don't think I'm taking the mick, but what's an SK book?

...?




posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by USER
reply to post by miss_silver
 


Don't think I'm taking the mick, but what's an SK book?

...?




Stephen King latest short stories titled, Just After Sunset.

Meh, think that I will return it half read after all considering I am just looking at it instead of reading it...



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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Yes send it back


And read "silent weapons for quiet wars" and "behold a pale horse".

My best friend showed them me.

Harrowing.




posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 07:55 PM
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Nice post User, I feel the same on many levels. One thing though, part of my reason for consumption nearly every night is to not care about work,.. sounds a bit absurd I know, however at this company, where I get no support from my management staffing on things like watching attendance and safety. I put myself in the hospital twice when I wasn't drinking due to stress in the work place. So in this case, evening alcohol affect for me the next day keeps me from getting worked up. So why not quit? .. at a job that allows me to come and go as I please, and I am a seriously important cog, so why not put up with it till the next cush comes along. Anyway,.. hard to say if it is allowed to dumb us down. though you never hear of people gettin killed in car crashes due to marijuana,.. do ya?..



posted on Aug, 20 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Why does it have to be a conspiracy?
People have consumed alcohol for many thousands of years .
Look at how many of us there are!
I'm not seeing any shortage of people around.
I would be willing to wager alot of people posting here were concieved because of alcohol.
Maybe even married too!
And divorced.



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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Why does it have to be a conspiracy?

It probably doesn't have to be, but it probably is.

Use some proper critical thinking.

Look at the next bloke along in the queue at the bottleshop...

Does he look like he's buying a drink to go home and have a good time, by himself....

...or does he look like he's going home to self medicate and get smashed to forget the rest of the cr*p in his life so he can wake up tomorrow and feel numb -and carry on like a drone.

Alcohol may NEVER be leaving your system if you're drinking often enough and that doesn't mean daily...

so maybe it's being allowed because of what it "does" to people...



posted on Aug, 23 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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I personally don't judge people by how they look. If however I knew him or her personally i would feel obligated to diplomatically find
out their situation and try to see if there were underlying issues that needed to be dealt with . That is what family and friends are for. I will say it is a delicate subject and
I know first hand people can get real defensive about their drinking habits.




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